I'm perimenopausal and want to apologize

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sure if that’s what makes you happy!! Other people are happiest with different thing. I’m shallow and love fitting in size 6 clothes. I’m totally jazzed when I can throw on those size 6 cute cropped pants and a colorful top and head out for drinks with my friends feeling stylish.

It’s a matter of personal preference no?

Yes, I am 100% with you. And also, (new poster here) what you outlined (paying attention to insulin and curbing sugar cravings which ends up naturally curbing your appetite and weight gain) has worked VERY well for me too

[Anonymous]

Wut? I’m the size 6. I don’t cut out food groups. I am not starving or even hungry. I have never reported anyone or a post. I’m totally happy with my choice and also totally happy if that isn’t your choice. If my experience isn’t helpful to you, definitely feel free to ignore it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wut? I’m the size 6. I don’t cut out food groups. I am not starving or even hungry. I have never reported anyone or a post. I’m totally happy with my choice and also totally happy if that isn’t your choice. If my experience isn’t helpful to you, definitely feel free to ignore it.

Are you this pp?
Sure if that’s what makes you happy!! Other people are happiest with different thing. I’m shallow and love fitting in size 6 clothes. I’m totally jazzed when I can throw on those size 6 cute cropped pants and a colorful top and head out for drinks with my friends feeling stylish.

It’s a matter of personal preference no?
Because I responded to this PP that I am size two and eat a ton and sugar too, my posts kept disappearing. Even though I only asked how tall pp is, as in you pp might be much taller than me, and hence slim for her height.
Somehow, posts keep being removed here, and none of the posts were toxic whatsoever.

I reported posts that insulted posters size. The posts I reported were indeed rude and toxic. Seeing as they were deleted, it’s likely Jeff agreed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wut? I’m the size 6. I don’t cut out food groups. I am not starving or even hungry. I have never reported anyone or a post. I’m totally happy with my choice and also totally happy if that isn’t your choice. If my experience isn’t helpful to you, definitely feel free to ignore it.

Are you this pp?
Sure if that’s what makes you happy!! Other people are happiest with different thing. I’m shallow and love fitting in size 6 clothes. I’m totally jazzed when I can throw on those size 6 cute cropped pants and a colorful top and head out for drinks with my friends feeling stylish.

It’s a matter of personal preference no?
Because I responded to this PP that I am size two and eat a ton and sugar too, my posts kept disappearing. Even though I only asked how tall pp is, as in you pp might be much taller than me, and hence slim for her height.
Somehow, posts keep being removed here, and none of the posts were toxic whatsoever.

I am! I did not report anyone posts. My size makes me happy. You may disagree or have diff size. All good with me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Wow, parts of this thread got out of hand.

The frustrating thing is that heavier people (generally) burn more calories at rest. So all things being equal, if you have a 140lb and 150lb person, the heavier person will be burning a few more calories just by virtue of having a bigger body.

But now in the throngs of perimenopause, and being 10lbs more, I definitely do not burn more. It feels so frustrating to be so active and eat pretty clean but still put on some lbs.

I feel like it came on all of the sudden - the past 6 months or so.

I am perimenopausal. Get your thyroid hormones checked if you haven’t already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wut? I’m the size 6. I don’t cut out food groups. I am not starving or even hungry. I have never reported anyone or a post. I’m totally happy with my choice and also totally happy if that isn’t your choice. If my experience isn’t helpful to you, definitely feel free to ignore it.

Are you this pp?
Sure if that’s what makes you happy!! Other people are happiest with different thing. I’m shallow and love fitting in size 6 clothes. I’m totally jazzed when I can throw on those size 6 cute cropped pants and a colorful top and head out for drinks with my friends feeling stylish.

It’s a matter of personal preference no?
Because I responded to this PP that I am size two and eat a ton and sugar too, my posts kept disappearing. Even though I only asked how tall pp is, as in you pp might be much taller than me, and hence slim for her height.
Somehow, posts keep being removed here, and none of the posts were toxic whatsoever.

I reported posts that insulted posters size. The posts I reported were indeed rude and toxic. Seeing as they were deleted, it’s likely Jeff agreed.

I did not post anything that insulted people's sizes. All I asked was if pp was tall; nothing was added at all. I am pp who posted that I am finding it insane at 54 how just looking at food makes me gain weight. I'm now a size 2, short, but over the last six months, I've gained 15 pounds at 54. People comment that I look great, but that is only bcs I had room to gain weight. I exercise daily, I eat healthily, but I even posted that, all of a sudden, my appetite is insane and I can go hungry for days and lose a bit, but as soon as I eat normal portions, I am gaining weight.

Listen I don’t catalog other people’s posts. But I reported rude stuff. If your posts wasn’t rude then I wouldn’t have reported and Jeff wouldn’t have deleted it. Someone was absolutely being an AH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait till you 50-52.
I was still considered “prime” at 45

This! I'm 49 and it starts really hitting me- the weight gain. Only a year ago, I was 115 lbs and could easily go to 110 lbs with some calorie restriction. Now, I'm 120 lbs at 5'4" and literally cannot lose weight. At 45, I was still skinny, like 108 lbs. The struggle is real ladies.

[Anonymous]

Snacking is for toddlers. Older children and adults do not snack if they eat proper meals. And they won't get fat either. It's really that simple.

This one does! I'm really not fat. I eat my first meal at 6 am and my last meal at 8 pm thanks to RTO mandates. Often with a 20 mile uphill bike ride between work and dinner.

There is no way I'm getting through my day without snacks. Sorry if this is gross. I don't feel the need to have a sub-19 BMI as a 50-something woman like the PP who feels huge at my size (5"4 and under 120)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m the PP above who about protein and veggies and no snacking between meals. I agree that being heavier is not a problem if you don’t mind it. For me, I wanted to get my weight down so I am happy with how I look in family photos, so my doctor sent me home with recommended reading and a plan.

The gist is to up your protein so you don’t get hungry between meals. I’m veggie so i do that with lentils, beans, tofu, cheese. At least 6 oz. Add same amount of veggies. Eat it all. Then stop grazing between meals. Like in France, no snacking. Calling it intermittent fasting makes it sound like it’s extreme, but it’s just eating when it’s mealtime.

It was immediate for me. I was the queen of grazing all day. Then within 2 days of stopping the grazing, my sugar cravings stopped. Within a week, I had dropped a few pounds. Within 3 months, I had dropped 18 pounds. I now add 2-3 cheat days a week so I don’t feel deprived and can have fun at restaurants. I don’t graze anymore. That time allows your insulin (fat storing hormone) to fall in between meals so you’re not constantly searching for the next sugar hit so you can store it as fat. Let your body relax from that constant insulin high.

After those first 2 days, I have never been hungry. And I learned that those first two days weren’t really hunger. Just sugar cravings. I see that now.

It may not work for everyone of course. But my dr (a menopause dr) said it works for nearly all her patients.

PP, I usually eat a later breakfast around 11 but will drink 2 cups of coffee with half and half in the morning. Does this mess up the no snacking rule? Should I have coffee with breakfast? Along those lines, if I’m used to snacking on fruit, yogurt, etc., should I start having those with my meals instead of between meals?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the PP above who about protein and veggies and no snacking between meals. I agree that being heavier is not a problem if you don’t mind it. For me, I wanted to get my weight down so I am happy with how I look in family photos, so my doctor sent me home with recommended reading and a plan.

The gist is to up your protein so you don’t get hungry between meals. I’m veggie so i do that with lentils, beans, tofu, cheese. At least 6 oz. Add same amount of veggies. Eat it all. Then stop grazing between meals. Like in France, no snacking. Calling it intermittent fasting makes it sound like it’s extreme, but it’s just eating when it’s mealtime.

It was immediate for me. I was the queen of grazing all day. Then within 2 days of stopping the grazing, my sugar cravings stopped. Within a week, I had dropped a few pounds. Within 3 months, I had dropped 18 pounds. I now add 2-3 cheat days a week so I don’t feel deprived and can have fun at restaurants. I don’t graze anymore. That time allows your insulin (fat storing hormone) to fall in between meals so you’re not constantly searching for the next sugar hit so you can store it as fat. Let your body relax from that constant insulin high.

After those first 2 days, I have never been hungry. And I learned that those first two days weren’t really hunger. Just sugar cravings. I see that now.

It may not work for everyone of course. But my dr (a menopause dr) said it works for nearly all her patients.

PP, I usually eat a later breakfast around 11 but will drink 2 cups of coffee with half and half in the morning. Does this mess up the no snacking rule? Should I have coffee with breakfast? Along those lines, if I’m used to snacking on fruit, yogurt, etc., should I start having those with my meals instead of between meals?

Yep! Caffeine causes a rise in insulin. Just water between meals. No food, coffee, juice. Just water.

Once I stopped grazing between meals, I realized that I had been eating and drinking all day. I love the freedom now— I eat only when it’s mealtime. And I love my new energy levels and clothing size.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait till you 50-52.
I was still considered “prime” at 45

This! I'm 49 and it starts really hitting me- the weight gain. Only a year ago, I was 115 lbs and could easily go to 110 lbs with some calorie restriction. Now, I'm 120 lbs at 5'4" and literally cannot lose weight. At 45, I was still skinny, like 108 lbs. The struggle is real ladies.

120 is still slim and v healthy for your height. 108 was likely underweight. I don’t know who these people are who think they’re going to stay their high school weight their whole lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the PP above who about protein and veggies and no snacking between meals. I agree that being heavier is not a problem if you don’t mind it. For me, I wanted to get my weight down so I am happy with how I look in family photos, so my doctor sent me home with recommended reading and a plan.

The gist is to up your protein so you don’t get hungry between meals. I’m veggie so i do that with lentils, beans, tofu, cheese. At least 6 oz. Add same amount of veggies. Eat it all. Then stop grazing between meals. Like in France, no snacking. Calling it intermittent fasting makes it sound like it’s extreme, but it’s just eating when it’s mealtime.

It was immediate for me. I was the queen of grazing all day. Then within 2 days of stopping the grazing, my sugar cravings stopped. Within a week, I had dropped a few pounds. Within 3 months, I had dropped 18 pounds. I now add 2-3 cheat days a week so I don’t feel deprived and can have fun at restaurants. I don’t graze anymore. That time allows your insulin (fat storing hormone) to fall in between meals so you’re not constantly searching for the next sugar hit so you can store it as fat. Let your body relax from that constant insulin high.

After those first 2 days, I have never been hungry. And I learned that those first two days weren’t really hunger. Just sugar cravings. I see that now.

It may not work for everyone of course. But my dr (a menopause dr) said it works for nearly all her patients.

PP, I usually eat a later breakfast around 11 but will drink 2 cups of coffee with half and half in the morning. Does this mess up the no snacking rule? Should I have coffee with breakfast? Along those lines, if I’m used to snacking on fruit, yogurt, etc., should I start having those with my meals instead of between meals?

Yep! Caffeine causes a rise in insulin. Just water between meals. No food, coffee, juice. Just water.

Once I stopped grazing between meals, I realized that I had been eating and drinking all day. I love the freedom now— I eat only when it’s mealtime. And I love my new energy levels and clothing size.

Thanks. I’m going to try this out, though not having snack breaks to look forward to is going to be hard!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wait till you 50-52.
I was still considered “prime” at 45

This! I'm 49 and it starts really hitting me- the weight gain. Only a year ago, I was 115 lbs and could easily go to 110 lbs with some calorie restriction. Now, I'm 120 lbs at 5'4" and literally cannot lose weight. At 45, I was still skinny, like 108 lbs. The struggle is real ladies.

120 is still slim and v healthy for your height. 108 was likely underweight. I don’t know who these people are who think they’re going to stay their high school weight their whole lives.

108 / 5’4” is an 18.5 BMI and is not underweight. And regarding who are the people who think they’re going to stay at the same weight all their life : count me in. And my mom. And my grandma. And yes for them it was on purpose in addition to good genes.

They did (are still for my mom) aim to control their weight gain all their lives and had a very balanced and happy relationship to food. My grandma died at 96 and it was only in the last 15 years that she gained 10 pounds, as a bit of cushion is better when you get to that point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m the PP above who about protein and veggies and no snacking between meals. I agree that being heavier is not a problem if you don’t mind it. For me, I wanted to get my weight down so I am happy with how I look in family photos, so my doctor sent me home with recommended reading and a plan.

The gist is to up your protein so you don’t get hungry between meals. I’m veggie so i do that with lentils, beans, tofu, cheese. At least 6 oz. Add same amount of veggies. Eat it all. Then stop grazing between meals. Like in France, no snacking. Calling it intermittent fasting makes it sound like it’s extreme, but it’s just eating when it’s mealtime.

It was immediate for me. I was the queen of grazing all day. Then within 2 days of stopping the grazing, my sugar cravings stopped. Within a week, I had dropped a few pounds. Within 3 months, I had dropped 18 pounds. I now add 2-3 cheat days a week so I don’t feel deprived and can have fun at restaurants. I don’t graze anymore. That time allows your insulin (fat storing hormone) to fall in between meals so you’re not constantly searching for the next sugar hit so you can store it as fat. Let your body relax from that constant insulin high.

After those first 2 days, I have never been hungry. And I learned that those first two days weren’t really hunger. Just sugar cravings. I see that now.

It may not work for everyone of course. But my dr (a menopause dr) said it works for nearly all her patients.

PP, I usually eat a later breakfast around 11 but will drink 2 cups of coffee with half and half in the morning. Does this mess up the no snacking rule? Should I have coffee with breakfast? Along those lines, if I’m used to snacking on fruit, yogurt, etc., should I start having those with my meals instead of between meals?

Yep! Caffeine causes a rise in insulin. Just water between meals. No food, coffee, juice. Just water.

Once I stopped grazing between meals, I realized that I had been eating and drinking all day. I love the freedom now— I eat only when it’s mealtime. And I love my new energy levels and clothing size.

Thanks. I’m going to try this out, though not having snack breaks to look forward to is going to be hard!

Good luck. The first two days were the hardest for me. I just kept reminding myself that my French friends never snack. Getting enough protein is during the meal is the key! At least 6 ounces, and that amount of veggies too. Have your coffee then.

See how that goes for a week or two. I was very pleasantly surprised at the results after 2 weeks for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s insulin insensitivity. You need to up your protein and cut out all sugar and cheap carbs. If you consume protein and veggies in reasonable portions, and no snacking between meals, your insulin levels won’t be constantly spiked, and you’ll lose the weight.

I followed my menopause doctor’s advice and it worked. After 3 months, I weigh what I did in my 20s and I have 2-3 cheat days a week where I eat what I want and have wine etc. It’s like magic but my dr assures me it’s basic biology.

Hmm, deprive myself and constantly feel miserable, or gain a few lbs and feel miserable. The choices SUCK, but I choose fat and happy, because I am going to enjoy life, and that includes food. And 10-15 pounds does not really make anyone "fat"

It is wild to me that concentrating on protein and veggies and not snacking seems "miserable." Maybe I am out of touch, but do most adults snack? Eating three meals a day with a focus on protein and veggies sounds fairly normal to me?

NP and +1

I’d rather eat a juicy medium-rare ribeye, perfectly grilled chicken thigh, or a crisp-skinned filet of salmon, than any type of cardboard-resembling “snack.” Bonus points for the fact that all of the above fills me up and doesn’t leave me wanting to snack an hour later.

And I'm a vegetarian and think everything you'd "rather" eat is unhealthy and cruel.