If Paul Weiss won’t stand up, who will?

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Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.

Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.

If I were till in a position of hiring big firms (I was deputy general counsel to a bank), I would think twice about PW's ability to zealously represent my interests before the federal government. They have proven they won't stand up for themselves, why would I believe they would stand up for me?

True but the only prosecution will be political. So maybe PW has shown it has enough connections to mitigate Trump’s attacks? Though PW was founded on different philosophy. It seems that philosophy will not work in the current environment or current courts.

No, they are just compromised now. I'd never hire them.

[Anonymous]

I absolutely believe that Trump is blackmailing his way through our democracy. I suspect Putin is providing him with intel and now Musk has access to darn near everything. It's incredible watching people fall, whether it's Chuck Schumer/other Dems, giant companies, journalists, etc. He could be threatening them with anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I absolutely believe that Trump is blackmailing his way through our democracy. I suspect Putin is providing him with intel and now Musk has access to darn near everything. It's incredible watching people fall, whether it's Chuck Schumer/other Dems, giant companies, journalists, etc. He could be threatening them with anything.

You know what, I think you're right and I'm not even kidding. Blackmail absolutely explains why people and institutions like Chuck Schumer and Paul Weiss who have the resources to fight back have rolled over. Honestly, I don't think he needs Russia when Musk has access to everyone's Twitter DMs and activity from day 1. Back when Twitter was in it's heyday and a staunch backer of all things liberal/progressive, I would not be surprised if a lot of people did things via DM that they would never want to see a lot of day. Can you imagine what public figures did on secret alt accounts as well? The level of kompromat must be astonishing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One new lawyer quit the firm over this.

I think Trump should have asked they apologize to Tom Brady and recognize that their investigation actually cleared him.

Do you mean the young white woman lawyer from Skadden? She’s all over the media now. Google the Mother Jones article.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.

Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.

If I were till in a position of hiring big firms (I was deputy general counsel to a bank), I would think twice about PW's ability to zealously represent my interests before the federal government. They have proven they won't stand up for themselves, why would I believe they would stand up for me?

True but the only prosecution will be political. So maybe PW has shown it has enough connections to mitigate Trump’s attacks? Though PW was founded on different philosophy. It seems that philosophy will not work in the current environment or current courts.

I was head of litigation for a major local company until a few years ago when I retired. This is going to be subtle. At least in our area, attorneys and in house counsel are moderate to left. Lots of white women in charge. No one is going to make a fuss to statement or “fire” PW over this. But they will hire someone else for next case. These law firms really don’t get that there are many many good law firms to choose from and decisions and made on the most basic level of do you like these people. Competence assumed. The PW attorneys with unique expertise will be fine but the rest should worry. As outside counsel I would also worry about their ability to recruit good new attorneys.

[Anonymous]

PP here. Meant to mention that I am also a former Big Law partner (at another firm that has been targeted). I am baffled by how this passed the full partnership. As someone said up thread, this negotiating was crap. Gave away way more than needed. I would not want this firm handling a major matter for me.


I can only assume the rest of the partnership had no idea.

Do we think this managing partner, who
Bundles money for DS, panicked and thoughjr this was the only way to save his job?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here. Meant to mention that I am also a former Big Law partner (at another firm that has been targeted). I am baffled by how this passed the full partnership. As someone said up thread, this negotiating was crap. Gave away way more than needed. I would not want this firm handling a major matter for me.


I can only assume the rest of the partnership had no idea.

Do we think this managing partner, who
Bundles money for DS, panicked and thoughjr this was the only way to save his job?

Honestly, at this point, behind-the-scenes blackmail is starting to make sense as an explanation for how SO many have capitulated without a fight. Paul Weiss, Columbia, Schumer, Disney, the hosts of Morning Joe, all of the who's whos of Silicon Valley from Alphabet to Apple to Meta to OpenAI, and so many more. This isn't the first time institutions and public figures have been targeted by an administration with autocratic aspirations (Dubya comes to mind). I can't recall having seen this type of rolling over and showing of the belly by the powerful since McCarthyism, however.

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And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people.

While I don't disagree that white people often make some terrible choices, unless you can leave the country, you don't really have a realistic option other than to 1) decide you love this authoritarian regime and go all in, or 2) work with at least some white people to try to change/resist. Black people are around 14 percent of the population of the U.S.

White women do not need any saving from y'all black folks.

White women need saving from ourselves.

-white woman

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.

Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.

If I were till in a position of hiring big firms (I was deputy general counsel to a bank), I would think twice about PW's ability to zealously represent my interests before the federal government. They have proven they won't stand up for themselves, why would I believe they would stand up for me?

True but the only prosecution will be political. So maybe PW has shown it has enough connections to mitigate Trump’s attacks? Though PW was founded on different philosophy. It seems that philosophy will not work in the current environment or current courts.

No, they are just compromised now. I'd never hire them.

Please if you do not hire them Trump will go after you and your company. There is no law.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.

I think you mean Black women, because white women continue to back the white patriarchy whenever it really counts. And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people. You all voted for this because you couldn't swallow righting the wrongs of the past and not being given the advantages you've become to believe you're entitled to. 400 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and maybe 20 years of affirmative action y'all want to chuck the constitution.

You’re talking to me, a 54 year old suburban white woman who has never voted for a republican. I marched Selma, Alabama for one of the Bloody Sunday anniversaries. I support SPLC. .None of my white female friends are republicans either. We voted for Kamala. We’re all boycotting companies that dumped DEI, and we’re calling our representatives. Your stereotypes and anger toward us as a group is unreasonable and not helpful.

You sound like people who say #notallmen

If she’s not talking about you because you’re not like the people she’s talking about, she’s not talking about you.

— White woman

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.

Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.

If I were till in a position of hiring big firms (I was deputy general counsel to a bank), I would think twice about PW's ability to zealously represent my interests before the federal government. They have proven they won't stand up for themselves, why would I believe they would stand up for me?

True but the only prosecution will be political. So maybe PW has shown it has enough connections to mitigate Trump’s attacks? Though PW was founded on different philosophy. It seems that philosophy will not work in the current environment or current courts.

No, they are just compromised now. I'd never hire them.

Please if you do not hire them Trump will go after you and your company. There is no law.

i agree no one is going to kick them off a case and cause a scene for fear of retaliation. But they won't get the next case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.

Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.

If I were till in a position of hiring big firms (I was deputy general counsel to a bank), I would think twice about PW's ability to zealously represent my interests before the federal government. They have proven they won't stand up for themselves, why would I believe they would stand up for me?

True but the only prosecution will be political. So maybe PW has shown it has enough connections to mitigate Trump’s attacks? Though PW was founded on different philosophy. It seems that philosophy will not work in the current environment or current courts.

No, they are just compromised now. I'd never hire them.

Please if you do not hire them Trump will go after you and your company. There is no law.

i agree no one is going to kick them off a case and cause a scene for fear of retaliation. But they won't get the next case.

They will. There is no moral high ground firm. Those days are over. It’s pay to play with no legal system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP here. Meant to mention that I am also a former Big Law partner (at another firm that has been targeted). I am baffled by how this passed the full partnership. As someone said up thread, this negotiating was crap. Gave away way more than needed. I would not want this firm handling a major matter for me.


I can only assume the rest of the partnership had no idea.

Do we think this managing partner, who
Bundles money for DS, panicked and thoughjr this was the only way to save his job?

Honestly, at this point, behind-the-scenes blackmail is starting to make sense as an explanation for how SO many have capitulated without a fight. Paul Weiss, Columbia, Schumer, Disney, the hosts of Morning Joe, all of the who's whos of Silicon Valley from Alphabet to Apple to Meta to OpenAI, and so many more. This isn't the first time institutions and public figures have been targeted by an administration with autocratic aspirations (Dubya comes to mind). I can't recall having seen this type of rolling over and showing of the belly by the powerful since McCarthyism, however.

But that’s just it. It’s McCarthyism combined with early 1930a history. History these people have forgotten. Appeasement doesn’t work. It just leads to being complicit.

All those people who reflexively say “never again” on Holocaust Remembrance Day should wake the f&ck up. This is how you get to “again” - by trying to appease would-be dictators. Maybe the current dictator wannabe isn’t interested in murdering 12 million people or conquering territory, but that’s just our good fortune. Because the stage is being set for that to be accomplished if he or his successor wanted to go that route.

Paul Weiss, Columbia, Congress, and everyone else who is capitulating or hoping to profit or turn the moment to their advantage are cowards who have forgotten history they should know.

But a lot of us haven’t forgotten. And we will fight authoritarianism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republican voters want Trump in charge. The next President will be another populist Republican. That’s why Paul Weiss isn’t fighting Trump. Bezos, Zuckerberg, every Fortune 500 CEO canceling DEI programs with relief… what do they all know that we don’t know?

Populism is fundamentally opposite of the techno billionaires, though. I don’t see how this can last beyond Trump. Unless it’ll just be bread and circuses and no free press forever more. Which could happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.

I think you mean Black women, because white women continue to back the white patriarchy whenever it really counts. And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people. You all voted for this because you couldn't swallow righting the wrongs of the past and not being given the advantages you've become to believe you're entitled to. 400 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and maybe 20 years of affirmative action y'all want to chuck the constitution.

You’re talking to me, a 54 year old suburban white woman who has never voted for a republican. I marched Selma, Alabama for one of the Bloody Sunday anniversaries. I support SPLC. .None of my white female friends are republicans either. We voted for Kamala. We’re all boycotting companies that dumped DEI, and we’re calling our representatives. Your stereotypes and anger toward us as a group is unreasonable and not helpful.

You sound like people who say #notallmen

If she’s not talking about you because you’re not like the people she’s talking about, she’s not talking about you.

— White woman

No. She was quote replying to me and lumping me in with “y’all”. I don’t judge her by the color of her skin and I am asking just the same of her. And, oh, I don’t dare wear a pin or a bracelet to let her know I hate Trump and the GOP, or else I’d be mocked for that too. But she’ll assume the worst of me until she “gets to know me.” Imagine a white woman saying that about a black woman. It’s appalling.