Harvard tell Trump to pound sand

Anonymous
Yes, but MIT makes things that are useful, Harvard only does policy research. If Harvard isn't going to produce any research that is usefult to this administration, why should we fund it?

Harvard, was involved with the discovery of insulin medication, first kidney transplant, gene therapies, etc.

Maga requires proof via middle school poster board form. I don’t have time for that.

“A group of researchers from the University of Missouri, Georgia Institute of Technology, and Harvard University has proved the successful use of a novel Type 1 diabetes treatment.

Their method includes transferring insulin-producing pancreas cells, known as pancreatic islets, from a donor to a recipient without the need for long-term immunosuppressive medicines.” https://scitechdaily.com/harvard-scientists-have-developed-a-revolutionary-new-treatment-for-diabetes/

Harvard has been significantly involved in advancements related to insulin, kidney transplants, and gene therapies, though not directly involved in the discovery of insulin itself.

Joseph Murray, an emeritus professor of surgery at Harvard Medical School, is credited with performing the first successful human kidney transplant.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. It will save us tax dollars.


agree, I never realized how much money is given to Ivy League schools , elite schools that should never be subsidized by taxpayers

how the elites justify this is beyond me.


Are you just playing dumb or do you really not know how the U.S. researches pretty much everything it needs to research?


Or they’re being paid to influence the conversation?


That’s idiotic. Research, and research labs are very expensive. Harvard has top notch research labs. It’s easier and cheaper for them to subsidize these than study everything in government labs. This admin probably just wants to cut research, which will have very real effects on research for diseases that impact society.


Harvard labs suck and don't produce enough talent. We have to import talent for everything. Maybe if they trained half the people, they rejected that were qualified. Maybe if they were better all the talent would be motivated to study science instead of wealth management.


Are you really that naive to thibj that we can compete with a country that has 4x the population size without importing talent. China has around 300 million people with an IQ of 115+, we only have 56 million people with 115+ IQs. China also has a much proportion of college grads obtaining STEM degrees. You need a minimum IQ of around 130 to be capable of completing a organic chemistry doctorate or biophysics doctorate. Most of the highly successful researchers at elite schools in these STEM fields have an IQ of 145+. There frankly aren't enough people in the US to stay competitive with a country that has 4x the population. IQ is mostly genetic and environment cannot make someone with a low genetic propensity for IQ a genius.
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Anonymous wrote:Good. It will save us tax dollars.


agree, I never realized how much money is given to Ivy League schools , elite schools that should never be subsidized by taxpayers

how the elites justify this is beyond me.


Are you just playing dumb or do you really not know how the U.S. researches pretty much everything it needs to research?


Or they’re being paid to influence the conversation?


That’s idiotic. Research, and research labs are very expensive. Harvard has top notch research labs. It’s easier and cheaper for them to subsidize these than study everything in government labs. This admin probably just wants to cut research, which will have very real effects on research for diseases that impact society.


Harvard labs suck and don't produce enough talent. We have to import talent for everything. Maybe if they trained half the people, they rejected that were qualified. Maybe if they were better all the talent would be motivated to study science instead of wealth management.


Would you like to provide a link to support this assertion?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good. It will save us tax dollars.


agree, I never realized how much money is given to Ivy League schools , elite schools that should never be subsidized by taxpayers

how the elites justify this is beyond me.


Are you just playing dumb or do you really not know how the U.S. researches pretty much everything it needs to research?


Or they’re being paid to influence the conversation?


That’s idiotic. Research, and research labs are very expensive. Harvard has top notch research labs. It’s easier and cheaper for them to subsidize these than study everything in government labs. This admin probably just wants to cut research, which will have very real effects on research for diseases that impact society.


Harvard labs suck and don't produce enough talent. We have to import talent for everything. Maybe if they trained half the people, they rejected that were qualified. Maybe if they were better all the talent would be motivated to study science instead of wealth management.


Would you like to provide a link to support this assertion?


You haven't followed the news. Maybe you try using Google.
Anonymous
The point is that the govt of the US - boasting how Democratic it is - should be funding all R&D out of major educational institutions esp the likes of Ivy League schools where the caliber of brainpower is higher than most.

The point is not how productive or effective Harvard is in creating x number of things but that it employs the process of scientific research because it does impact, it does effect, it does ultimately result in improvements and developments that prove useful for all of us. This is how science works!

Kinda like - just because you go to a top private school of uber smart and talented leaders, you may not become one yourself, but it does make you better and it makes you have a greater chance of shaping out to be one yourself because that's your environment. It's all good. None of it is bad.

To cut funding for higher ed research on any front is senseless. This is science and the process of studying and developing should not be shut down ever. It's not about having a private grant but about the government who represents all citizens of our country contributing to this cause.

This is pretty much why I've given up completely on this country. That we could even be at his level - have a situation where people would elect this psycho weirdo idiot and approve of his entire administration - this is a testament to something in our culture and society being broken beyond repair. We can shout about how great US wants to be or was but we are no longer and will not be moving forward.

It's disgusting that people would not support government funded research/science in their own country.
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This is a transformative opportunity to shift R&D money from top privates to top publics permanently and improve public education with public funds.

Harvards can do whatever they want with their own billions.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a transformative opportunity to shift R&D money from top privates to top publics permanently and improve public education with public funds.

Harvards can do whatever they want with their own billions.


They cut that funding too.
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Anonymous wrote:This is a transformative opportunity to shift R&D money from top privates to top publics permanently and improve public education with public funds.

Harvards can do whatever they want with their own billions.


Can you share your feel-good drugs with the rest of us who are paying attention?

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Anonymous wrote:Good. It will save us tax dollars.


Yes, why do we even sponsor research at Harvard? Let's just say science isn't their strong point anyway. No one goes to Harvard to get a science degree. No one.


????? Harvard has been a world leader in political science studies for a hundred years. You're an idiot. Trump just doesn't want political scientists explaining to Americans how stupid they are for thinking people as old as he and his crony Biden should be the most powerful person in the world.
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Anonymous wrote:My theory is Trump is trying to punish schools which wouldn't accept him or his kids for undergrad


I agree! His dad bought a seat at Penn for Trump as a transfer loser from Fordham. Harvard said no.
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Anonymous wrote:Harvard refuses to capitulate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/us/harvard-trump-reject-demands.html?unlocked_article_code=1._k4.idC2.ERp74pm7qHbc&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


With an endowment of over 50 Billion, why would it?


And why would it take federal money when it has so much? I’ve never understood this. Taking federal money comes with strings.
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Anonymous wrote:Harvard refuses to capitulate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/us/harvard-trump-reject-demands.html?unlocked_article_code=1._k4.idC2.ERp74pm7qHbc&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


With an endowment of over 50 Billion, why would it?


And why would it take federal money when it has so much? I’ve never understood this. Taking federal money comes with strings.


+1 I'd rather see my tax dollars go elsewhere for research.
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Anonymous wrote:Harvard refuses to capitulate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/us/harvard-trump-reject-demands.html?unlocked_article_code=1._k4.idC2.ERp74pm7qHbc&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare


With an endowment of over 50 Billion, why would it?


And why would it take federal money when it has so much? I’ve never understood this. Taking federal money comes with strings.


+1 I'd rather see my tax dollars go elsewhere for research.


LOL. Trump cut federal funding for all kinds of research, including on cancer and the environment.
Anonymous
^^ through federal agencies
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Anonymous wrote:Has Harvard stopped its racial discrimination?


WTF are you going on about? This is about the RWNJs dictating what will be taught, who will teach it, what can not be taught and who can attend Harvard. This is Mao Tse-tung thought police and you are Trumps Red Guard.


Wow. So, this is how democracy does in darkness. Criticism of only one party is allowed. Proof that goose steppers also vote blue and wear blue.
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