Apparently we're getting CogAT this week

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My extremely verbal, advanced reader, but average math student child scored in the 7th stanine on the verbal and 9th in the other two categories, with overall composite of 9th stanine/99 percent. Not at all what I would have predicted and I find it kind of hard to believe.

Oh well. Not sure it makes any particular difference going in to third.

What is a stanine? What is the difference between 7th and 9th? Is that like a declile - so it's 70th percentile vs 90th percentile? - Parent of 1st grader interested in this for next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My extremely verbal, advanced reader, but average math student child scored in the 7th stanine on the verbal and 9th in the other two categories, with overall composite of 9th stanine/99 percent. Not at all what I would have predicted and I find it kind of hard to believe.

Oh well. Not sure it makes any particular difference going in to third.

What is a stanine? What is the difference between 7th and 9th? Is that like a declile - so it's 70th percentile vs 90th percentile? - Parent of 1st grader interested in this for next year.

Stanines are a weird standard deviation/bell-curve-based measure, so they're not equal. Foe example 9 is 96th-99th percentile, 8 is 89th-95th, 7 is 77th-88th, and so on. But honestly stanines are just jargon, you don't really need to know about them, they list the actual percentile for everything as well and MCPS doesn't use the stanines for anything.

[Anonymous]

Bizarre. 98 pct cogat for my kid who wasn’t identified for the lottery pool for CES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bizarre. 98 pct cogat for my kid who wasn’t identified for the lottery pool for CES.

What were their MAP scores

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid is finishing 2nd and has been consistently testing at 99th percentile on all the MAP testing. This is his first CogAT report, his overall percentile is 99, all the stanines are 9s, and it says his profile is 9A.

Forgive the basic question, but are there things we should be advocating for at school? As far as we can tell enrichment is a joke and he’s not being challenged. We do supplemental math for fun at home because he loves it and he’s almost through 3rd grade content. He’s our oldest and the MCPS system is new to me. I want to support him & advocate for him in order to keep him engaged and to encourage a love for learning.

My advice to you is tutor and have your kid apply to TJ or Poolesville in High School. MCPS watered down it's G/T programs to be "equitable" versus "equal". In other words, MCPS no longer selects the best-of-the-best, which is why the brightest kids apply to TJ (in Virginia) and are even bussed by MCPS school buses. Poolesville is nationally ranked, but can't hold a candle to TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is finishing 2nd and has been consistently testing at 99th percentile on all the MAP testing. This is his first CogAT report, his overall percentile is 99, all the stanines are 9s, and it says his profile is 9A.

Forgive the basic question, but are there things we should be advocating for at school? As far as we can tell enrichment is a joke and he’s not being challenged. We do supplemental math for fun at home because he loves it and he’s almost through 3rd grade content. He’s our oldest and the MCPS system is new to me. I want to support him & advocate for him in order to keep him engaged and to encourage a love for learning.

My advice to you is tutor and have your kid apply to TJ or Poolesville in High School. MCPS watered down it's G/T programs to be "equitable" versus "equal". In other words, MCPS no longer selects the best-of-the-best, which is why the brightest kids apply to TJ (in Virginia) and are even bussed by MCPS school buses. Poolesville is nationally ranked, but can't hold a candle to TJ.

Kid live in Montgomery county can apply to TJ in Virginia and they provide free bus transportation??? I hear this the first time. I thought TJ is a public high school for Virginia kid only.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is finishing 2nd and has been consistently testing at 99th percentile on all the MAP testing. This is his first CogAT report, his overall percentile is 99, all the stanines are 9s, and it says his profile is 9A.

Forgive the basic question, but are there things we should be advocating for at school? As far as we can tell enrichment is a joke and he’s not being challenged. We do supplemental math for fun at home because he loves it and he’s almost through 3rd grade content. He’s our oldest and the MCPS system is new to me. I want to support him & advocate for him in order to keep him engaged and to encourage a love for learning.

My advice to you is tutor and have your kid apply to TJ or Poolesville in High School. MCPS watered down it's G/T programs to be "equitable" versus "equal". In other words, MCPS no longer selects the best-of-the-best, which is why the brightest kids apply to TJ (in Virginia) and are even bussed by MCPS school buses. Poolesville is nationally ranked, but can't hold a candle to TJ.

https://www.fcps.edu/registration/thomas-jefferson-admissions/eligibility-requirements

You need to live in one of the NoVA school divisions for TJ eligibility

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bizarre. 98 pct cogat for my kid who wasn’t identified for the lottery pool for CES.

NP - our DC also had 98 cogat and not in CES lottery pool. MAP scores in low 90s. Low FARMS ES. We’re hoping for compacted math in 4th…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bizarre. 98 pct cogat for my kid who wasn’t identified for the lottery pool for CES.

Cogat is not the only factor. Maybe they had weaker map-r or district assessment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bizarre. 98 pct cogat for my kid who wasn’t identified for the lottery pool for CES.

Cogat is not the only factor. Maybe they had weaker map-r or district assessment.

CoGAT wasn’t considered at all for this years CES placements. Only MAP-R and grades

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid is finishing 2nd and has been consistently testing at 99th percentile on all the MAP testing. This is his first CogAT report, his overall percentile is 99, all the stanines are 9s, and it says his profile is 9A.

Forgive the basic question, but are there things we should be advocating for at school? As far as we can tell enrichment is a joke and he’s not being challenged. We do supplemental math for fun at home because he loves it and he’s almost through 3rd grade content. He’s our oldest and the MCPS system is new to me. I want to support him & advocate for him in order to keep him engaged and to encourage a love for learning.

My advice to you is tutor and have your kid apply to TJ or Poolesville in High School. MCPS watered down it's G/T programs to be "equitable" versus "equal". In other words, MCPS no longer selects the best-of-the-best, which is why the brightest kids apply to TJ (in Virginia) and are even bussed by MCPS school buses. Poolesville is nationally ranked, but can't hold a candle to TJ.

I mean, if you're going to troll at least make it believable.
Y'all NoVa folks aren't too bright.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bizarre. 98 pct cogat for my kid who wasn’t identified for the lottery pool for CES.

Cogat is not the only factor. Maybe they had weaker map-r or district assessment.

CogAT is not a factor at all for CES. It's only based on grades + MAP.

CogAT is used for GT identificaiton only -- and that doesn't relate to admissions to CES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bizarre. 98 pct cogat for my kid who wasn’t identified for the lottery pool for CES.

Cogat is not the only factor. Maybe they had weaker map-r or district assessment.

CogAT is not a factor at all for CES. It's only based on grades + MAP.

CogAT is used for GT identificaiton only -- and that doesn't relate to admissions to CES.

At least this year. CoGAT was used in the past and I imagine will be reinstated for the CES in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bizarre. 98 pct cogat for my kid who wasn’t identified for the lottery pool for CES.

Cogat is not the only factor. Maybe they had weaker map-r or district assessment.

CogAT is not a factor at all for CES. It's only based on grades + MAP.

CogAT is used for GT identificaiton only -- and that doesn't relate to admissions to CES.

At least this year. CoGAT was used in the past and I imagine will be reinstated for the CES in the future.

The office that runs CES and the office that runs GT designation are different. You are presuming a level of coordination that doesn't exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bizarre. 98 pct cogat for my kid who wasn’t identified for the lottery pool for CES.

Cogat is not the only factor. Maybe they had weaker map-r or district assessment.

CogAT is not a factor at all for CES. It's only based on grades + MAP.

CogAT is used for GT identificaiton only -- and that doesn't relate to admissions to CES.

At least this year. CoGAT was used in the past and I imagine will be reinstated for the CES in the future.

The office that runs CES and the office that runs GT designation are different. You are presuming a level of coordination that doesn't exist.

Both have access to the same test scores. I don't see why they wouldn't use CoGAT in the future for placement