Exactly. To think that it’s ok to get pedicures, shoppings and other errands done while working from home is outrageous. If you want to be getting that six figure salary, your butt better be in the office all day M-F. Not shopping at Costco while on “conference call”. |
Hi boomer. I see you never made it past middle management in your career. |
How plebeian. I don’t sneak out of conference calls like a loser. I tell my manager and team I’ll be away from my laptop between X-Y. I check email and IM notifications once in a while, and if anything comes up that can’t wait until I’m back, I reply from my phone and loop in a team member as needed. Otherwise I reply when I’m back. |
I’m the PP who runs errands, a millennial, and actually in middle management. I think this poster never made it out of entry-level jobs where you do, in fact, need your butt in the seat and instant responsiveness. |
That’s the sahms for you! Whining and complaining how hard it is, making “running errands” into a day long to do list. And now upset other people are also shopping? Lol. |
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20 years ago, my large tech company ~130,000 started every other Friday off, then moved to 4/10's if you wanted. Managers said it allowed employees to do appointments on Fridays.
It worked well for about 5 years. Then all the Drs and Dentists started closing up on Fridays. So much for that corporate idea! I still loved having Fridays off tho. When we were on 9/80 and worked every other Friday, I never scheduled a meeting for a working Friday. But if you had to, it had better be before noon. Many eyerolls to the fools who scheduled a 3pm meeting on a working Friday. |
| Dunno about everyone else but a lot of federal government workers choose a schedule where they work 10 hours a day, 4 days a week. |
I think posts like this are why there was resentment against feds working from home. If it is your work day, it is not your errand day. |
Anyone spending their workday at Homegoods and the nail salon probably needs in office supervision. |
Keep making up stuff to complain about. |
Tell that to our AG. |
And yet without those people you would not have your easy remote jobs of “managers” |
| So if you have noticed this, you can adjust your errands accordingly. No need to know other people’s work schedules to do that. |
and yet PP is not a fed. That's you believing that to support your delusions. |
Entry-level / performer jobs are critical, do indeed require butt-in-seat and facetime, and are a great learning experience. Typically they are taken by younger people during a time in their lives when they don’t have family responsibilities and the 9-5 requirement isn’t a huge hardship. I myself put in my dues for many years. What I am realizing many people on this thread don’t understand is that some of us eventually graduate to more thinking-type roles. We are evaluated based on how well we solve client problems, navigate the org internally, develop our team, etc. This thinking often happens out of 9-5 and if you count up the number of hours I actually spend thinking about work (including logging in at night when needed), it’s waaaaaay more than 40! So I have no qualms about taking a few of those hours back during critical portions of the day/week in order to set up a great work-life balance for myself. It meaningfully improves my job and life satisfaction which makes me do even better at work, so my employer also benefits. I realize you’ll just reply to this long post with a snarky one-liner, but it’s actually meant for other women who are interested in increasing their work-life balance. The fact that some WFHers cheat their org by moving their mouse around in between grocery run and school pick-up has no bearing on me. Orgs should set up good performance management to recognize and fire those people. But if one is talented and delivers, they often can and should demand more flexibility if they want it. And if employers are smart they will provide it, at least to people who’ve proven themselves. |