why is Case Western NOT popular among private school kids

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Anonymous wrote:I swear, the name puts people off. I know it has a good reputation, but it never has the "buzz" that a lot of comparable schools have.

THIS^

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's the name. The name sucks

Is Case really worse than Brown, Yale, or Smith? And as for the rest....

"The Western Reserve was a large tract of land, approximately 120 miles wide, in northeastern Ohio, reserved by Connecticut when it ceded its western land claims to the US government after the Revolutionary War. It was "reserved" as a way to compensate Connecticut citizens for their losses during the war and also to attract settlers from New England."

My great-grandma went to Western Reserve before it merged with Case. They allowed women to enroll prior to 1900. Unlike many Ivies.

The issue is that the U.S. let the industrial heartland wither, which has led to scorn being heaped on the large cities of the Rust Belt. Many of these places were quite normal places to live in the 1930s-60s.

Great insight!

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Case and it's a very STEM (specifically engineering) heavy school.

Private high schools don't send many kids to study engineering (at any college) because of the salaries. My kids attend a well-regarded private and the wealthy by-in-large have kids who go into finance or law. Engineering is viewed as a stable but middle to upper middle class career. Sure, some engineers combine their scientific knowledge with business (or law) and make a ton of money but most do not.

It's been interesting to observe all of this as someone who did not grow up with any sort of money.

Case is mainly regarded as a premed school.

Not so much on the engineering side.

When I was there it seemed heavily engineering. This was 30 years ago.


Regardless, the same thinking applies. Medicine is increasingly seen as a middle class to upper middle class profession as well.
If you go to Sidwell or Dalton or Andover there are very few parents who are physicians. The average physician in the US makes like $300K.
That is bottom 10% of the non-aid kids at Sidwell and pretty much poverty wages at Dalton.

You are smoking too much hooka. Doctors make good salaries. Depending on your specialty, that could be a great salary. I view doctors as pre professionals that are close to the 1 percent or in the 1 percent. Consultants, lawyers (big law) and investment bankers and VCs make more. But I would not look down on doctors at all.

My kid is premed and the profession is definitely one that is white collared.

doctors have the highest salary of any profession. You're comparing the top 5% of lawyers to all doctors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's the name. The name sucks

Is Case really worse than Brown, Yale, or Smith? And as for the rest....

I mean it is ranked #52 among Engineering Schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ehh.
The wealthy kids are getting some $$$ down the road from parents. They know the way to make real generational wealth in this country isn’t as a worker bee (e.g., engineer working hard for that measly paycheck).
They use the IB finance gig to move to PE to move to PC or Infra, where they’ll eventually get carry. They know what you don’t.

But keep on being a worker bee.

Umm...we are UHNW and no family money on either side. We do what we love, and our kids are also able to do what they love, because they know money isn't everything (and yes, they will have a healthy inheritance that we will start gifting/giving in their 20s so it impacts their live trajectory).

Right. You proved my point (also UHNW btw)....
Silly.

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Case is in Cleveland. That is the answer. It is sort of like Wash U. Great school in a less desirable city.

I am not from DC and we know two kids that go there. One plays a sport. Another is there because it was his safety.

Even with aid it is still expensive compared with state schools.

[Anonymous]

Have you visited? If so you’d know why it’s not popular.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's the name. The name sucks

Is Case really worse than Brown, Yale, or Smith? And as for the rest....

I mean it is ranked #52 among Engineering Schools.

PP. The discussion here was about the name, not what the ranking is. It was asserted the name was the problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Case and it's a very STEM (specifically engineering) heavy school.

Private high schools don't send many kids to study engineering (at any college) because of the salaries. My kids attend a well-regarded private and the wealthy by-in-large have kids who go into finance or law. Engineering is viewed as a stable but middle to upper middle class career. Sure, some engineers combine their scientific knowledge with business (or law) and make a ton of money but most do not.

It's been interesting to observe all of this as someone who did not grow up with any sort of money.

Case is mainly regarded as a premed school.

Not so much on the engineering side.

When I was there it seemed heavily engineering. This was 30 years ago.


Regardless, the same thinking applies. Medicine is increasingly seen as a middle class to upper middle class profession as well.
If you go to Sidwell or Dalton or Andover there are very few parents who are physicians. The average physician in the US makes like $300K.
That is bottom 10% of the non-aid kids at Sidwell and pretty much poverty wages at Dalton.

You are smoking too much hooka. Doctors make good salaries. Depending on your specialty, that could be a great salary. I view doctors as pre professionals that are close to the 1 percent or in the 1 percent. Consultants, lawyers (big law) and investment bankers and VCs make more. But I would not look down on doctors at all.

My kid is premed and the profession is definitely one that is white collared.

doctors have the highest salary of any profession. You're comparing the top 5% of lawyers to all doctors.

I think that part of it is regional as well. A tech worker in the bay area who moves up the chain will easily out earn a typical doctor in the bay area.

[Anonymous]

Very few coastal private school kids want to live in Ohio of all places. if they're going to a tier 2/3 college, then just ED to Tulane and enjoy New Orleans, warm weather, and Mardi Gras.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you visited? If so you’d know why it’s not popular.

I have visited (not PP) and I was pleasantly surprised and liked it a lot more than I was expecting.
However, it was not the best fit for my kid. It ended up being their 2nd choice after all acceptances were in, but the first choice was just a much better fit.
But Case gave excellent merit and if we were not easy Full pay, my kid would be at case.

But it's largely STEM/Engineering/Premed and not as much NOT that. So it's a bit nerdy of a school and the city is very urban. You are in the heart of the city with the campus divided by a busy road.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My private school kid applied to CWRU, received significant merit, and it is in her final 3 (no final decision yet). It jumped up the list a bit with the February admitted students day (DC loved the snow, the University Circle area, and Little Italy) and the merit award.

DC is not pre-med, but I think for a pre-med kid it would be an excellent choice.

It really is! My pre-med sophomore at CWRU has already accrued about 36 shadowing hours at both The Cleveland Clinic and UH Hospital which he can pretty much walk to from campus. He will be volunteering at the Cleveland Clinic next year which will check another med school application box.

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Anonymous wrote:Prestige or lack thereof.

Oh Lord, this is silly. Case Western is a well known, excellent school.

I know for some students, Case doesn't make the list because (although it is an excellent school), it doesn't have the traditional upbeat peppy sportsy vibe of many colleges. My kid thought it didn't seem fun. A little nerdy. I think that'll be a great fit for my other kid, but I think it doesn't make some lists because of the STEM-y culture (which has its upsides and downsides!).

This is spot on. Not at all a sport rah-rah school but leans more into the STEM nerd vibe. The students at Case are smart and extremely driven towards goals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I went to Case and it's a very STEM (specifically engineering) heavy school.

Private high schools don't send many kids to study engineering (at any college) because of the salaries. My kids attend a well-regarded private and the wealthy by-in-large have kids who go into finance or law. Engineering is viewed as a stable but middle to upper middle class career. Sure, some engineers combine their scientific knowledge with business (or law) and make a ton of money but most do not.

It's been interesting to observe all of this as someone who did not grow up with any sort of money.

Case is mainly regarded as a premed school.

Not so much on the engineering side.

Engineering is only second to pre-med/health sciences at Case

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My STEM-leaning junior daughter is not considering it because she wants a more diverse part of the country. She has gone to private school with mostly whites all her life and wants to live in a place where there is a lot of ethnic diversity.

Have you looked closely at CWRU? It is quite diverse.