Typical asian student chance me

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Anonymous wrote:SAT score between 1520 and 1560, a GPA above 3.975, 7–8 AP exams all scored 5, with some involvement in sports and music, some community service, and some research/paper work.

Forget top 30 colleges and focus on lower ranking privates or state schools.

lol?
what?
yeah, no. my asian kid is at an ivy with lower stats.

Lucky one, your kid must be an outlier.

My kid with much strong stats, 1590,13APs, multiple leaderships, numerous state awards, national award but not top, volunteer award plus law firm part-time job, rejected by all Ivies applied , bottom ones didn't apply.
End up in top lac.

Nope - just private HS.
Non-stem and non-stereotypical so really stood out.

My kid is also Non-stem and non-stereotypical, what make your DC stood out? ranked at the top?

[Anonymous]

I thought they removed race as a factor? It shouldn't matter that OP is asian. Not saying that it doesn't. But, it shouldn't. No one should be dismissed because of their race. With the OP's stats, he should be getting into most schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought they removed race as a factor? It shouldn't matter that OP is asian. Not saying that it doesn't. But, it shouldn't. No one should be dismissed because of their race. With the OP's stats, he should be getting into most schools.

Diversity, low income are still factors, which should be, with so many high stats Asian kids, many of them will be shut out from T15

[Anonymous]

As a second generation Asian American, I found immigrant parents (mine included) are highly insecure. They all pushed their children into the same model. Gpa, test score, aime, majors that lead to a good salary. These children become products of cookie cutter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SAT score between 1520 and 1560, a GPA above 3.975, 7–8 AP exams all scored 5, with some involvement in sports and music, some community service, and some research/paper work.

This is definitely a large suburb public school.

In any decent private school, a GPA above 3.975 would not have any problem at all with at least one or two of T20. Heck, a GPA above 3.7 and mediocre ECs would place OP reasonably well if in a decent private school.

Different story in a public school. That GPA is not good enough with grade inflation. OP is better off working on a spike, large or small. Things like leadership, unique job would help.

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What about rigor?

Does anyone else think 8 APs are not enough for a T-20 college? Especially if coming from a large, suburban public school that offers tons of AP classes and other classmates take more?

We’re not in CA, but DC is at a solid suburban public and will have 11 APs - 2 in 10th, 4 in 11th, and 5 in 12th, including Calc BC, AP Bio, AP Lang, AP Lit, and Physics C.

This is definitly on the high side at our public school, but there at least three other kids in the grade (Asian boys) who will have more - 12 APs plus multiple dual enrollments. They spent their first two summers taking extra classes to “get ahead”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought they removed race as a factor? It shouldn't matter that OP is asian. Not saying that it doesn't. But, it shouldn't. No one should be dismissed because of their race. With the OP's stats, he should be getting into most schools.

Diversity, low income are still factors, which should be, with so many high stats Asian kids, many of them will be shut out from T15

These are mediocre stats in a high school having 70% Asian students. For high stats, they will need 1580+, 4.0+ gpa, founders and presidents of clubs/non-profit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SAT score between 1520 and 1560, a GPA above 3.975, 7–8 AP exams all scored 5, with some involvement in sports and music, some community service, and some research/paper work.

This is definitely a large suburb public school.

In any decent private school, a GPA above 3.975 would not have any problem at all with at least one or two of T20. Heck, a GPA above 3.7 and mediocre ECs would place OP reasonably well if in a decent private school.

Different story in a public school. That GPA is not good enough with grade inflation. OP is better off working on a spike, large or small. Things like leadership, unique job would help.

especially


What about rigor?

Does anyone else think 8 APs are not enough for a T-20 college? Especially if coming from a large, suburban public school that offers tons of AP classes and other classmates take more?

We’re not in CA, but DC is at a solid suburban public and will have 11 APs - 2 in 10th, 4 in 11th, and 5 in 12th, including Calc BC, AP Bio, AP Lang, AP Lit, and Physics C.

This is definitly on the high side at our public school, but there at least three other kids in the grade (Asian boys) who will have more - 12 APs plus multiple dual enrollments. They spent their first two summers taking extra classes to “get ahead”.

APs are not rigorous. You just need 70% correct to get 5 on an AP test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I thought they removed race as a factor? It shouldn't matter that OP is asian. Not saying that it doesn't. But, it shouldn't. No one should be dismissed because of their race. With the OP's stats, he should be getting into most schools.

Diversity, low income are still factors, which should be, with so many high stats Asian kids, many of them will be shut out from T15

These are mediocre stats in a high school having 70% Asian students. For high stats, they will need 1580+, 4.0+ gpa, founders and presidents of clubs/non-profit.

And more, Asian students need spike, like national award, or club/non-profit with impact.

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Anonymous wrote:SAT score between 1520 and 1560, a GPA above 3.975, 7–8 AP exams all scored 5, with some involvement in sports and music, some community service, and some research/paper work.

OP, I don’t see any genuine interest in his stats. Everything he did is for college applications. Some, some, and some. He didn’t show any passion in anything whatsoever.

[Anonymous]

National Awards are dime a dozen.

What National Awards will add more value to a student with a similar profile/SAT/GPA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:National Awards are dime a dozen.

What National Awards will add more value to a student with a similar profile/SAT/GPA?

With this kind of stats, I think stem award is quite remote for this kid, scholastic art and writing gold can help a lot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:National Awards are dime a dozen.

What National Awards will add more value to a student with a similar profile/SAT/GPA?

With this kind of stats, I think stem award is quite remote for this kid, scholastic art and writing gold can help a lot.

Scholastic art&writing awards are not easy. Unlike math competitions, you can’t drill to get art and writing awards. If the kid doesn’t have the talent, no, those awards are even more remote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a second generation Asian American, I found immigrant parents (mine included) are highly insecure. They all pushed their children into the same model. Gpa, test score, aime, majors that lead to a good salary. These children become products of cookie cutter.

That was before, now it's much diversified.

[Anonymous]

As a PP mentioned, school/community leadership would help. If leadership is not possible, consider a unique job/internship this summer. Don’t do summer programs or hospital volunteer, those are way too common. Unique is the key.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SAT score between 1520 and 1560, a GPA above 3.975, 7–8 AP exams all scored 5, with some involvement in sports and music, some community service, and some research/paper work.

The question is what is the interest of the kid? We can't tell.

But if OP is interested in CS or engineering, this stats will guarantee you acceptance in many state schools including a couple of flagship schools (think Alabama, Ohio). State universities are better places for engineering or CS. There is no need to go to T20 to learn those skills.