Air India plane crash - 240+ feared dead

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Anonymous wrote:They think it may have been a bird strike.

Could be a lot of things, they’ll have to investigate:
Pilot error
Mechanical sabotage
Petrol/fuseline sabotage
Hijacking
Bird strike
Mechanical / electronic aircraft issue
Engine issue
Pilot suicide
Pilot serious acute health issue

The way the wings were sagging, I thought the plane was overloaded. The sole survivor mentioned a loud bang underneath, so I am thinking maybe the cargo became loose and shifted backwards, towards the tail.

You clearly know nothing about the dynamics of these planes in flight.

The wings are designed to flex upwards like you see in the video, for several reasons, from inducing roll stability from the wing dihedral to having a large degree of flex over the span of the wing to dissipate shock loads and vibration from turbulence. The wings on 777’s and 787’s are designed to flex upwards under flight up to ~15ft at the wing tips.

Agreed. Wings would have been mored bowed had flaps been down and landing gear up.

[Anonymous]

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In the video, you can see the plane doesn't have its flaps deployed, AS IT SHOULD during lift-off and landing.

So it's possible the flaps malfunctioned, the pilot was aware but he couldn't land the plane safely.

Flaps up and landing gear still down. I've read speculation that co-pilot pulled flaps up instead of landing gear. Loss of lift, combined with heavy drag of landing gear, plane stalls and no time to recover. I will be interest to hear experience of co-pilot.

I thought a photo of the wing was released in which the flaps appear to be down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I bet it's more than likely generic or offbrand parts.

So
Aircraft maintenance issues (quality of parts or quality of labor inspection)

I saw a video where a passenger on the exact same airplane had posted earlier in the day how certain things on the plane were not functioning & were seemingly out of order.

Like the touchscreens.
Etc.

I haven't seen the video. What wasn't working on the plane? It seems like touchscreens not working is nothing unusual for Air India even for business class and first class though.

Regardless, touchscreens aren't integral to flight operations.

No one said they were.

But it speaks to overall maintenance and lack of attention to detail. You cannot convince me that an airline that won’t bother to fix seatback displays or call buttons or interior lighting isn’t also cutting corners or slacking on engine/airframe/hydraulics/filght control surfaces and other maintenance.

Maintained by different people.

[Anonymous]

Flaps were correct, landing gear not properly retracted. The engines power the landing gear and seem to have failed almost immediately after takeoff. Possibly a problem with the fuel that affected both engines, they have separate tanks.

More bodies are being found on the ground, the toll is above 270.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet it's more than likely generic or offbrand parts.

So
Aircraft maintenance issues (quality of parts or quality of labor inspection)

I saw a video where a passenger on the exact same airplane had posted earlier in the day how certain things on the plane were not functioning & were seemingly out of order.

Like the touchscreens.
Etc.

I also saw this video on twitter and there were many comments saying it wasn’t even the same flight. Don’t believe everything you see and read on the internet (even if it was in fact the same plane)…and resist the urge to relay information you don’t know for sure is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet it's more than likely generic or offbrand parts.

So
Aircraft maintenance issues (quality of parts or quality of labor inspection)

I saw a video where a passenger on the exact same airplane had posted earlier in the day how certain things on the plane were not functioning & were seemingly out of order.

Like the touchscreens.
Etc.

I also saw this video on twitter and there were many comments saying it wasn’t even the same flight. Don’t believe everything you see and read on the internet (even if it was in fact the same plane)…and resist the urge to relay information you don’t know for sure is true.

DP. Air India only has/had one 787, so others have posted their experiences with the same plane on previous flights. That said, they have been many indiscriminate posts about the plane and the crash.

[Anonymous]

Video showing taxi and takeoff flaps look same position. Same as in flight and stall.

[Anonymous]

Was not pilot error though everyone loves to jump to that conclusion, especially when it’s a woman or a foreign airline

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was not pilot error though everyone loves to jump to that conclusion, especially when it’s a woman or a foreign airline

those pilots are not exactly top gun

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Was not pilot error though everyone loves to jump to that conclusion, especially when it’s a woman or a foreign airline

those pilots are not exactly top gun

You are an asshat who knows nothing about the pilots. The Captain had over 30,000 hours and was just a few weeks from retiring. In other words, he was one of the most experienced pilots at that airline, or any airline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Was not pilot error though everyone loves to jump to that conclusion, especially when it’s a woman or a foreign airline

those pilots are not exactly top gun

You are an asshat who knows nothing about the pilots. The Captain had over 30,000 hours and was just a few weeks from retiring. In other words, he was one of the most experienced pilots at that airline, or any airline.

Lots of hours does not mean he/she was good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was not pilot error though everyone loves to jump to that conclusion, especially when it’s a woman or a foreign airline

those pilots are not exactly top gun

You are an asshat who knows nothing about the pilots. The Captain had over 30,000 hours and was just a few weeks from retiring. In other words, he was one of the most experienced pilots at that airline, or any airline.

Lots of hours does not mean he/she was good.

Seems like a sudden power loss to the engines, based on some current speculations.

[Anonymous]

I saw an incredible video online of the lone survivor walking away from the wreckage which made me feel like this person was lying….that he actually was not (could not!) have even been on that flight! ✈️
But I think something like that would be hard to lie about.

I think this man is by far the luckiest person on the planet….to escape death in such an incredible fashion defies logic.
Sadly his own brother died on this flight however.

I am wondering what could have caused such a horrific accident - - hopefully we will find out soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet it's more than likely generic or offbrand parts.

So
Aircraft maintenance issues (quality of parts or quality of labor inspection)

I saw a video where a passenger on the exact same airplane had posted earlier in the day how certain things on the plane were not functioning & were seemingly out of order.

Like the touchscreens.
Etc.

I also saw this video on twitter and there were many comments saying it wasn’t even the same flight. Don’t believe everything you see and read on the internet (even if it was in fact the same plane)…and resist the urge to relay information you don’t know for sure is true.

DP. Air India only has/had one 787, so others have posted their experiences with the same plane on previous flights. That said, they have been many indiscriminate posts about the plane and the crash.

I read that they have 34 787s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I saw an incredible video online of the lone survivor walking away from the wreckage which made me feel like this person was lying….that he actually was not (could not!) have even been on that flight! ✈️
But I think something like that would be hard to lie about.

I think this man is by far the luckiest person on the planet….to escape death in such an incredible fashion defies logic.
Sadly his own brother died on this flight however.

I am wondering what could have caused such a horrific accident - - hopefully we will find out soon.

This was my initial reaction too - that he was a con artist! It is just insane to me that not only did he survive, he WALKED AWAY as if you would a minor fender bender. That would be such a mind F.