If Paul Weiss won’t stand up, who will?

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Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.

I think you mean Black women, because white women continue to back the white patriarchy whenever it really counts. And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people. You all voted for this because you couldn't swallow righting the wrongs of the past and not being given the advantages you've become to believe you're entitled to. 400 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and maybe 20 years of affirmative action y'all want to chuck the constitution.

You’re talking to me, a 54 year old suburban white woman who has never voted for a republican. I marched Selma, Alabama for one of the Bloody Sunday anniversaries. I support SPLC. .None of my white female friends are republicans either. We voted for Kamala. We’re all boycotting companies that dumped DEI, and we’re calling our representatives. Your stereotypes and anger toward us as a group is unreasonable and not helpful.

That's nice and all, but I have to go by 1. My own experiences with white people and 2. The numbers.

My own experiences and the numbers suggest that when push comes to shove, white people would rather burn this country down than see me and people like me live among them as true equals. I can't take risks on those of you who might be really serious about racial equity. I have to keep myself and my family safe, and as a population, y'all are simply not safe. If that bothers you, keep up the good fight. But for me, right now? I'm keeping y'all at arms length, and you're a Trump supporter/white supremacist until proven otherwise through actions not words.

Likewise when y’all started stereotyping us all as “Karen”, I wondered why I had ever bothered to be an ally.

look- you either believe that white people are inherently superior to Blacks or you dont. 'ally" means- not believing in white supramacy so if you believe in white supremacy than go on ahead, you are just affirming what people of color have always known. i'm from south asia and ive heard my whole life that there is no snake like a gori ma'am.

you stand up for the truth and what is right b/ it is the right thing to do, standing up against state capture by an apartheid era south african even if he doesnt harm you is what differentiates the nazi hausfrau from the audrey hepbourns of the world. are you going to hide in your 3ks like a good hausfrau or will yo be an audrey hepbourne?? do you think she did it so people wouldnt call her names???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.

I think you mean Black women, because white women continue to back the white patriarchy whenever it really counts. And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people. You all voted for this because you couldn't swallow righting the wrongs of the past and not being given the advantages you've become to believe you're entitled to. 400 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and maybe 20 years of affirmative action y'all want to chuck the constitution.

You’re talking to me, a 54 year old suburban white woman who has never voted for a republican. I marched Selma, Alabama for one of the Bloody Sunday anniversaries. I support SPLC. .None of my white female friends are republicans either. We voted for Kamala. We’re all boycotting companies that dumped DEI, and we’re calling our representatives. Your stereotypes and anger toward us as a group is unreasonable and not helpful.

That's nice and all, but I have to go by 1. My own experiences with white people and 2. The numbers.

My own experiences and the numbers suggest that when push comes to shove, white people would rather burn this country down than see me and people like me live among them as true equals. I can't take risks on those of you who might be really serious about racial equity. I have to keep myself and my family safe, and as a population, y'all are simply not safe. If that bothers you, keep up the good fight. But for me, right now? I'm keeping y'all at arms length, and you're a Trump supporter/white supremacist until proven otherwise through actions not words.

Likewise when y’all started stereotyping us all as “Karen”, I wondered why I had ever bothered to be an ally.

Yep. You being called Karen is exactly the same as generations of systemic racism.

We pursue equality because it's right. It's not a favor you're doing for Black people.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.

I think you mean Black women, because white women continue to back the white patriarchy whenever it really counts. And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people. You all voted for this because you couldn't swallow righting the wrongs of the past and not being given the advantages you've become to believe you're entitled to. 400 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and maybe 20 years of affirmative action y'all want to chuck the constitution.

You’re talking to me, a 54 year old suburban white woman who has never voted for a republican. I marched Selma, Alabama for one of the Bloody Sunday anniversaries. I support SPLC. .None of my white female friends are republicans either. We voted for Kamala. We’re all boycotting companies that dumped DEI, and we’re calling our representatives. Your stereotypes and anger toward us as a group is unreasonable and not helpful.

That's nice and all, but I have to go by 1. My own experiences with white people and 2. The numbers.

My own experiences and the numbers suggest that when push comes to shove, white people would rather burn this country down than see me and people like me live among them as true equals. I can't take risks on those of you who might be really serious about racial equity. I have to keep myself and my family safe, and as a population, y'all are simply not safe. If that bothers you, keep up the good fight. But for me, right now? I'm keeping y'all at arms length, and you're a Trump supporter/white supremacist until proven otherwise through actions not words.

Then don't ever preach about fighting bias if you can't fight your own.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.

Yup, over and over again it's the women.

I’m worried about what a recession will do to women voters. In boom times, women vote independently. Many married couples cancel out each other’s votes these days. But in crisis times, married couples vite more alike. And I fear that, because Republicans are still more trusted in the economy every cycle, we’ll se more women shifting to vote with men for Republicans than me. Shifting to vote with women for Democrats.

More trusted in the economy? Look at the past 25 years, our best economy is always under a Democrat.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.

yup

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Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.

Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.

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Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.

Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.

If I were till in a position of hiring big firms (I was deputy general counsel to a bank), I would think twice about PW's ability to zealously represent my interests before the federal government. They have proven they won't stand up for themselves, why would I believe they would stand up for me?

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Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.

Lmao... Something like 40+ % of women voted for cadet bonespur.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.

I think you mean Black women, because white women continue to back the white patriarchy whenever it really counts. And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people. You all voted for this because you couldn't swallow righting the wrongs of the past and not being given the advantages you've become to believe you're entitled to. 400 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and maybe 20 years of affirmative action y'all want to chuck the constitution.

Please don't think all white women. Mostly uneducated white women voted for this mess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.

Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.

I have more respect for them now that they would no longer participate in discrimination against Asians which DEI was. Good for them to stop pandering to blacks.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It will be women. It usually is. Men fall for this tough guy routine but women are repulsed by it. We see through it. We also have more at stake.

I think you mean Black women, because white women continue to back the white patriarchy whenever it really counts. And honestly, as one of those Black women, I am sick and tired of trying to save y'all from yourselves. At this point, bring on the segregation, because I do not trust white people. You all voted for this because you couldn't swallow righting the wrongs of the past and not being given the advantages you've become to believe you're entitled to. 400 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and maybe 20 years of affirmative action y'all want to chuck the constitution.

Please don't think all white women. Mostly uneducated white women voted for this mess.

And regional. Cities vs rural as always.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.

Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.

I have more respect for them now that they would no longer participate in discrimination against Asians which DEI was. Good for them to stop pandering to blacks.

I’m a white woman with two daughters who are disabled. WHY would I vote to end DEI????? All three of us fall under DEI.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.

Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.

If I were till in a position of hiring big firms (I was deputy general counsel to a bank), I would think twice about PW's ability to zealously represent my interests before the federal government. They have proven they won't stand up for themselves, why would I believe they would stand up for me?

True but the only prosecution will be political. So maybe PW has shown it has enough connections to mitigate Trump’s attacks? Though PW was founded on different philosophy. It seems that philosophy will not work in the current environment or current courts.

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Can all the "not all white women", "not me, I'm an ally", "you are being just as bad" women just stop for a second? Why is your first response to snap back when a black woman has expressed her exasperation with a population that rarely has her back? Majorities of white women voted for Trump in every single election. They weren't all in flyover states, they weren't all uneducated and there are definitely liberal white women who would rather center themselves in a discussion like this rather than listen.

I would be pissed and furious if I was a black woman and I'm pissed on their behalf. They have consistently voted to uphold democracy in the narrowest of victories whether Alabama Senate races, or the 2020 election. They have the highest turnout numbers. As for black people in general, that 14% is doing a lot more
for democracy than our majority, that's for sure.

You need to give people room to vent. If this was a betrayed Ukrainian or Canadian right now, you'd be "I'm mad too" But the clap back at a black woman is your very first instinct. On November 7, most black women on Twitter were expressing some form of this sentiment. They are so damn tired and after our nation narrowly scraping though in 2020 thanks to their work in Georgia and their amazing canvassing, we gave it all away in 2024 if were are to believe the polling (I for one don't trust it given the anomalies).

Yes, we all need to fight together, but getting black women back to the table isn't going to happen if you lecture them. They have carried far more of the load for too long. Acknowledge their work, show some humility, stop advertising what you've done and just listen. Then let's get to work.

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Anonymous wrote:Paul Weiss is a business. They deal with reality, not with wishful political thinking. Obviously they are expecting Republicans to be in charge for the next few cycles.

Lawyers have greater responsibilities than simply making money. The decision is a disgrace to the firm, and this DC lawyer has lost respect for the firm.

If I were till in a position of hiring big firms (I was deputy general counsel to a bank), I would think twice about PW's ability to zealously represent my interests before the federal government. They have proven they won't stand up for themselves, why would I believe they would stand up for me?

Sadly, the truth will likely be the opposite. This move is going to boost Paul Weiss's stock among corporations because the best government-facing lawyers are those who have an in with whichever the current administration is.

A lot more gets resolved through negotiation, settlement, and back room deals then gets achieved by litigation and zealous advocacy. Thus, when it comes to legal matters, corporations hire insiders and those with connections to insiders no matter how those connections came about. With PW having effectively made a $40 million donation to Trump, the firm will have his ear and the ear of his DOJ, SEC, and other agencies.

The only way PW will actually suffer financially for this is if activists make a big deal about this and hold corporations' feet to the fire by publicizing and shaming anyone who hires PW. If hiring PW becomes almost on par in stigma with hiring Giuliani after he became a pariah for being Trump's henchman, then corporations will flee the negative publicity and PW will suffer. I doubt that will happen in these days of short attention span and so much scandal unfolding daily.