Holton-Arns and Brown

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Anonymous wrote:They haven’t had anyone admitted to Yale in the past two years. I think Yale may not favor Holton applicants. They perform reasonably well with UPenn, Columbia, Dartmouth, Cornell, and even Princeton. However, Harvard and Yale acceptances are rare. Brown admissions are notably absent.

There is at least 1 Harvard acceptance every year. This year, the girl chose to go to another school. Two girls went to Yale from the 2023 class.

p.s. The only Ivy that doesn’t accept Holton girls (apart from the occasional athlete) is Brown.

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Anonymous wrote:Gotta love the sense of entitlement. It's not like other Ivy League schools are banging down Holton's doors for students. Barely a handful of grads are admitted to HYSPM per year.

Like most if not all of the top area privates, the go to schools at Holton are the usual suspects: Tulane, USC, Wash U, Emory, Northeastern, Chicago, etc. But these schools routinely admit top public school grads from the DMV as well. The college admissions advantage gained from DC privates over publics is a thing of the past.

The top 10% kids at Holton get into Ivy + schools. The next top 10% into Northwester, Wash U and such. Holton does very well on the college admission front.

Yea, maybe, but only 10 enrolled at Harvard, Yale or Princeton in the last five years, only two at Stanford, and none at MIT. Take out Penn and Duke and meh - not much there.

Wrong on MIT. And this whole thread is ridiculous. Add in Columbia, Penn, and Dartmouth and you have a very different picture anyway.

I can only go on the school’s own profile where it reported no MIT enrollees for 2022 to 2025.

Paying 60k a year for a 10 percent chance of Ivy + admissions doesn’t seem that smart to me.

And when you consider that far more then 10% of the parents went to Ivy+ schools, then you realize that money only gets you so far.

It's all about---return to the mean.

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Anonymous wrote:They haven’t had anyone admitted to Yale in the past two years. I think Yale may not favor Holton applicants. They perform reasonably well with UPenn, Columbia, Dartmouth, Cornell, and even Princeton. However, Harvard and Yale acceptances are rare. Brown admissions are notably absent.

There is at least 1 Harvard acceptance every year. This year, the girl chose to go to another school. Two girls went to Yale from the 2023 class.

Yeah and they were both URM. Basically you have to be valedictorian, URM, or recruited athlete to get into HYP from Holton. The one Brown admit a few years ago was a recruited athlete. There was also a recruited athlete that went to MIT a few years ago.
Two girls applied to Brown ED this past year but did not get in. Both had excellent options in RD, including higher ranked ivies. As far as I know, no one got into Brown RD and as of graduation no one was attending Brown.
Don’t get me wrong — plenty of kids go to great schools. But you have to look at data keeping things like recruited athlete and URM in mind especially when you see admits with lower stats ( there were a lot of low stat URMs admitted to ivies and other top schools this year). Also a lot of lower stat connected kids admitted to places like Vanderbilt and Dartmouth.

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How do you know these students had lower stats, or that connections rather than merit got them into Vanderbilt and Dartmouth? Do you work for the school?

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Anonymous wrote:How do you know these students had lower stats, or that connections rather than merit got them into Vanderbilt and Dartmouth? Do you work for the school?

Well it’s public who is the in the first and second decile (kids in first get cum laude end of junior year and kids in second get it end of senior year) so that helps. And the kids know who takes honors clssses and who doesn’t. Might not know exactly where a kid falls, but you know if a kid is in the top 20% or not.
There were a number of URM and connected kids not in the top 20% who got into schools like Columbia, Cornell, Penn, Dartmouth, and Vanderbilt.

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were the Dartmouth kids connected? And what do you mean by connected?

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It is so wrong to publicly talk about kids that are easily identifiable! Be a better human.

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Why does Brown hate Holton?

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Anonymous wrote:It is so wrong to publicly talk about kids that are easily identifiable! Be a better human.

Totally agree. It is so insulting to URMs to think that is the reason they get into top Universities.

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I am not a fan of lowering standards for athletes. FWIW, my Brown student’s roommate is an athlete and closet friend, two different sports in hard majors. Both absolutely have the chops, and frankly don’t know how one of the premed does all they do on top of their sport.

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Anonymous wrote:They haven’t had anyone admitted to Yale in the past two years. I think Yale may not favor Holton applicants. They perform reasonably well with UPenn, Columbia, Dartmouth, Cornell, and even Princeton. However, Harvard and Yale acceptances are rare. Brown admissions are notably absent.

There is at least 1 Harvard acceptance every year. This year, the girl chose to go to another school. Two girls went to Yale from the 2023 class.

Yeah and they were both URM. Basically you have to be valedictorian, URM, or recruited athlete to get into HYP from Holton. The one Brown admit a few years ago was a recruited athlete. There was also a recruited athlete that went to MIT a few years ago.
Two girls applied to Brown ED this past year but did not get in. Both had excellent options in RD, including higher ranked ivies. As far as I know, no one got into Brown RD and as of graduation no one was attending Brown.
Don’t get me wrong — plenty of kids go to great schools. But you have to look at data keeping things like recruited athlete and URM in mind especially when you see admits with lower stats ( there were a lot of low stat URMs admitted to ivies and other top schools this year). Also a lot of lower stat connected kids admitted to places like Vanderbilt and Dartmouth.

Well, clearly the school administration or a couple of families really messed things up for admissions to Brown for students from HA.

It'd be useful for the school to figure that out. And be up front about it. Whether it's families skipping out on ED contracts or something else. There are a lot of HA families that would like Brown to be an option.

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Anonymous wrote:How do you know these students had lower stats, or that connections rather than merit got them into Vanderbilt and Dartmouth? Do you work for the school?

Well it’s public who is the in the first and second decile (kids in first get cum laude end of junior year and kids in second get it end of senior year) so that helps. And the kids know who takes honors clssses and who doesn’t. Might not know exactly where a kid falls, but you know if a kid is in the top 20% or not.
There were a number of URM and connected kids not in the top 20% who got into schools like Columbia, Cornell, Penn, Dartmouth, and Vanderbilt.

Sure, and the kids that got in are great students.

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Anonymous wrote:I think my daughter told me that someone is going from Holton to Brown this year. Reminder that Instagram is not a comprehensive listing.

My daughter (a HA student) claims that a prior HA student broke an ED contract with Brown a few years ago, and thus they are blackballed, but that seems like a student rumor to me.

This isn't true! nobody from HAS 25 is going to Brown this year. The college counselors swear up and down that there's no blacklist and they "just haven't sent the right student yet". I asked the head counselor myself this year when we were considering Brown RD.

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Anonymous wrote:were the Dartmouth kids connected? And what do you mean by connected?

Connected refers to legacy status, university connections, or other privilege in the application process, such as the ability to make a large donation that affects your decision.

Neither of the 3 were connected. Not legacies.

I am not sure why these parents think it is OK to make disparaging statements about easily identifiable students. My daughter is a rising Senior at Holton, and she has observed all 3 to be hardworking students who take the most rigorous classes. While not all 3 were inducted into Cum Laude (I attended the ceremony), the third one was a National Merit finalist as announced by the school. So, all of them were smart. I think it is gross to imply that students not considered "top of the class" must have been connected to gain admission to such selective colleges... there are so many other factors that go into an application!

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Anonymous wrote:They haven’t had anyone admitted to Yale in the past two years. I think Yale may not favor Holton applicants. They perform reasonably well with UPenn, Columbia, Dartmouth, Cornell, and even Princeton. However, Harvard and Yale acceptances are rare. Brown admissions are notably absent.

One student was admitted into Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Penn this year, among other top schools. 100% deserving. Usually, 1 offer is made to Holton from Harvard every year. In the past, as many as 3 Yale offers in one year, to my knowledge.