RFKjr Removes all 17 of the CDC Vaccine Advisor Board

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:RFK is trying to eliminate mRna from vaccines, personally which I agree. I'm not vaccinated for covid, however participated in two NIH vaccine studies in 2018 and 2019 and now have myocarditis. This morning's BP was 160/95.

The cure is worse than the disease.

I had to go to multiple family zoom funerals for covid deaths and my kid has long covid so the disease is very very very bad.

It sounds like your family has a genetic issue. I do not know a single person who died of COVID or has "long COVID".

Soundzs like you have few friends and acquaintances. Not hard to see why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the article from WSJ, and Kennedy Jr. isn't wrong that this was a group of people who may not have had the American people as their main concern:

That is why, under my direction, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is putting the restoration of public trust above any pro- or antivaccine agenda. The public must know that unbiased science guides the recommendations from our health agencies. This will ensure the American people receive the safest vaccines possible.

Today, we are taking a bold step in restoring public trust by totally reconstituting the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP). We are retiring the 17 current members of the committee, some of whom were last-minute appointees of the Biden administration. Without removing the current members, the current Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of new members until 2028.

ACIP evaluates the safety, efficacy and clinical need of the nation’s vaccines and passes its findings on to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The committee has been plagued with persistent conflicts of interest and has become little more than a rubber stamp for any vaccine. It has never recommended against a vaccine—even those later withdrawn for safety reasons. It has failed to scrutinize vaccine products given to babies and pregnant women. To make matters worse, the groups that inform ACIP meet behind closed doors, violating the legal and ethical principle of transparency crucial to maintaining public trust.

In 2000 the House issued the results of an investigation of ACIP and another vaccine advisory committee under the U.S. Food and Drug Administration—the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee. It found that enforcement of its conflict-of-interest rules was weak to nonexistent. Committee members regularly participated in deliberations and advocated products in which they had a financial stake. The CDC issued conflict-of-interest waivers to every committee member. Four out of eight ACIP members who voted in 1997 on guidelines for the Rotashield vaccine, subsequently withdrawn because of severe adverse events, had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies developing other rotavirus vaccines. A 2009 HHS inspector-general report echoed these findings. Few committee members completed full conflict-of-interest forms—97% of them had omissions. The CDC took no significant action to remedy the omissions.

These conflicts of interest persist. Most of ACIP’s members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies, including those marketing vaccines. The problem isn’t necessarily that ACIP members are corrupt. Most likely aim to serve the public interest as they understand it. The problem is their immersion in a system of industry-aligned incentives and paradigms that enforce a narrow pro-industry orthodoxy. The new members won’t directly work for the vaccine industry. They will exercise independent judgment, refuse to serve as a rubber stamp, and foster a culture of critical inquiry—unafraid to ask hard questions.

A clean sweep is needed to re-establish public confidence in vaccine science. In the 1960s, the world sought guidance from America’s health regulators, who had a reputation for integrity, scientific impartiality and zealous defense of patient welfare. Public trust has since collapsed, but we will earn it back.

Make a solid argument why this shouldn't happen. I am all ears.

Exactly. The medical mafia has been in control for decades, yet Americans keep getting sicker and sicker.

Funny how research is always booming. Enough already!

you have got to be F-ing KIDDING me...they are looking at a report from a GENERATION ago that was POLITICAL. ACIP is not and SHOULD NOT be POLITICAL! You are NUTS. Enjoy the re-emergence of diseases once eradicated and while we are at it...not having access to any breakthrough medications because we are EXPORTING all of our innovators. The loonies are in control and there is not one elected official in the majority who is willing to stand up and say enough! These are very dark times

There are no breakthroughs if we continue doing thing the old way and say the “science is settled”. We continue going down the route of old understanding of immunology, virology and infection disease from the 1960s. And if agencies are run by Pharma shills or become politicized nothing positive will happen. Yeah, I agree, time for some breakthrough here.

Um..you do realize that RFK and the admin has basically stopped all the innovative research?? Can’t have breakthroughs without innovation

[Anonymous]

Liability. Forget about every other part of this “sensitive” debate. Address the liability issues and it should course correct over profit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the article from WSJ, and Kennedy Jr. isn't wrong that this was a group of people who may not have had the American people as their main concern:

That is why, under my direction, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is putting the restoration of public trust above any pro- or antivaccine agenda. The public must know that unbiased science guides the recommendations from our health agencies. This will ensure the American people receive the safest vaccines possible.

Today, we are taking a bold step in restoring public trust by totally reconstituting the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP). We are retiring the 17 current members of the committee, some of whom were last-minute appointees of the Biden administration. Without removing the current members, the current Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of new members until 2028.

ACIP evaluates the safety, efficacy and clinical need of the nation’s vaccines and passes its findings on to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The committee has been plagued with persistent conflicts of interest and has become little more than a rubber stamp for any vaccine. It has never recommended against a vaccine—even those later withdrawn for safety reasons. It has failed to scrutinize vaccine products given to babies and pregnant women. To make matters worse, the groups that inform ACIP meet behind closed doors, violating the legal and ethical principle of transparency crucial to maintaining public trust.

In 2000 the House issued the results of an investigation of ACIP and another vaccine advisory committee under the U.S. Food and Drug Administration—the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee. It found that enforcement of its conflict-of-interest rules was weak to nonexistent. Committee members regularly participated in deliberations and advocated products in which they had a financial stake. The CDC issued conflict-of-interest waivers to every committee member. Four out of eight ACIP members who voted in 1997 on guidelines for the Rotashield vaccine, subsequently withdrawn because of severe adverse events, had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies developing other rotavirus vaccines. A 2009 HHS inspector-general report echoed these findings. Few committee members completed full conflict-of-interest forms—97% of them had omissions. The CDC took no significant action to remedy the omissions.

These conflicts of interest persist. Most of ACIP’s members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies, including those marketing vaccines. The problem isn’t necessarily that ACIP members are corrupt. Most likely aim to serve the public interest as they understand it. The problem is their immersion in a system of industry-aligned incentives and paradigms that enforce a narrow pro-industry orthodoxy. The new members won’t directly work for the vaccine industry. They will exercise independent judgment, refuse to serve as a rubber stamp, and foster a culture of critical inquiry—unafraid to ask hard questions.

A clean sweep is needed to re-establish public confidence in vaccine science. In the 1960s, the world sought guidance from America’s health regulators, who had a reputation for integrity, scientific impartiality and zealous defense of patient welfare. Public trust has since collapsed, but we will earn it back.

Make a solid argument why this shouldn't happen. I am all ears.

Exactly. The medical mafia has been in control for decades, yet Americans keep getting sicker and sicker.

Funny how research is always booming. Enough already!

you have got to be F-ing KIDDING me...they are looking at a report from a GENERATION ago that was POLITICAL. ACIP is not and SHOULD NOT be POLITICAL! You are NUTS. Enjoy the re-emergence of diseases once eradicated and while we are at it...not having access to any breakthrough medications because we are EXPORTING all of our innovators. The loonies are in control and there is not one elected official in the majority who is willing to stand up and say enough! These are very dark times

There are no breakthroughs if we continue doing thing the old way and say the “science is settled”. We continue going down the route of old understanding of immunology, virology and infection disease from the 1960s. And if agencies are run by Pharma shills or become politicized nothing positive will happen. Yeah, I agree, time for some breakthrough here.

Um..you do realize that RFK and the admin has basically stopped all the innovative research?? Can’t have breakthroughs without innovation

Or independent funding for it. So you all hate big pharma but now want them to do the majority of the research with no independent federal research and limited federal oversight?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the article from WSJ, and Kennedy Jr. isn't wrong that this was a group of people who may not have had the American people as their main concern:

That is why, under my direction, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is putting the restoration of public trust above any pro- or antivaccine agenda. The public must know that unbiased science guides the recommendations from our health agencies. This will ensure the American people receive the safest vaccines possible.

Today, we are taking a bold step in restoring public trust by totally reconstituting the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP). We are retiring the 17 current members of the committee, some of whom were last-minute appointees of the Biden administration. Without removing the current members, the current Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of new members until 2028.

ACIP evaluates the safety, efficacy and clinical need of the nation’s vaccines and passes its findings on to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The committee has been plagued with persistent conflicts of interest and has become little more than a rubber stamp for any vaccine. It has never recommended against a vaccine—even those later withdrawn for safety reasons. It has failed to scrutinize vaccine products given to babies and pregnant women. To make matters worse, the groups that inform ACIP meet behind closed doors, violating the legal and ethical principle of transparency crucial to maintaining public trust.

In 2000 the House issued the results of an investigation of ACIP and another vaccine advisory committee under the U.S. Food and Drug Administration—the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee. It found that enforcement of its conflict-of-interest rules was weak to nonexistent. Committee members regularly participated in deliberations and advocated products in which they had a financial stake. The CDC issued conflict-of-interest waivers to every committee member. Four out of eight ACIP members who voted in 1997 on guidelines for the Rotashield vaccine, subsequently withdrawn because of severe adverse events, had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies developing other rotavirus vaccines. A 2009 HHS inspector-general report echoed these findings. Few committee members completed full conflict-of-interest forms—97% of them had omissions. The CDC took no significant action to remedy the omissions.

These conflicts of interest persist. Most of ACIP’s members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies, including those marketing vaccines. The problem isn’t necessarily that ACIP members are corrupt. Most likely aim to serve the public interest as they understand it. The problem is their immersion in a system of industry-aligned incentives and paradigms that enforce a narrow pro-industry orthodoxy. The new members won’t directly work for the vaccine industry. They will exercise independent judgment, refuse to serve as a rubber stamp, and foster a culture of critical inquiry—unafraid to ask hard questions.

A clean sweep is needed to re-establish public confidence in vaccine science. In the 1960s, the world sought guidance from America’s health regulators, who had a reputation for integrity, scientific impartiality and zealous defense of patient welfare. Public trust has since collapsed, but we will earn it back.

Make a solid argument why this shouldn't happen. I am all ears.

Exactly. The medical mafia has been in control for decades, yet Americans keep getting sicker and sicker.

Funny how research is always booming. Enough already!

you have got to be F-ing KIDDING me...they are looking at a report from a GENERATION ago that was POLITICAL. ACIP is not and SHOULD NOT be POLITICAL! You are NUTS. Enjoy the re-emergence of diseases once eradicated and while we are at it...not having access to any breakthrough medications because we are EXPORTING all of our innovators. The loonies are in control and there is not one elected official in the majority who is willing to stand up and say enough! These are very dark times

There are no breakthroughs if we continue doing thing the old way and say the “science is settled”. We continue going down the route of old understanding of immunology, virology and infection disease from the 1960s. And if agencies are run by Pharma shills or become politicized nothing positive will happen. Yeah, I agree, time for some breakthrough here.

Um..you do realize that RFK and the admin has basically stopped all the innovative research?? Can’t have breakthroughs without innovation

Or independent funding for it. So you all hate big pharma but now want them to do the majority of the research with no independent federal research and limited federal oversight?

Research would be the pursuit of factual knowledge confirmed by actual data. Why would Maga have an interest in that? Making America great means giving up our leadership position in science. Keep up.

[Anonymous]

I checked with the thread police. It is fine to discuss long covid in a thread about RFK and vaccine advisory boards.

[Anonymous]

There are conflicting studies about the role of vaccination in preventing long covid. Let's not fund any research or have any advisory boards to assist the American people and get into the bottom of it. That sounds like a really good plan maga.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are conflicting studies about the role of vaccination in preventing long covid. Let's not fund any research or have any advisory boards to assist the American people and get into the bottom of it. That sounds like a really good plan maga.

Maga wants to destroy scientific progress.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are conflicting studies about the role of vaccination in preventing long covid. Let's not fund any research or have any advisory boards to assist the American people and get into the bottom of it. That sounds like a really good plan maga.

Maga wants to destroy scientific progress.

Given the fruits that science is bearing, can you blame them? Just look at how Americans look these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are conflicting studies about the role of vaccination in preventing long covid. Let's not fund any research or have any advisory boards to assist the American people and get into the bottom of it. That sounds like a really good plan maga.

Maga wants to destroy scientific progress.

I am sure cutting federal funding and only having privatized research will help.

/s

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the article from WSJ, and Kennedy Jr. isn't wrong that this was a group of people who may not have had the American people as their main concern:

That is why, under my direction, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is putting the restoration of public trust above any pro- or antivaccine agenda. The public must know that unbiased science guides the recommendations from our health agencies. This will ensure the American people receive the safest vaccines possible.

Today, we are taking a bold step in restoring public trust by totally reconstituting the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP). We are retiring the 17 current members of the committee, some of whom were last-minute appointees of the Biden administration. Without removing the current members, the current Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of new members until 2028.

ACIP evaluates the safety, efficacy and clinical need of the nation’s vaccines and passes its findings on to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The committee has been plagued with persistent conflicts of interest and has become little more than a rubber stamp for any vaccine. It has never recommended against a vaccine—even those later withdrawn for safety reasons. It has failed to scrutinize vaccine products given to babies and pregnant women. To make matters worse, the groups that inform ACIP meet behind closed doors, violating the legal and ethical principle of transparency crucial to maintaining public trust.

In 2000 the House issued the results of an investigation of ACIP and another vaccine advisory committee under the U.S. Food and Drug Administration—the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee. It found that enforcement of its conflict-of-interest rules was weak to nonexistent. Committee members regularly participated in deliberations and advocated products in which they had a financial stake. The CDC issued conflict-of-interest waivers to every committee member. Four out of eight ACIP members who voted in 1997 on guidelines for the Rotashield vaccine, subsequently withdrawn because of severe adverse events, had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies developing other rotavirus vaccines. A 2009 HHS inspector-general report echoed these findings. Few committee members completed full conflict-of-interest forms—97% of them had omissions. The CDC took no significant action to remedy the omissions.

These conflicts of interest persist. Most of ACIP’s members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies, including those marketing vaccines. The problem isn’t necessarily that ACIP members are corrupt. Most likely aim to serve the public interest as they understand it. The problem is their immersion in a system of industry-aligned incentives and paradigms that enforce a narrow pro-industry orthodoxy. The new members won’t directly work for the vaccine industry. They will exercise independent judgment, refuse to serve as a rubber stamp, and foster a culture of critical inquiry—unafraid to ask hard questions.

A clean sweep is needed to re-establish public confidence in vaccine science. In the 1960s, the world sought guidance from America’s health regulators, who had a reputation for integrity, scientific impartiality and zealous defense of patient welfare. Public trust has since collapsed, but we will earn it back.

Make a solid argument why this shouldn't happen. I am all ears.

Exactly. The medical mafia has been in control for decades, yet Americans keep getting sicker and sicker.

Funny how research is always booming. Enough already!

you have got to be F-ing KIDDING me...they are looking at a report from a GENERATION ago that was POLITICAL. ACIP is not and SHOULD NOT be POLITICAL! You are NUTS. Enjoy the re-emergence of diseases once eradicated and while we are at it...not having access to any breakthrough medications because we are EXPORTING all of our innovators. The loonies are in control and there is not one elected official in the majority who is willing to stand up and say enough! These are very dark times

There are no breakthroughs if we continue doing thing the old way and say the “science is settled”. We continue going down the route of old understanding of immunology, virology and infection disease from the 1960s. And if agencies are run by Pharma shills or become politicized nothing positive will happen. Yeah, I agree, time for some breakthrough here.

Um..you do realize that RFK and the admin has basically stopped all the innovative research?? Can’t have breakthroughs without innovation

Yeah, all that gazillions of our cash is surely on the verge of curing cancer, huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the article from WSJ, and Kennedy Jr. isn't wrong that this was a group of people who may not have had the American people as their main concern:

That is why, under my direction, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is putting the restoration of public trust above any pro- or antivaccine agenda. The public must know that unbiased science guides the recommendations from our health agencies. This will ensure the American people receive the safest vaccines possible.

Today, we are taking a bold step in restoring public trust by totally reconstituting the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP). We are retiring the 17 current members of the committee, some of whom were last-minute appointees of the Biden administration. Without removing the current members, the current Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of new members until 2028.

ACIP evaluates the safety, efficacy and clinical need of the nation’s vaccines and passes its findings on to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The committee has been plagued with persistent conflicts of interest and has become little more than a rubber stamp for any vaccine. It has never recommended against a vaccine—even those later withdrawn for safety reasons. It has failed to scrutinize vaccine products given to babies and pregnant women. To make matters worse, the groups that inform ACIP meet behind closed doors, violating the legal and ethical principle of transparency crucial to maintaining public trust.

In 2000 the House issued the results of an investigation of ACIP and another vaccine advisory committee under the U.S. Food and Drug Administration—the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee. It found that enforcement of its conflict-of-interest rules was weak to nonexistent. Committee members regularly participated in deliberations and advocated products in which they had a financial stake. The CDC issued conflict-of-interest waivers to every committee member. Four out of eight ACIP members who voted in 1997 on guidelines for the Rotashield vaccine, subsequently withdrawn because of severe adverse events, had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies developing other rotavirus vaccines. A 2009 HHS inspector-general report echoed these findings. Few committee members completed full conflict-of-interest forms—97% of them had omissions. The CDC took no significant action to remedy the omissions.

These conflicts of interest persist. Most of ACIP’s members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies, including those marketing vaccines. The problem isn’t necessarily that ACIP members are corrupt. Most likely aim to serve the public interest as they understand it. The problem is their immersion in a system of industry-aligned incentives and paradigms that enforce a narrow pro-industry orthodoxy. The new members won’t directly work for the vaccine industry. They will exercise independent judgment, refuse to serve as a rubber stamp, and foster a culture of critical inquiry—unafraid to ask hard questions.

A clean sweep is needed to re-establish public confidence in vaccine science. In the 1960s, the world sought guidance from America’s health regulators, who had a reputation for integrity, scientific impartiality and zealous defense of patient welfare. Public trust has since collapsed, but we will earn it back.

Make a solid argument why this shouldn't happen. I am all ears.

Exactly. The medical mafia has been in control for decades, yet Americans keep getting sicker and sicker.

Funny how research is always booming. Enough already!

you have got to be F-ing KIDDING me...they are looking at a report from a GENERATION ago that was POLITICAL. ACIP is not and SHOULD NOT be POLITICAL! You are NUTS. Enjoy the re-emergence of diseases once eradicated and while we are at it...not having access to any breakthrough medications because we are EXPORTING all of our innovators. The loonies are in control and there is not one elected official in the majority who is willing to stand up and say enough! These are very dark times

There are no breakthroughs if we continue doing thing the old way and say the “science is settled”. We continue going down the route of old understanding of immunology, virology and infection disease from the 1960s. And if agencies are run by Pharma shills or become politicized nothing positive will happen. Yeah, I agree, time for some breakthrough here.

Um..you do realize that RFK and the admin has basically stopped all the innovative research?? Can’t have breakthroughs without innovation

Yeah, all that gazillions of our cash is surely on the verge of curing cancer, huh?

Oh definitely handle your cancer diagnosis all by yourself. Who the heck needs modern medicine? Eat some roots and berries. You'll be fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the article from WSJ, and Kennedy Jr. isn't wrong that this was a group of people who may not have had the American people as their main concern:

That is why, under my direction, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is putting the restoration of public trust above any pro- or antivaccine agenda. The public must know that unbiased science guides the recommendations from our health agencies. This will ensure the American people receive the safest vaccines possible.

Today, we are taking a bold step in restoring public trust by totally reconstituting the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP). We are retiring the 17 current members of the committee, some of whom were last-minute appointees of the Biden administration. Without removing the current members, the current Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of new members until 2028.

ACIP evaluates the safety, efficacy and clinical need of the nation’s vaccines and passes its findings on to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The committee has been plagued with persistent conflicts of interest and has become little more than a rubber stamp for any vaccine. It has never recommended against a vaccine—even those later withdrawn for safety reasons. It has failed to scrutinize vaccine products given to babies and pregnant women. To make matters worse, the groups that inform ACIP meet behind closed doors, violating the legal and ethical principle of transparency crucial to maintaining public trust.

In 2000 the House issued the results of an investigation of ACIP and another vaccine advisory committee under the U.S. Food and Drug Administration—the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee. It found that enforcement of its conflict-of-interest rules was weak to nonexistent. Committee members regularly participated in deliberations and advocated products in which they had a financial stake. The CDC issued conflict-of-interest waivers to every committee member. Four out of eight ACIP members who voted in 1997 on guidelines for the Rotashield vaccine, subsequently withdrawn because of severe adverse events, had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies developing other rotavirus vaccines. A 2009 HHS inspector-general report echoed these findings. Few committee members completed full conflict-of-interest forms—97% of them had omissions. The CDC took no significant action to remedy the omissions.

These conflicts of interest persist. Most of ACIP’s members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies, including those marketing vaccines. The problem isn’t necessarily that ACIP members are corrupt. Most likely aim to serve the public interest as they understand it. The problem is their immersion in a system of industry-aligned incentives and paradigms that enforce a narrow pro-industry orthodoxy. The new members won’t directly work for the vaccine industry. They will exercise independent judgment, refuse to serve as a rubber stamp, and foster a culture of critical inquiry—unafraid to ask hard questions.

A clean sweep is needed to re-establish public confidence in vaccine science. In the 1960s, the world sought guidance from America’s health regulators, who had a reputation for integrity, scientific impartiality and zealous defense of patient welfare. Public trust has since collapsed, but we will earn it back.

Make a solid argument why this shouldn't happen. I am all ears.

Exactly. The medical mafia has been in control for decades, yet Americans keep getting sicker and sicker.

Funny how research is always booming. Enough already!

you have got to be F-ing KIDDING me...they are looking at a report from a GENERATION ago that was POLITICAL. ACIP is not and SHOULD NOT be POLITICAL! You are NUTS. Enjoy the re-emergence of diseases once eradicated and while we are at it...not having access to any breakthrough medications because we are EXPORTING all of our innovators. The loonies are in control and there is not one elected official in the majority who is willing to stand up and say enough! These are very dark times

There are no breakthroughs if we continue doing thing the old way and say the “science is settled”. We continue going down the route of old understanding of immunology, virology and infection disease from the 1960s. And if agencies are run by Pharma shills or become politicized nothing positive will happen. Yeah, I agree, time for some breakthrough here.

Um..you do realize that RFK and the admin has basically stopped all the innovative research?? Can’t have breakthroughs without innovation

Yeah, all that gazillions of our cash is surely on the verge of curing cancer, huh?

Oh definitely handle your cancer diagnosis all by yourself. Who the heck needs modern medicine? Eat some roots and berries. You'll be fine.

The PP is such a moron. Dozens of therapies and innovations have extended meaningfully the lives of many cancer patients. And their quality of life. But since we don't have a cure yet, trash the whole system?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Soon Americans will die as often as the Amish. Wait, how long do they live again?

The Old Order Amish have a life expectancy of 71 while the greater US population has a life expectancy of 79. What conclusions can be drawn from those numbers?

Don’t bother with the flat earthers. They’ll all be dead soon. Darwin foretold all of this. Hopefully they don’t take too many of us down with them.

In 2028, can we give the vaccine deniers Darwin Awards in mass?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is the article from WSJ, and Kennedy Jr. isn't wrong that this was a group of people who may not have had the American people as their main concern:

That is why, under my direction, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services is putting the restoration of public trust above any pro- or antivaccine agenda. The public must know that unbiased science guides the recommendations from our health agencies. This will ensure the American people receive the safest vaccines possible.

Today, we are taking a bold step in restoring public trust by totally reconstituting the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP). We are retiring the 17 current members of the committee, some of whom were last-minute appointees of the Biden administration. Without removing the current members, the current Trump administration would not have been able to appoint a majority of new members until 2028.

ACIP evaluates the safety, efficacy and clinical need of the nation’s vaccines and passes its findings on to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The committee has been plagued with persistent conflicts of interest and has become little more than a rubber stamp for any vaccine. It has never recommended against a vaccine—even those later withdrawn for safety reasons. It has failed to scrutinize vaccine products given to babies and pregnant women. To make matters worse, the groups that inform ACIP meet behind closed doors, violating the legal and ethical principle of transparency crucial to maintaining public trust.

In 2000 the House issued the results of an investigation of ACIP and another vaccine advisory committee under the U.S. Food and Drug Administration—the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee. It found that enforcement of its conflict-of-interest rules was weak to nonexistent. Committee members regularly participated in deliberations and advocated products in which they had a financial stake. The CDC issued conflict-of-interest waivers to every committee member. Four out of eight ACIP members who voted in 1997 on guidelines for the Rotashield vaccine, subsequently withdrawn because of severe adverse events, had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies developing other rotavirus vaccines. A 2009 HHS inspector-general report echoed these findings. Few committee members completed full conflict-of-interest forms—97% of them had omissions. The CDC took no significant action to remedy the omissions.

These conflicts of interest persist. Most of ACIP’s members have received substantial funding from pharmaceutical companies, including those marketing vaccines. The problem isn’t necessarily that ACIP members are corrupt. Most likely aim to serve the public interest as they understand it. The problem is their immersion in a system of industry-aligned incentives and paradigms that enforce a narrow pro-industry orthodoxy. The new members won’t directly work for the vaccine industry. They will exercise independent judgment, refuse to serve as a rubber stamp, and foster a culture of critical inquiry—unafraid to ask hard questions.

A clean sweep is needed to re-establish public confidence in vaccine science. In the 1960s, the world sought guidance from America’s health regulators, who had a reputation for integrity, scientific impartiality and zealous defense of patient welfare. Public trust has since collapsed, but we will earn it back.

Make a solid argument why this shouldn't happen. I am all ears.

Exactly. The medical mafia has been in control for decades, yet Americans keep getting sicker and sicker.

Funny how research is always booming. Enough already!

you have got to be F-ing KIDDING me...they are looking at a report from a GENERATION ago that was POLITICAL. ACIP is not and SHOULD NOT be POLITICAL! You are NUTS. Enjoy the re-emergence of diseases once eradicated and while we are at it...not having access to any breakthrough medications because we are EXPORTING all of our innovators. The loonies are in control and there is not one elected official in the majority who is willing to stand up and say enough! These are very dark times

There are no breakthroughs if we continue doing thing the old way and say the “science is settled”. We continue going down the route of old understanding of immunology, virology and infection disease from the 1960s. And if agencies are run by Pharma shills or become politicized nothing positive will happen. Yeah, I agree, time for some breakthrough here.

Um..you do realize that RFK and the admin has basically stopped all the innovative research?? Can’t have breakthroughs without innovation

Yeah, all that gazillions of our cash is surely on the verge of curing cancer, huh?

Oh definitely handle your cancer diagnosis all by yourself. Who the heck needs modern medicine? Eat some roots and berries. You'll be fine.

The PP is such a moron. Dozens of therapies and innovations have extended meaningfully the lives of many cancer patients. And their quality of life. But since we don't have a cure yet, trash the whole system?

And science keeps pushing out new carcinogens so people will need the new treatments. You aren’t looking at the big picture here.

We need ounces of prevention not pounds of cure. Because fewer and fewer people have the pounds for the cures…