Harvard Report on Israel/Palestine/Jew/Arab conflict on campus

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The doxxing was terrible and destroyed many Muslim and Arab students’ nascent careers simply because they signed a letter:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/us/harvard-students-israel-hamas-doxxing.html

Any person who argues that Jewish student at Harvard got the shorter end of the stick vs Muslims at Harvard is:
1) a troll
2) has never set foot in the Yard

Awwww. Poor terrorist supporters.

I’m sorry to say but you are the terrorist supporter if you support the state of Israel. It’s apartheid state that enacts genocidal violence against an indigenous people including little children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The doxxing was terrible and destroyed many Muslim and Arab students’ nascent careers simply because they signed a letter:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/us/harvard-students-israel-hamas-doxxing.html

Any person who argues that Jewish student at Harvard got the shorter end of the stick vs Muslims at Harvard is:
1) a troll
2) has never set foot in the Yard

Awwww. Poor terrorist supporters.

I’m sorry to say but you are the terrorist supporter if you support the state of Israel. It’s apartheid state that enacts genocidal violence against an indigenous people including little children.

Jews are indigenous to Israel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When did Americans become so invested in foreign events? The fact that these two reports even exist is proof that foreign interference has corrupted American culture. This is a non-issue on both sides, demanding the other is eliminated, and it’s very very embarrassing

+1. This is the rational approach, but if you say it now you get cancelled for antisemitism. I cannot take American Jews seriously when most of their anger is our lack of investment in a topic that has nothing to do with our country and an inability to recognize genocide that we pour billions into. We are being asked to compromise safety, privacy and security all for...Israel flags on our colleges and single viewpoints allowed on college campuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The doxxing was terrible and destroyed many Muslim and Arab students’ nascent careers simply because they signed a letter:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/us/harvard-students-israel-hamas-doxxing.html

Any person who argues that Jewish student at Harvard got the shorter end of the stick vs Muslims at Harvard is:
1) a troll
2) has never set foot in the Yard

Awwww. Poor terrorist supporters.

I’m sorry to say but you are the terrorist supporter if you support the state of Israel. It’s apartheid state that enacts genocidal violence against an indigenous people including little children.

Jews are indigenous to Israel.

Most are indigenous to Eastern Europe, at best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The posted article references one incident where a drink was allegedly poured on a student wearing a keffeyeh. Most of the evidence summarized relates to hurt and upset feelings. And feelings of not being able to speak opinions freely. The answer provided is to hire more Arabs and work more on feelings.

Somehow I doubt that is the answer.

Can you imagine the outcry if it had been poured on a Jewish student? We’d be hearing about it and there would be classes, and rule changes and pucblic reports about disciplinary actions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When did Americans become so invested in foreign events? The fact that these two reports even exist is proof that foreign interference has corrupted American culture. This is a non-issue on both sides, demanding the other is eliminated, and it’s very very embarrassing

+1. This is the rational approach, but if you say it now you get cancelled for antisemitism. I cannot take American Jews seriously when most of their anger is our lack of investment in a topic that has nothing to do with our country and an inability to recognize genocide that we pour billions into. We are being asked to compromise safety, privacy and security all for...Israel flags on our colleges and single viewpoints allowed on college campuses.

don't even try it, you are not clever, you want us to invest in destroying Israel to make Palestinians and Iran happy. so, yes, you have an investment in foreign events, and the American far left is your unwitting flunky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When did Americans become so invested in foreign events? The fact that these two reports even exist is proof that foreign interference has corrupted American culture. This is a non-issue on both sides, demanding the other is eliminated, and it’s very very embarrassing

+1. This is the rational approach, but if you say it now you get cancelled for antisemitism. I cannot take American Jews seriously when most of their anger is our lack of investment in a topic that has nothing to do with our country and an inability to recognize genocide that we pour billions into. We are being asked to compromise safety, privacy and security all for...Israel flags on our colleges and single viewpoints allowed on college campuses.

Why this statement is taking a side
Even if the speaker frames their position as “rational” or neutral, the language and framing make it clear they are taking a critical stance. Here’s how:

1. Dismissal of an entire group’s concerns
“I cannot take American Jews seriously when…”

This is a sweeping generalization that dismisses a whole group's feelings or concerns as invalid or not worth engaging with — that is a clear side-taking, against those concerns.

2. Framing U.S. involvement as illegitimate and foreign
“…our lack of investment in a topic that has nothing to do with our country”

This statement frames the issue (support of Israel) as irrelevant and implies it is inappropriate for Americans to care about it. That’s a clear position — that U.S. involvement/support is unjustified.

3. Framing aid as complicit in wrongdoing
“…an inability to recognize genocide that we pour billions into”

This directly accuses the U.S. (and, implicitly, Israel) of enabling genocide — a strong, accusatory position.

4. Asserting harms to Americans as a result of this support
“We are being asked to compromise safety, privacy and security all for…Israel flags on our colleges”

This explicitly frames U.S. support for Israel (or pro-Israel advocacy) as directly harming Americans’ rights and safety, positioning the speaker in opposition to that advocacy and to those who support it.

Summary
The statement takes a side by:
✅ Dismissing the legitimacy of American Jewish concerns
✅ Framing U.S. support for Israel as unjustified and harmful
✅ Accusing pro-Israel advocacy of threatening American freedoms
✅ Asserting U.S. complicity in genocide

Even though the speaker claims rationality, the loaded language, accusations, and framing clearly align them against pro-Israel positions and against American Jewish advocates of those positions.

Key point
You are taking a side anytime you invalidate, dismiss, or strongly critique one position — even if you call your stance “rational” or “neutral.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The doxxing was terrible and destroyed many Muslim and Arab students’ nascent careers simply because they signed a letter:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/us/harvard-students-israel-hamas-doxxing.html

Any person who argues that Jewish student at Harvard got the shorter end of the stick vs Muslims at Harvard is:
1) a troll
2) has never set foot in the Yard

Anyone who signed that idiotic letter deserved to lose their job offers.

Similarly, anyone who right wing idiot who signed a letter proclaiming “George Floyd got what he deserved” would rightly lose career opportunities.

Life lesson: don’t issue public statements in support of terrorists or Nazis.

If you choose to ignore this lesson, most people won’t want to associate with you.

[Anonymous]

The Israeli vote to annex Gaza and expel l Palestinians makes undeniable obvious that, whether they like it or not, and whether they accept this truth or not, all those who defended Israel over the last 19 months functioned as advocates for a colonial genocide. It's that simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Israeli vote to annex Gaza and expel l Palestinians makes undeniable obvious that, whether they like it or not, and whether they accept this truth or not, all those who defended Israel over the last 19 months functioned as advocates for a colonial genocide. It's that simple.

You claim people knowingly supported something even if they explicitly didn’t and assign intent or awareness to people regardless of their actual beliefs or positions, and you assumes as fact something that is still contested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Israeli vote to annex Gaza and expel l Palestinians makes undeniable obvious that, whether they like it or not, and whether they accept this truth or not, all those who defended Israel over the last 19 months functioned as advocates for a colonial genocide. It's that simple.

Oooh, this is a fun game. Let me try:

-Hamas is the elected government of Palestine and numerous polls have shown that Hamas enjoys widespread support among Palestinians

-Hamas is a surrogate of Iran

-Iran’s leadership also expressly supports Hezbollah, which has launched numerous attacks against US citizens and military personnel, killing hundreds of Americans.

Ergo, anyone who supports Palestinians supports terrorism and violence against Americans.

Is that how your logic works?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The doxxing was terrible and destroyed many Muslim and Arab students’ nascent careers simply because they signed a letter:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/us/harvard-students-israel-hamas-doxxing.html

Any person who argues that Jewish student at Harvard got the shorter end of the stick vs Muslims at Harvard is:
1) a troll
2) has never set foot in the Yard

Awwww. Poor terrorist supporters.

I’m sorry to say but you are the terrorist supporter if you support the state of Israel. It’s apartheid state that enacts genocidal violence against an indigenous people including little children.

Jews are indigenous to Israel.

Most are indigenous to Eastern Europe, at best.

Nope.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Israeli vote to annex Gaza and expel l Palestinians makes undeniable obvious that, whether they like it or not, and whether they accept this truth or not, all those who defended Israel over the last 19 months functioned as advocates for a colonial genocide. It's that simple.

Oooh, this is a fun game. Let me try:

-Hamas is the elected government of Palestine and numerous polls have shown that Hamas enjoys widespread support among Palestinians

-Hamas is a surrogate of Iran

-Iran’s leadership also expressly supports Hezbollah, which has launched numerous attacks against US citizens and military personnel, killing hundreds of Americans.

Ergo, anyone who supports Palestinians supports terrorism and violence against Americans.

Is that how your logic works?

Palestinians have not been allowed to vote since 2006, in part because the Israeli government decided it was better to play nice with Hamas leadership in Qatar than to extend basic human rights to Palestinians in Gaza.

In the meantime, Israel has held a series of free and fair elections in which they have chosen a bloodthirsty nationalist regime over and over and over again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When did Americans become so invested in foreign events? The fact that these two reports even exist is proof that foreign interference has corrupted American culture. This is a non-issue on both sides, demanding the other is eliminated, and it’s very very embarrassing

+1. This is the rational approach, but if you say it now you get cancelled for antisemitism. I cannot take American Jews seriously when most of their anger is our lack of investment in a topic that has nothing to do with our country and an inability to recognize genocide that we pour billions into. We are being asked to compromise safety, privacy and security all for...Israel flags on our colleges and single viewpoints allowed on college campuses.

Why this statement is taking a side
Even if the speaker frames their position as “rational” or neutral, the language and framing make it clear they are taking a critical stance. Here’s how:

1. Dismissal of an entire group’s concerns
“I cannot take American Jews seriously when…”

This is a sweeping generalization that dismisses a whole group's feelings or concerns as invalid or not worth engaging with — that is a clear side-taking, against those concerns.

2. Framing U.S. involvement as illegitimate and foreign
“…our lack of investment in a topic that has nothing to do with our country”

This statement frames the issue (support of Israel) as irrelevant and implies it is inappropriate for Americans to care about it. That’s a clear position — that U.S. involvement/support is unjustified.

3. Framing aid as complicit in wrongdoing
“…an inability to recognize genocide that we pour billions into”

This directly accuses the U.S. (and, implicitly, Israel) of enabling genocide — a strong, accusatory position.

4. Asserting harms to Americans as a result of this support
“We are being asked to compromise safety, privacy and security all for…Israel flags on our colleges”

This explicitly frames U.S. support for Israel (or pro-Israel advocacy) as directly harming Americans’ rights and safety, positioning the speaker in opposition to that advocacy and to those who support it.

Summary
The statement takes a side by:
✅ Dismissing the legitimacy of American Jewish concerns
✅ Framing U.S. support for Israel as unjustified and harmful
✅ Accusing pro-Israel advocacy of threatening American freedoms
✅ Asserting U.S. complicity in genocide

Even though the speaker claims rationality, the loaded language, accusations, and framing clearly align them against pro-Israel positions and against American Jewish advocates of those positions.

Key point
You are taking a side anytime you invalidate, dismiss, or strongly critique one position — even if you call your stance “rational” or “neutral.”

US involvement in Israel is unjustified. Israel is a sovereign nation that shouldn't have more national security investment from America than America itself. People have been using the Israel-palestine conflict to get rid of our fundamental freedoms-that's a fact. And yes, slaughtering a group of people and bombing their universities is GENOCIDE, get over yourself. It's fine if you support that genocide for whatever reason, but asserting it as some necessity for Israeli existence is BS and an idiotic viewpoint from the Netanyahu playbook.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The doxxing was terrible and destroyed many Muslim and Arab students’ nascent careers simply because they signed a letter:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/us/harvard-students-israel-hamas-doxxing.html

Any person who argues that Jewish student at Harvard got the shorter end of the stick vs Muslims at Harvard is:
1) a troll
2) has never set foot in the Yard

Awwww. Poor terrorist supporters.

I’m sorry to say but you are the terrorist supporter if you support the state of Israel. It’s apartheid state that enacts genocidal violence against an indigenous people including little children.

Jews are indigenous to Israel.

Most are indigenous to Eastern Europe, at best.

Nope.

yep. Eastern Europe is the birthplace of millions of jews.