Service Academy admissions for a recruited athlete. Anyone btdt?

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Anonymous wrote:Any interest from other D1 or D2 schools?

Op here. Some, yes. A good amount from D2 who seem very quick to offer scholarship money. A very little from D1 other than SA (good d1 would be the top choice, but it’s unlikely). And a decent amount from D3 academic schools. Dc will never be a professional athlete but wants to continue with the sport in college.

Does he have a strong desire to serve in the USN upon graduation and willing to embrace all the extras a military academy brings over the next 4 years outside of the academics and football? If so, the Academy would then be a great choice. Otherwise, going to an academically good D2 or D3 school and have his tuition paid and still being able to enjoy a normal college experience would be awesome. Good luck with whatever he decides!

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If your child is female vs male it is different as well - not just from a recruiting standpoint, but for everything. Being a woman cadet brings unique challenges. Being a woman in the military brings even more challenges.

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Anonymous wrote:May start off in the military academy prep schools first, if standardized test scores or grades not up to par to get in without the sport. They play the sport at the prep schools and compete against other prep schools and junior colleges, I believe.

If Army, Navy, or Air, that's D1 and will involve traveling for the sport, which obviously will take up some time. Not sure if they can take a lightened course load, though. If they can get in without doing a D1 sport, it may be an "easier" time -- relatively speaking.

Op here. Yes, d1 is the goal although d1 sports at these schools aren’t all that competitive compared to many other d1 schools, from what I can see.

Dc is intent on playing his sport in college. His academic stats are fine, acc to the coaches.

Did your dc get recruited and end up at an academy? Anything he/she would do differently?

Dc has been to USAFA, WP and Navy and seems to enjoy them all. At one, they even took the kids through the early morning wake up, being yelled at routine, and dc handled it fine. In fact, he was disappointed that his time there wasn’t more physically rigorous.

I'm guessing you're not talking about football? They've been pretty competitive lately.

Not football but I don’t think I’d consider football at an academy the same as football at OSU, as example. Would you?

But no, not football

I mean, no, maybe the training required is not *exactly* the same as at OSU, but you can look at their schedules and see who they played this year and the amount of out-of -town travel that was required on top of everything else that is required of regular recruits. A lot of the games were televised, and I'm guessing they're playing to win as opposed to treating it like a rec league. Some of them have gone "pro" directly after with the rules now allowing them to do so.

I would talk to other athletes at the SA to see how they balance it all, especially since you said your kid already has the stats to get in without being a RA.

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Anonymous wrote:The recruiting process is very similar to any other college with the additional hurdle of having to pass the medical exam. It is best for your DC to do an official visit. This is the best way for them to see what a day is like at the Academy, talk to current players, and visit classes. Like other schools, the coach will help you through the application process (which is very long for academies)

I get the sense you/your dc didn’t experience this

Both I and DC played a sport at an Academy

I guess that caused you to miss out on your english class.

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Anonymous wrote:Any interest from other D1 or D2 schools?

Op here. Some, yes. A good amount from D2 who seem very quick to offer scholarship money. A very little from D1 other than SA (good d1 would be the top choice, but it’s unlikely). And a decent amount from D3 academic schools. Dc will never be a professional athlete but wants to continue with the sport in college.

Which D2s, if you don't mind? Sounds similar to my DC, but no D2 schools offering $. Seems to all be D1s like SAs and Ivies and then academic D3s -- with the D3s requiring 34+/1500+. I would be interested in hearing about a competitive academic D2 that offered scholarhip money.

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Be aware that they can still be denied because of their medical history. Really urge you to not spend too much time on thinking about a SA until that part is over. There are a lot of ways to be disqualified regardless of how fit you are.

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Anonymous wrote:Be aware that they can still be denied because of their medical history. Really urge you to not spend too much time on thinking about a SA until that part is over. There are a lot of ways to be disqualified regardless of how fit you are.

Yes, we are aware. My close relative is a USAFA ALO.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any interest from other D1 or D2 schools?

Op here. Some, yes. A good amount from D2 who seem very quick to offer scholarship money. A very little from D1 other than SA (good d1 would be the top choice, but it’s unlikely). And a decent amount from D3 academic schools. Dc will never be a professional athlete but wants to continue with the sport in college.

Which D2s, if you don't mind? Sounds similar to my DC, but no D2 schools offering $. Seems to all be D1s like SAs and Ivies and then academic D3s -- with the D3s requiring 34+/1500+. I would be interested in hearing about a competitive academic D2 that offered scholarhip money.

What good academic d2 are there?

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Anonymous wrote:May start off in the military academy prep schools first, if standardized test scores or grades not up to par to get in without the sport. They play the sport at the prep schools and compete against other prep schools and junior colleges, I believe.

If Army, Navy, or Air, that's D1 and will involve traveling for the sport, which obviously will take up some time. Not sure if they can take a lightened course load, though. If they can get in without doing a D1 sport, it may be an "easier" time -- relatively speaking.

Op here. Yes, d1 is the goal although d1 sports at these schools aren’t all that competitive compared to many other d1 schools, from what I can see.

Dc is intent on playing his sport in college. His academic stats are fine, acc to the coaches.

Did your dc get recruited and end up at an academy? Anything he/she would do differently?

Dc has been to USAFA, WP and Navy and seems to enjoy them all. At one, they even took the kids through the early morning wake up, being yelled at routine, and dc handled it fine. In fact, he was disappointed that his time there wasn’t more physically rigorous.

I'm guessing you're not talking about football? They've been pretty competitive lately.

Not football but I don’t think I’d consider football at an academy the same as football at OSU, as example. Would you?

But no, not football

I mean, no, maybe the training required is not *exactly* the same as at OSU, but you can look at their schedules and see who they played this year and the amount of out-of -town travel that was required on top of everything else that is required of regular recruits. A lot of the games were televised, and I'm guessing they're playing to win as opposed to treating it like a rec league. Some of them have gone "pro" directly after with the rules now allowing them to do so.

I would talk to other athletes at the SA to see how they balance it all, especially since you said your kid already has the stats to get in without being a RA.

Op here. Sorry, I meant in terms of performance. I support my dc but he is not an elite d1 athlete. He’s not an OSU level football player, as comparison. But yes, he’s aware of the training commitment and has worked with the coaches at their camps- that’s how he was connected in the first place. I suggest that for anyone interested in the academies who is an athlete, in addition to their regular junior year camps. The sports camps are open to younger kids and it gives dc a chance to see the campus and get in front of coaches. If your kid is good, they will stand out and conversations will begin.

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OP, I thought you said your kid was not a football player, but maybe I am thinking of a different recruiting thread. Check out service academy forums, if you haven't already. I am not sure I would encourage this kind of time commitment at a SA unless it helps them get in, and they really want to go. Every cadet has to do some physical activity, but D1 football at Army or Navy is going to be a lot more involved than a lower-stress club or rec sport that also fulfills the physical activity requirement. They are not getting a sports scholarship or NIL money, so is it worth it, if they can get in without it? I guess only they can answer that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any interest from other D1 or D2 schools?

Op here. Some, yes. A good amount from D2 who seem very quick to offer scholarship money. A very little from D1 other than SA (good d1 would be the top choice, but it’s unlikely). And a decent amount from D3 academic schools. Dc will never be a professional athlete but wants to continue with the sport in college.

Which D2s, if you don't mind? Sounds similar to my DC, but no D2 schools offering $. Seems to all be D1s like SAs and Ivies and then academic D3s -- with the D3s requiring 34+/1500+. I would be interested in hearing about a competitive academic D2 that offered scholarhip money.

What good academic d2 are there?

Would also like to know this, especially those that offer $.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:May start off in the military academy prep schools first, if standardized test scores or grades not up to par to get in without the sport. They play the sport at the prep schools and compete against other prep schools and junior colleges, I believe.

If Army, Navy, or Air, that's D1 and will involve traveling for the sport, which obviously will take up some time. Not sure if they can take a lightened course load, though. If they can get in without doing a D1 sport, it may be an "easier" time -- relatively speaking.

Op here. Yes, d1 is the goal although d1 sports at these schools aren’t all that competitive compared to many other d1 schools, from what I can see.

Dc is intent on playing his sport in college. His academic stats are fine, acc to the coaches.

Did your dc get recruited and end up at an academy? Anything he/she would do differently?

Dc has been to USAFA, WP and Navy and seems to enjoy them all. At one, they even took the kids through the early morning wake up, being yelled at routine, and dc handled it fine. In fact, he was disappointed that his time there wasn’t more physically rigorous.

I'm guessing you're not talking about football? They've been pretty competitive lately.

Not football but I don’t think I’d consider football at an academy the same as football at OSU, as example. Would you?

But no, not football

I mean, no, maybe the training required is not *exactly* the same as at OSU, but you can look at their schedules and see who they played this year and the amount of out-of -town travel that was required on top of everything else that is required of regular recruits. A lot of the games were televised, and I'm guessing they're playing to win as opposed to treating it like a rec league. Some of them have gone "pro" directly after with the rules now allowing them to do so.

I would talk to other athletes at the SA to see how they balance it all, especially since you said your kid already has the stats to get in without being a RA.

Op here. Sorry, I meant in terms of performance. I support my dc but he is not an elite d1 athlete. He’s not an OSU level football player, as comparison. But yes, he’s aware of the training commitment and has worked with the coaches at their camps- that’s how he was connected in the first place. I suggest that for anyone interested in the academies who is an athlete, in addition to their regular junior year camps. The sports camps are open to younger kids and it gives dc a chance to see the campus and get in front of coaches. If your kid is good, they will stand out and conversations will begin.

No, the required performance level is not the same, but how does the time commitment and training requirement compare? How many of those OSU players are getting NIL money, too? As they should, IMO, as they are making $$$ for the school, risking injuries,and giving up a lot of their time. If playing football, you ideally should be getting something that you would otherwise not get (really good education, $, scholarship). That may not be how a kid looks at it, though.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I thought you said your kid was not a football player, but maybe I am thinking of a different recruiting thread. Check out service academy forums, if you haven't already. I am not sure I would encourage this kind of time commitment at a SA unless it helps them get in, and they really want to go. Every cadet has to do some physical activity, but D1 football at Army or Navy is going to be a lot more involved than a lower-stress club or rec sport that also fulfills the physical activity requirement. They are not getting a sports scholarship or NIL money, so is it worth it, if they can get in without it? I guess only they can answer that.

No, not football. But I was just making a comparison about how sports are good at a SA but the kids are not top d1 athletes. My kid doesn’t want a club sport, not even close. He lives for his sport and for physical activity. If he could be that top d1 athlete at a school like OSU for football (again, not football) he would be. He’s just not at that level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any interest from other D1 or D2 schools?

Op here. Some, yes. A good amount from D2 who seem very quick to offer scholarship money. A very little from D1 other than SA (good d1 would be the top choice, but it’s unlikely). And a decent amount from D3 academic schools. Dc will never be a professional athlete but wants to continue with the sport in college.

Which D2s, if you don't mind? Sounds similar to my DC, but no D2 schools offering $. Seems to all be D1s like SAs and Ivies and then academic D3s -- with the D3s requiring 34+/1500+. I would be interested in hearing about a competitive academic D2 that offered scholarhip money.

What good academic d2 are there?

Would also like to know this, especially those that offer $.

Op here. Honestly I don’t know of any good d2 schools academically. We do get inquiries, but don’t follow up bc we’ve never heard of any of these schools being good academically

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My son has a friend from Jackson-Reed who was recruited for crew at the Naval Academy this year.