Catholic instead of Public

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:the troll who thinks Catholic schools in the dmv are the same as tiny southern Bible schools teaching dinosaurs aren’t real is exhausting.

The Catholic schools in the area often do a better job at ensure their students understand math concepts and place them according to ability vs accelerating every possible student while leaving major gaps.

Yeah, that's why Catholic schools are known to dominate math competitions.
NOT...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the troll who thinks Catholic schools in the dmv are the same as tiny southern Bible schools teaching dinosaurs aren’t real is exhausting.

The Catholic schools in the area often do a better job at ensure their students understand math concepts and place them according to ability vs accelerating every possible student while leaving major gaps.

Yeah, that's why Catholic schools are known to dominate math competitions.
NOT...

Math competitions have nothing to do with the high schools, it’s all parents paying for RSM and AOPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the troll who thinks Catholic schools in the dmv are the same as tiny southern Bible schools teaching dinosaurs aren’t real is exhausting.

The Catholic schools in the area often do a better job at ensure their students understand math concepts and place them according to ability vs accelerating every possible student while leaving major gaps.

Yeah, that's why Catholic schools are known to dominate math competitions.
NOT...

One thing is clear - you’re winning the crazy competition.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I actually question the same thing. In this area the cohort that attend public and private is much the same, upper middle class parents who at least the majority are invested in their kids education.

I live in an area like what you describe, and I wonder if most parents really know what the school day is like. I do, because I've volunteered a lot at my child's school, worked part time in a different elementary school in the same district. I have read the district curriculum guides.

Here's what I have seen: There are a small number of kids - maybe 2-3 in my kid's class of 17, not sure of other grades - that are a problem daily. Most of school is structured around getting these kids to comply by cajoling, pleading, setting up elaborate rewards systems, and giving junk incentives like toys, youtube videos, using the ipad apps, and Disney movie viewings. The whole class watches movies, Lego cooking videos, lines up to turn in tickets from the teacher's "store" every single week (all time taken out of instructional time). I'm moving my kid to an environment where kids are hopefully just expected to learn. Most children like to learn and they should be in an environment that promotes that. Catholic schools can do that, because they can still dole our reach consequences, including expulsion. Public school doesn't care about my kid's experience, since he is already above grade level and they need to deal with the 2-3 problem kids and hopefully reach the other 3-4 kids that are reading below grade level or can't do double digit addition.

There are also curriculum issues at our public, which again... even if you are well off and educated, you might not know about unless you are following along closely, have dug around to read the district websites and also been following educational news. The class is running behind in math (due to a "exploratory math curriculum") and in literacy (Calkins, no spelling or grammar). The teacher seems too frazzled or lazy to even assign math homework at this point. I thought by 2nd or 3rd grade, the kids would go beyond writing whatever and however they want (the thinking being that the teachers don't want to crush their big thoughts and inventive spelling), but no. Many parents seem to supplement outside of school with Beast Academy, Kumon, and after school enrichment academies, which are all fine, but at that point, what kind of time is left for family time, sports, music, exploring interests, and being a kid? We have the money to supplement, but I want the time back.

Most public schools don’t assign homework until HS and even then, they often let kids do it in class. How do you think all of these kids have so much time to do all of the after school activities? Little to no homework.

It is fascinating to me seeing kids just hanging around at the mall. My high school junior never has time for that. This is why college outcomes are so much stronger for kids in private schools. Colleges realize that kids in private/Catholic schools are actually applying themselves outside of the classroom.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Catholic schools in the DMV are a waste of money

What if your local public sucks. And you don’t have the money for prep or sidwell?

Any MCPS HS is better.

If you feel that way, then just stay and enjoy your school, including the:

-locked bathrooms
-frequent fights
-overcrowded class sizes
-mold infested portable classrooms
-lockdowns, bomb scares, gun scares
-frequent standardized testing (waste of time)
-gender dysphoria in a third of the population
-severe grade inflation
-over exposure to AP classes and consequent student burnout (for motivated students)
-lack of writing instruction/little to no feedback on submitted papers and essays
-over exposure to unmotivated students and risk of your student becoming one

I could go on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually question the same thing. In this area the cohort that attend public and private is much the same, upper middle class parents who at least the majority are invested in their kids education.

I live in an area like what you describe, and I wonder if most parents really know what the school day is like. I do, because I've volunteered a lot at my child's school, worked part time in a different elementary school in the same district. I have read the district curriculum guides.

Here's what I have seen: There are a small number of kids - maybe 2-3 in my kid's class of 17, not sure of other grades - that are a problem daily. Most of school is structured around getting these kids to comply by cajoling, pleading, setting up elaborate rewards systems, and giving junk incentives like toys, youtube videos, using the ipad apps, and Disney movie viewings. The whole class watches movies, Lego cooking videos, lines up to turn in tickets from the teacher's "store" every single week (all time taken out of instructional time). I'm moving my kid to an environment where kids are hopefully just expected to learn. Most children like to learn and they should be in an environment that promotes that. Catholic schools can do that, because they can still dole our reach consequences, including expulsion. Public school doesn't care about my kid's experience, since he is already above grade level and they need to deal with the 2-3 problem kids and hopefully reach the other 3-4 kids that are reading below grade level or can't do double digit addition.

There are also curriculum issues at our public, which again... even if you are well off and educated, you might not know about unless you are following along closely, have dug around to read the district websites and also been following educational news. The class is running behind in math (due to a "exploratory math curriculum") and in literacy (Calkins, no spelling or grammar). The teacher seems too frazzled or lazy to even assign math homework at this point. I thought by 2nd or 3rd grade, the kids would go beyond writing whatever and however they want (the thinking being that the teachers don't want to crush their big thoughts and inventive spelling), but no. Many parents seem to supplement outside of school with Beast Academy, Kumon, and after school enrichment academies, which are all fine, but at that point, what kind of time is left for family time, sports, music, exploring interests, and being a kid? We have the money to supplement, but I want the time back.

Most public schools don’t assign homework until HS and even then, they often let kids do it in class. How do you think all of these kids have so much time to do all of the after school activities? Little to no homework.

It is fascinating to me seeing kids just hanging around at the mall. My high school junior never has time for that. This is why college outcomes are so much stronger for kids in private schools. Colleges realize that kids in private/Catholic schools are actually applying themselves outside of the classroom.

Tell it to my friend’s DD who is going to Stanford from public.

You are just as bad as the anti-Catholic school trolls. Be better.

- Catholic school parent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I actually question the same thing. In this area the cohort that attend public and private is much the same, upper middle class parents who at least the majority are invested in their kids education.

I live in an area like what you describe, and I wonder if most parents really know what the school day is like. I do, because I've volunteered a lot at my child's school, worked part time in a different elementary school in the same district. I have read the district curriculum guides.

Here's what I have seen: There are a small number of kids - maybe 2-3 in my kid's class of 17, not sure of other grades - that are a problem daily. Most of school is structured around getting these kids to comply by cajoling, pleading, setting up elaborate rewards systems, and giving junk incentives like toys, youtube videos, using the ipad apps, and Disney movie viewings. The whole class watches movies, Lego cooking videos, lines up to turn in tickets from the teacher's "store" every single week (all time taken out of instructional time). I'm moving my kid to an environment where kids are hopefully just expected to learn. Most children like to learn and they should be in an environment that promotes that. Catholic schools can do that, because they can still dole our reach consequences, including expulsion. Public school doesn't care about my kid's experience, since he is already above grade level and they need to deal with the 2-3 problem kids and hopefully reach the other 3-4 kids that are reading below grade level or can't do double digit addition.

There are also curriculum issues at our public, which again... even if you are well off and educated, you might not know about unless you are following along closely, have dug around to read the district websites and also been following educational news. The class is running behind in math (due to a "exploratory math curriculum") and in literacy (Calkins, no spelling or grammar). The teacher seems too frazzled or lazy to even assign math homework at this point. I thought by 2nd or 3rd grade, the kids would go beyond writing whatever and however they want (the thinking being that the teachers don't want to crush their big thoughts and inventive spelling), but no. Many parents seem to supplement outside of school with Beast Academy, Kumon, and after school enrichment academies, which are all fine, but at that point, what kind of time is left for family time, sports, music, exploring interests, and being a kid? We have the money to supplement, but I want the time back.

Most public schools don’t assign homework until HS and even then, they often let kids do it in class. How do you think all of these kids have so much time to do all of the after school activities? Little to no homework.

It is fascinating to me seeing kids just hanging around at the mall. My high school junior never has time for that. This is why college outcomes are so much stronger for kids in private schools. Colleges realize that kids in private/Catholic schools are actually applying themselves outside of the classroom.

Tell it to my friend’s DD who is going to Stanford from public.

You are just as bad as the anti-Catholic school trolls. Be better.

- Catholic school parent

lol 😂 this is ridiculous no her kid is getting pregnant at 15 heading to a freak college for breeding that is what about said

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your kid will generally turn out to be a better, more caring citizen from Catholic vs. Public OP. It is part of the mission.

So caring to deny women and girls healthcare!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I actually question the same thing. In this area the cohort that attend public and private is much the same, upper middle class parents who at least the majority are invested in their kids education.

I live in an area like what you describe, and I wonder if most parents really know what the school day is like. I do, because I've volunteered a lot at my child's school, worked part time in a different elementary school in the same district. I have read the district curriculum guides.

Here's what I have seen: There are a small number of kids - maybe 2-3 in my kid's class of 17, not sure of other grades - that are a problem daily. Most of school is structured around getting these kids to comply by cajoling, pleading, setting up elaborate rewards systems, and giving junk incentives like toys, youtube videos, using the ipad apps, and Disney movie viewings. The whole class watches movies, Lego cooking videos, lines up to turn in tickets from the teacher's "store" every single week (all time taken out of instructional time). I'm moving my kid to an environment where kids are hopefully just expected to learn. Most children like to learn and they should be in an environment that promotes that. Catholic schools can do that, because they can still dole our reach consequences, including expulsion. Public school doesn't care about my kid's experience, since he is already above grade level and they need to deal with the 2-3 problem kids and hopefully reach the other 3-4 kids that are reading below grade level or can't do double digit addition.

There are also curriculum issues at our public, which again... even if you are well off and educated, you might not know about unless you are following along closely, have dug around to read the district websites and also been following educational news. The class is running behind in math (due to a "exploratory math curriculum") and in literacy (Calkins, no spelling or grammar). The teacher seems too frazzled or lazy to even assign math homework at this point. I thought by 2nd or 3rd grade, the kids would go beyond writing whatever and however they want (the thinking being that the teachers don't want to crush their big thoughts and inventive spelling), but no. Many parents seem to supplement outside of school with Beast Academy, Kumon, and after school enrichment academies, which are all fine, but at that point, what kind of time is left for family time, sports, music, exploring interests, and being a kid? We have the money to supplement, but I want the time back.

Most public schools don’t assign homework until HS and even then, they often let kids do it in class. How do you think all of these kids have so much time to do all of the after school activities? Little to no homework.

It is fascinating to me seeing kids just hanging around at the mall. My high school junior never has time for that. This is why college outcomes are so much stronger for kids in private schools. Colleges realize that kids in private/Catholic schools are actually applying themselves outside of the classroom.

Tell it to my friend’s DD who is going to Stanford from public.

You are just as bad as the anti-Catholic school trolls. Be better.

- Catholic school parent

lol 😂 this is ridiculous no her kid is getting pregnant at 15 heading to a freak college for breeding that is what about said

You are sorta batsh!!t, you know. You do know that, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Catholic school parent here. I just love how some posters say it’s a matter of priorities and isn’t it great when parents value education. As if most parents of kids in public don’t value it. So inaccurate and condescending.

This. I would never send my child to a Catholic school because we're not Catholic. We didn't even consider it--it wasn't even an option for us.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I attended a large local catholic co-ed. I knew of 1 non-catholic student, other than myself and some athletes. It's catholic. My first 5 minutes, everyone was in bleachers doing the sign of the cross, saying a prayer in unison, and I knew I was a fish out of water

Most DMV Catholic schools these days are 10-20% non-Catholic.

Ok, 2 people plus a few athletes would be around 10%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I attended a large local catholic co-ed. I knew of 1 non-catholic student, other than myself and some athletes. It's catholic. My first 5 minutes, everyone was in bleachers doing the sign of the cross, saying a prayer in unison, and I knew I was a fish out of water

Most DMV Catholic schools these days are 10-20% non-Catholic.

Ok, 2 people plus a few athletes would be around 10%

So, more than 1.

You don’t understand the current demographics of the local Catholic schools.

[Anonymous]

We’re not Catholic but we chose to be in a Catholic high school for the sense of community, availability and participation in sports/clubs/arts, and smaller school and classes after going public elementary and middle. It does remind us of our public school experience in the 90s in a lot of ways. We know some kids (arguably highly self-driven motivated) at our large public who have done well and also a whole crew who seem to hate it and aren’t really involved in anything. We wanted our DC to have a good group of friends and be involved which is the case, and it seems everyone is doing something.

[Anonymous]

My son attended a large Arlington diocese school for much of elementary before I switched him back to public middle school mainly because of a few unqualified, disorganized Catholic school teachers who did not follow lesson plans or actually teach in the classroom. No consequences because Catholic elementary schools have trouble with teacher retention due to low pay. And class sizes not necessarily smaller than area public schools. As a result, my son was at least one grade behind in math (standardized testing and other assessments). I had been teaching him core concepts like long division, multiplication, measurement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:the troll who thinks Catholic schools in the dmv are the same as tiny southern Bible schools teaching dinosaurs aren’t real is exhausting.

The Catholic schools in the area often do a better job at ensure their students understand math concepts and place them according to ability vs accelerating every possible student while leaving major gaps.

Yeah, that's why Catholic schools are known to dominate math competitions.
NOT...

Math competitions have nothing to do with the high schools, it’s all parents paying for RSM and AOPS.

Well, if that's the case, I would rather pay money to them so my kids can master the concepts and compete in these competitions instead of wasting it on inferior products.