Service Academy admissions for a recruited athlete. Anyone btdt?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Sports at the academies are interesting because you can use it as an advantage to get in (still need to be a really good applicant) and then can opt to not play at all. Since everyone goes for free- there is no change in your tuition.


“He is a quitter who worked the system” is exactly the reputation you want to have at a military academy and in the military after you graduate.


Op. Don’t lots of kids do this who are recruited for sports? The grad finish rate in many sports is fairly low. My dc has no plans whatsoever to quit and isn’t using his sport as an entry hook, but honestly your sentiment seems a little out of whack. Lots of people quit sports… I mean only a tiny fraction go pro, so it’s going to happen sooner or later. I can’t imagine they are all branded losers
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sports at the academies are interesting because you can use it as an advantage to get in (still need to be a really good applicant) and then can opt to not play at all. Since everyone goes for free- there is no change in your tuition.


Interesting. I didn’t know that. Dc really wants to play so dropping it is not in his head at all, but that’s good to know.

I’m trying to figure out what these coaches mean and if an admission will be as easy as they’re implying.


If it’s a division 1 sport the coach can get you in, as long as you meet the standard as a moderately decent student. I have family members that played d1 at navy.


How did they like Navy? Where are they now?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Although the admissions officer for recruited athletes can help a bit, there are not free passes on nominations for every athlete at a SA. Our area is the hardest to get nominations, especially Virginia district 11. And your kid will have to turn down good offers from other places while they wait in that uncertainty. That's the hardest part in my opinion.


Recruited athletes are given nominations from other areas that don't use all of theirs. A kid from VA can use one from places like SD or UT. The nomination for a recruited athlete is actually the easiest part of the application


SOME recruited athletes can get this. Not all. And DOD could end it at any time.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sports at the academies are interesting because you can use it as an advantage to get in (still need to be a really good applicant) and then can opt to not play at all. Since everyone goes for free- there is no change in your tuition.


Interesting. I didn’t know that. Dc really wants to play so dropping it is not in his head at all, but that’s good to know.

I’m trying to figure out what these coaches mean and if an admission will be as easy as they’re implying.


If it’s a division 1 sport the coach can get you in, as long as you meet the standard as a moderately decent student. I have family members that played d1 at navy.


How did they like Navy? Where are they now?


Graduated after playing for 4 years (didn’t quit). Both did 7 years active duty, got out, and are now at the director level for private companies. One in sales one in hr. They say they enjoyed Annapolis, but don’t know what big state is like.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although the admissions officer for recruited athletes can help a bit, there are not free passes on nominations for every athlete at a SA. Our area is the hardest to get nominations, especially Virginia district 11. And your kid will have to turn down good offers from other places while they wait in that uncertainty. That's the hardest part in my opinion.


Recruited athletes are given nominations from other areas that don't use all of theirs. A kid from VA can use one from places like SD or UT. The nomination for a recruited athlete is actually the easiest part of the application


SOME recruited athletes can get this. Not all. And DOD could end it at any time.


I always wonder about people like you, who love to jump in and post with a nasty negative tone. Are you posting from a dingy dark basement? A mental institution?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although the admissions officer for recruited athletes can help a bit, there are not free passes on nominations for every athlete at a SA. Our area is the hardest to get nominations, especially Virginia district 11. And your kid will have to turn down good offers from other places while they wait in that uncertainty. That's the hardest part in my opinion.


Recruited athletes are given nominations from other areas that don't use all of theirs. A kid from VA can use one from places like SD or UT. The nomination for a recruited athlete is actually the easiest part of the application


SOME recruited athletes can get this. Not all. And DOD could end it at any time.


I always wonder about people like you, who love to jump in and post with a nasty negative tone. Are you posting from a dingy dark basement? A mental institution?


Nope, I am posting on good faith not wanting anyone to have unrealistic expectations. Recruited athletes need to put in the work of seeking a nomination and need to take it seriously. It is a stressful time for cadet candidates.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although the admissions officer for recruited athletes can help a bit, there are not free passes on nominations for every athlete at a SA. Our area is the hardest to get nominations, especially Virginia district 11. And your kid will have to turn down good offers from other places while they wait in that uncertainty. That's the hardest part in my opinion.


Recruited athletes are given nominations from other areas that don't use all of theirs. A kid from VA can use one from places like SD or UT. The nomination for a recruited athlete is actually the easiest part of the application


SOME recruited athletes can get this. Not all. And DOD could end it at any time.


I always wonder about people like you, who love to jump in and post with a nasty negative tone. Are you posting from a dingy dark basement? A mental institution?


Nope, I am posting on good faith not wanting anyone to have unrealistic expectations. Recruited athletes need to put in the work of seeking a nomination and need to take it seriously. It is a stressful time for cadet candidates.



Eh, I doubt your intent is as magnanimous as you claim. Not even close. And news flash, any teen focused and dedicated enough to be recruited for a D1 sport at an academy is really not likely someone who ‘doesn’t take things seriously’.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although the admissions officer for recruited athletes can help a bit, there are not free passes on nominations for every athlete at a SA. Our area is the hardest to get nominations, especially Virginia district 11. And your kid will have to turn down good offers from other places while they wait in that uncertainty. That's the hardest part in my opinion.


Recruited athletes are given nominations from other areas that don't use all of theirs. A kid from VA can use one from places like SD or UT. The nomination for a recruited athlete is actually the easiest part of the application


SOME recruited athletes can get this. Not all. And DOD could end it at any time.


I always wonder about people like you, who love to jump in and post with a nasty negative tone. Are you posting from a dingy dark basement? A mental institution?


Nope, I am posting on good faith not wanting anyone to have unrealistic expectations. Recruited athletes need to put in the work of seeking a nomination and need to take it seriously. It is a stressful time for cadet candidates.



Eh, I doubt your intent is as magnanimous as you claim. Not even close. And news flash, any teen focused and dedicated enough to be recruited for a D1 sport at an academy is really not likely someone who ‘doesn’t take things seriously’.



Saying that the nomination is the easiest part, and all athletes can/will get one automatically is not true. Some recruited athletes without noms get sent to the prep school and if that's not okay with your student, that's a significant stressor.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although the admissions officer for recruited athletes can help a bit, there are not free passes on nominations for every athlete at a SA. Our area is the hardest to get nominations, especially Virginia district 11. And your kid will have to turn down good offers from other places while they wait in that uncertainty. That's the hardest part in my opinion.


Recruited athletes are given nominations from other areas that don't use all of theirs. A kid from VA can use one from places like SD or UT. The nomination for a recruited athlete is actually the easiest part of the application


SOME recruited athletes can get this. Not all. And DOD could end it at any time.


I always wonder about people like you, who love to jump in and post with a nasty negative tone. Are you posting from a dingy dark basement? A mental institution?


Nope, I am posting on good faith not wanting anyone to have unrealistic expectations. Recruited athletes need to put in the work of seeking a nomination and need to take it seriously. It is a stressful time for cadet candidates.


^^ Oh to add, if you really have the academy experience you want to claim you do by posting on this thread, you’d know how much interaction and guidance there is from ALO, coaches etc. IME, if they want a kid, they are all over them to help with this process. Pretty sure their knowledge is more current than yours…
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Although the admissions officer for recruited athletes can help a bit, there are not free passes on nominations for every athlete at a SA. Our area is the hardest to get nominations, especially Virginia district 11. And your kid will have to turn down good offers from other places while they wait in that uncertainty. That's the hardest part in my opinion.


Recruited athletes are given nominations from other areas that don't use all of theirs. A kid from VA can use one from places like SD or UT. The nomination for a recruited athlete is actually the easiest part of the application


SOME recruited athletes can get this. Not all. And DOD could end it at any time.


I always wonder about people like you, who love to jump in and post with a nasty negative tone. Are you posting from a dingy dark basement? A mental institution?


Nope, I am posting on good faith not wanting anyone to have unrealistic expectations. Recruited athletes need to put in the work of seeking a nomination and need to take it seriously. It is a stressful time for cadet candidates.


^^ Oh to add, if you really have the academy experience you want to claim you do by posting on this thread, you’d know how much interaction and guidance there is from ALO, coaches etc. IME, if they want a kid, they are all over them to help with this process. Pretty sure their knowledge is more current than yours…


Plenty of contact, plenty of encouragement-- no 100% guarantees
Anonymous
Recruited athletes still have to pass the medical. Lot’s of seemingly small things will get you bounced out of the process. Sone can get waivers, but be aware of some of the common things that will get a medical decline.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Any interest from other D1 or D2 schools?


Op here. Some, yes. A good amount from D2 who seem very quick to offer scholarship money. A very little from D1 other than SA (good d1 would be the top choice, but it’s unlikely). And a decent amount from D3 academic schools. Dc will never be a professional athlete but wants to continue with the sport in college.

Which D2s, if you don't mind? Sounds similar to my DC, but no D2 schools offering $. Seems to all be D1s like SAs and Ivies and then academic D3s -- with the D3s requiring 34+/1500+. I would be interested in hearing about a competitive academic D2 that offered scholarhip money.


What good academic d2 are there?

Would also like to know this, especially those that offer $.


NP here, my kid had Colorado School of Mines on his list for engineering. Mines is D2 and good academically although not elite.
Anonymous
Don’t be fooled by a nice email from a coach. It is still hard for a recruited athlete to get into the academy and u to me they have to be able to do the school work to stay. It is not an easy college experience
Anonymous
OP, the best thing your kid can do is a recruiting visit. He'll get to stay with a current player, attend classes, and live a day in the life of a mid/cadet. Tell him to ask as many questions as possible while there. He should find out fairly quickly if it's the right fit for him.
Anonymous
ROTC mom of an Ivy c/o 2029 here. I would use LTC Rob Kirkland's website. He is a wealth of knowledge!!!!!
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