Death by firing squad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pretty pathetic really. What a backward state, not that we didn’t know that. I wonder if they do the thing where some shooters fire blanks.

The deceased admitted his culpability for the crimes charged.

He tied up the parents of his ex GF, picked up a baseball bat, and went back and forth between to separate rooms, smashing each of them in the head, until he had killed them both, slowly.

Can you imagine the terror those two innocent people felt during the prolonged time it took the killer to murder them both?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:May not sound related but it is - we're the only developed country to still feel death penalty is justified, not offer a universal health care nonprofit system to our citizens nor offer any real support to parents - it's the same mentality of egotistical ideology that says basically we only watch out for ourselves. No other developed country is so selfish in the way they set up their systems. Makes me so sad.

China and Japan both employ the death penalty. Guess you see both as “undeveloped countries?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty pathetic really. What a backward state, not that we didn’t know that. I wonder if they do the thing where some shooters fire blanks.

The deceased admitted his culpability for the crimes charged.

He tied up the parents of his ex GF, picked up a baseball bat, and went back and forth between to separate rooms, smashing each of them in the head, until he had killed them both, slowly.

Can you imagine the terror those two innocent people felt during the prolonged time it took the killer to murder them both?

None of that is relevant. It’s a pathetic way for a society to deal with the issue. But it is South Carolina, so not surprising.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty pathetic really. What a backward state, not that we didn’t know that. I wonder if they do the thing where some shooters fire blanks.

The deceased admitted his culpability for the crimes charged.

He tied up the parents of his ex GF, picked up a baseball bat, and went back and forth between to separate rooms, smashing each of them in the head, until he had killed them both, slowly.

Can you imagine the terror those two innocent people felt during the prolonged time it took the killer to murder them both?

None of that is relevant. It’s a pathetic way for a society to deal with the issue. But it is South Carolina, so not surprising.

If SC could only be a state in which liberal attorneys and judges make sure criminals walk freely and are given opportunities to commit more crimes, are released after committing violent crimes, are given short sentences, and are released even if sentenced to life in prison. Oh, the injustice!
Who cares about their victims...being beaten with a baseball bat isn't so bad...but death by firing squad is heinous.

[Anonymous]

Key Provisions

Juvenile Restoration Program
Purpose: The bill sets up a "Juvenile Restoration Program" under the Children, Youth and Families Department (CYFD). The goal is to aid juveniles convicted of first-degree murder, second-degree murder, or voluntary manslaughter in transitioning back into the community post-release.
Eligibility: Applies to individuals who were under 18 at the time of their offense and have served their sentence or been paroled.
Financial Assistance
Amount: Eligible individuals receive $2,000 per month.
Duration: Payments last for up to 48 months (4 years) or until the individual turns 25, whichever comes first.
Funding: The money comes from a newly created "Juvenile Restoration Fund," which will be supported by state appropriations and potentially other sources like grants or donations.
Conditions and Oversight
Compliance: Recipients must follow parole conditions (if applicable) and participate in rehabilitative programs specified by CYFD, such as counseling, education, or job training.
Revocation: Payments can be stopped if the individual commits a new felony, violates parole, or fails to engage in the required programs.
Annual Review: CYFD must report yearly to the legislature on the program’s outcomes, including recidivism rates and participant progress.

https://legiscan.com/NM/text/HB255/id/3099637

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty pathetic really. What a backward state, not that we didn’t know that. I wonder if they do the thing where some shooters fire blanks.

The deceased admitted his culpability for the crimes charged.

He tied up the parents of his ex GF, picked up a baseball bat, and went back and forth between to separate rooms, smashing each of them in the head, until he had killed them both, slowly.

Can you imagine the terror those two innocent people felt during the prolonged time it took the killer to murder them both?

None of that is relevant. It’s a pathetic way for a society to deal with the issue. But it is South Carolina, so not surprising.

If SC could only be a state in which liberal attorneys and judges make sure criminals walk freely and are given opportunities to commit more crimes, are released after committing violent crimes, are given short sentences, and are released even if sentenced to life in prison. Oh, the injustice!
Who cares about their victims...being beaten with a baseball bat isn't so bad...but death by firing squad is heinous.

Very poor logic, and poorly argued. You must be from South Carolina.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty pathetic really. What a backward state, not that we didn’t know that. I wonder if they do the thing where some shooters fire blanks.

The deceased admitted his culpability for the crimes charged.

He tied up the parents of his ex GF, picked up a baseball bat, and went back and forth between to separate rooms, smashing each of them in the head, until he had killed them both, slowly.

Can you imagine the terror those two innocent people felt during the prolonged time it took the killer to murder them both?

None of that is relevant. It’s a pathetic way for a society to deal with the issue. But it is South Carolina, so not surprising.

If SC could only be a state in which liberal attorneys and judges make sure criminals walk freely and are given opportunities to commit more crimes, are released after committing violent crimes, are given short sentences, and are released even if sentenced to life in prison. Oh, the injustice!
Who cares about their victims...being beaten with a baseball bat isn't so bad...but death by firing squad is heinous.

Very poor logic, and poorly argued. You must be from South Carolina.

Nope. But I'm sick of criminals getting more sympathy than their victims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The death penalty is completely barbaric.

Barbaric is slicing people apart with knives or axes, or beating them until they exsanguinate. Shooting someone directly into the heart is what countries allow their soldiers to do. If you are sentenced to death make your own choice as this person did.

You are no better than the murder slicing apart people with knives. You just do it under the name of state. I’m not saying don’t punish someone for their crimes but death penalty is bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty pathetic really. What a backward state, not that we didn’t know that. I wonder if they do the thing where some shooters fire blanks.

The deceased admitted his culpability for the crimes charged.

He tied up the parents of his ex GF, picked up a baseball bat, and went back and forth between to separate rooms, smashing each of them in the head, until he had killed them both, slowly.

Can you imagine the terror those two innocent people felt during the prolonged time it took the killer to murder them both?

None of that is relevant. It’s a pathetic way for a society to deal with the issue. But it is South Carolina, so not surprising.

If SC could only be a state in which liberal attorneys and judges make sure criminals walk freely and are given opportunities to commit more crimes, are released after committing violent crimes, are given short sentences, and are released even if sentenced to life in prison. Oh, the injustice!
Who cares about their victims...being beaten with a baseball bat isn't so bad...but death by firing squad is heinous.

Very poor logic, and poorly argued. You must be from South Carolina.

Nope. But I'm sick of criminals getting more sympathy than their victims.

No one is giving criminals more sympathy than victims. Being anti-death penalty is anti-murder, even murder done by the state. It’s saying that murder is murder and you can’t rationalize one method over the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is not a great issue for Democrats. Even in the most liberal cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles, people are done with progressive DAs and judges and equity and restorative justice and letting violent criminals walk free. As always, the pendulum will swing in the other direction. I think most voters - even in blue states - are perfectly fine with the return of some Old Testament justice for the worst and most heinous criminals. If you look at the suffering inflicted by Death Row inmates, it's impossible to feel sympathy for them. They are genuinely horrible people.

My quibble would be about the fairness of the process. But we've been talking about that ever since OJ. Rich people don't get the death penalty. In any event, if I were a Democratic strategist I wouldn't touch this issue at all. A reflexive anti-death penalty stance is a terrible look for Democrats today. Not unreasonably, most people feel Democrats are much more sympathetic with violent criminals than they are with their victims. It's one more reason the Democratic "brand" is garbage these days. As for a firing squad, it's definitely more humane than the incompetently administered cocktail of drugs that are typically used.

I can recall right wingers vigorously defending Brock Turner, George Zimmerman, and Derek Chauvin, not to mention Trump pardoning J6ers and inviting Andrew Tate to Mar-a-Lago. Spare us the tired tropes about who’s soft on crime.

This! Such nonsense from MAGA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Key Provisions

Juvenile Restoration Program
Purpose: The bill sets up a "Juvenile Restoration Program" under the Children, Youth and Families Department (CYFD). The goal is to aid juveniles convicted of first-degree murder, second-degree murder, or voluntary manslaughter in transitioning back into the community post-release.
Eligibility: Applies to individuals who were under 18 at the time of their offense and have served their sentence or been paroled.
Financial Assistance
Amount: Eligible individuals receive $2,000 per month.
Duration: Payments last for up to 48 months (4 years) or until the individual turns 25, whichever comes first.
Funding: The money comes from a newly created "Juvenile Restoration Fund," which will be supported by state appropriations and potentially other sources like grants or donations.
Conditions and Oversight
Compliance: Recipients must follow parole conditions (if applicable) and participate in rehabilitative programs specified by CYFD, such as counseling, education, or job training.
Revocation: Payments can be stopped if the individual commits a new felony, violates parole, or fails to engage in the required programs.
Annual Review: CYFD must report yearly to the legislature on the program’s outcomes, including recidivism rates and participant progress.

https://legiscan.com/NM/text/HB255/id/3099637

Wow, so the lawmakers are encouraging kids to murder??
"Kill someone before you are an adult, and you get released in a few years and paid thousands a month for years!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty pathetic really. What a backward state, not that we didn’t know that. I wonder if they do the thing where some shooters fire blanks.

The deceased admitted his culpability for the crimes charged.

He tied up the parents of his ex GF, picked up a baseball bat, and went back and forth between to separate rooms, smashing each of them in the head, until he had killed them both, slowly.

Can you imagine the terror those two innocent people felt during the prolonged time it took the killer to murder them both?

None of that is relevant. It’s a pathetic way for a society to deal with the issue. But it is South Carolina, so not surprising.

If SC could only be a state in which liberal attorneys and judges make sure criminals walk freely and are given opportunities to commit more crimes, are released after committing violent crimes, are given short sentences, and are released even if sentenced to life in prison. Oh, the injustice!
Who cares about their victims...being beaten with a baseball bat isn't so bad...but death by firing squad is heinous.

Very poor logic, and poorly argued. You must be from South Carolina.

Nope. But I'm sick of criminals getting more sympathy than their victims.

No one is giving criminals more sympathy than victims. Being anti-death penalty is anti-murder, even murder done by the state. It’s saying that murder is murder and you can’t rationalize one method over the other.

PP here. Then verbalize as much sympathy and outrage for victims. I'm not a MAGA voter, and I'm actually opposed to the death penalty, too. I'm also disgusted by the violent criminals getting sympathy and early release for violent, horrific crimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Key Provisions

Juvenile Restoration Program
Purpose: The bill sets up a "Juvenile Restoration Program" under the Children, Youth and Families Department (CYFD). The goal is to aid juveniles convicted of first-degree murder, second-degree murder, or voluntary manslaughter in transitioning back into the community post-release.
Eligibility: Applies to individuals who were under 18 at the time of their offense and have served their sentence or been paroled.
Financial Assistance
Amount: Eligible individuals receive $2,000 per month.
Duration: Payments last for up to 48 months (4 years) or until the individual turns 25, whichever comes first.
Funding: The money comes from a newly created "Juvenile Restoration Fund," which will be supported by state appropriations and potentially other sources like grants or donations.
Conditions and Oversight
Compliance: Recipients must follow parole conditions (if applicable) and participate in rehabilitative programs specified by CYFD, such as counseling, education, or job training.
Revocation: Payments can be stopped if the individual commits a new felony, violates parole, or fails to engage in the required programs.
Annual Review: CYFD must report yearly to the legislature on the program’s outcomes, including recidivism rates and participant progress.

https://legiscan.com/NM/text/HB255/id/3099637

Wow, so the lawmakers are encouraging kids to murder??
"Kill someone before you are an adult, and you get released in a few years and paid thousands a month for years!"

Okay, let’s dispel a few of the lies here…

1) The URL you linked goes to an amendment to the bill that renames the Juvenile Community Corrections Act to the Juvenile Community Connections Act.

2) Here’s the URL with the text of the bill: https://www.nmlegis.gov/Sessions/25%20Regular/bills/house/HB0255.pdf

3) The bill mentions nothing about a “Juvenile Restoration Fund” or a $2000/month stipends for juvenile offenders.

4) The bill delineates a grant fund for communities, municipalities, and organizations to provide programs and services for crime prevention and rehabilitation of juvenile offenders. The money does not go to individuals.

It’s important to get information directly from the source, and not from biased outrage/clickbait outlets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Key Provisions

Juvenile Restoration Program
Purpose: The bill sets up a "Juvenile Restoration Program" under the Children, Youth and Families Department (CYFD). The goal is to aid juveniles convicted of first-degree murder, second-degree murder, or voluntary manslaughter in transitioning back into the community post-release.
Eligibility: Applies to individuals who were under 18 at the time of their offense and have served their sentence or been paroled.
Financial Assistance
Amount: Eligible individuals receive $2,000 per month.
Duration: Payments last for up to 48 months (4 years) or until the individual turns 25, whichever comes first.
Funding: The money comes from a newly created "Juvenile Restoration Fund," which will be supported by state appropriations and potentially other sources like grants or donations.
Conditions and Oversight
Compliance: Recipients must follow parole conditions (if applicable) and participate in rehabilitative programs specified by CYFD, such as counseling, education, or job training.
Revocation: Payments can be stopped if the individual commits a new felony, violates parole, or fails to engage in the required programs.
Annual Review: CYFD must report yearly to the legislature on the program’s outcomes, including recidivism rates and participant progress.

https://legiscan.com/NM/text/HB255/id/3099637

Surely this is a joke?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pretty pathetic really. What a backward state, not that we didn’t know that. I wonder if they do the thing where some shooters fire blanks.

The deceased admitted his culpability for the crimes charged.

He tied up the parents of his ex GF, picked up a baseball bat, and went back and forth between to separate rooms, smashing each of them in the head, until he had killed them both, slowly.

Can you imagine the terror those two innocent people felt during the prolonged time it took the killer to murder them both?

None of that is relevant. It’s a pathetic way for a society to deal with the issue. But it is South Carolina, so not surprising.

If SC could only be a state in which liberal attorneys and judges make sure criminals walk freely and are given opportunities to commit more crimes, are released after committing violent crimes, are given short sentences, and are released even if sentenced to life in prison. Oh, the injustice!
Who cares about their victims...being beaten with a baseball bat isn't so bad...but death by firing squad is heinous.

Very poor logic, and poorly argued. You must be from South Carolina.

Nope. But I'm sick of criminals getting more sympathy than their victims.

That’s not a very good response. No one is sympathetic to this guy. But we don’t need to go back barbaric stuff like this. Maybe we could hang, draw and quarter them, and put each part in a corner of the country. Setting people on fire might be good too, that always drew a crowd.