DC giving 50 percent discount on traffic tickets to bad drivers, so long as they're poor

[Anonymous]

Ummm, DC driver here who has gotten traffic cam tickets in the past and at no point was there dangerous driving happening. It has felt like DC was hoping everyone would just start cycling (no hate to cyclists) because going 36 miles in a 25 zone (so every street) is $100 I believe. And when it recently snowed the ticket was $250 for being in a snow evacuation (or some such) route. I am for safe streets for pedestrians and cyclists but me staying at 25 mph on an empty 4 lane Ave at 2 am is not meaningful for public safety.

[Anonymous]

^ and the $250 snow evacuation route ticket was on a residential street that was filled with folks who were parked in front of their house and inside while snowed in. I had to walk down the block to find a sign by the bus stop showing one side of the street was a snow route.
Netting $750 a week means that ticket hits way different than were I earning $1250 a week. I see some cannot understand that or want to say "don't get a ticket" period. Those folks probably would not even speak to me or acknowledge if I held a door open for them. They not like us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ummm, DC driver here who has gotten traffic cam tickets in the past and at no point was there dangerous driving happening. It has felt like DC was hoping everyone would just start cycling (no hate to cyclists) because going 36 miles in a 25 zone (so every street) is $100 I believe. And when it recently snowed the ticket was $250 for being in a snow evacuation (or some such) route. I am for safe streets for pedestrians and cyclists but me staying at 25 mph on an empty 4 lane Ave at 2 am is not meaningful for public safety.

Given your IQ, you should get a 50% discount on your speeding tickets.

[Anonymous]

Treating people differently under the law is a really good way to lose federal funding. Bravo DC!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ummm, DC driver here who has gotten traffic cam tickets in the past and at no point was there dangerous driving happening. It has felt like DC was hoping everyone would just start cycling (no hate to cyclists) because going 36 miles in a 25 zone (so every street) is $100 I believe. And when it recently snowed the ticket was $250 for being in a snow evacuation (or some such) route. I am for safe streets for pedestrians and cyclists but me staying at 25 mph on an empty 4 lane Ave at 2 am is not meaningful for public safety.

Given your IQ, you should get a 50% discount on your speeding tickets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I applaud this heartily. Fines are regressive taxes - they are practically nothing for the wealthy but can become a spiraling burden for the poor.

Regressive taxes are bad.

A spiraling burden for the poor WHO REFUSE TO DRIVE SAFELY. They could just obey the speed limit and they'd owe nothing at all.

As the woke progressives would have us believe, "those people" just can't act like evolved human beings and take responsibility like the rest of us adults. Therefore, it would be unjust to hold them fully responsible for their actions.

Worse, poor areas aren’t entitled to have safe streets?

[Anonymous]

To recap:

14 year old driving an ATV down the middle of the street? No ticket.

Scooter blows stop sign at 40mph? No ticket.

Bicyclist, with children on back, no helmets, plows through intersection despite not having right of way? No ticket.

Poor driver, doing 60mph in a 25mph? 50 percent off their ticket.

Nonpoor driver failing to sit at a stop sign at an empty intersection for a full three sections, with bumper hanging over crosswalk? $100 ticket, doubled if not paid in 30 days.

Yes, this all sounds very fair now.

[Anonymous]

I’m fine with this (and increasing fines for richer people) but it needs to be coupled with enforcement and taking away licenses from egregious repeat offenders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's this kind of stuff that got Trump elected.

+1. At a certain point the tax paying, law abiding citizens get tired of being played for suckers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's this kind of stuff that got Trump elected.

+1. At a certain point the tax paying, law abiding citizens get tired of being played for suckers.

Wait, do you actually pay to ride the subway and the bus? Loser.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, my family's income is well over twice what it would take to get food stamps, so it makes sense that we would pay twice as much for tickets.

If I was ever to become impoverished, and had to budget as hard as people on food stamps do, I'm pretty sure that the $100 once in a while we spend on tickets would be pretty close to most of my family's unobligated spending money for the month. So, I don't begrudge the decrease.

Congratulations. You must feel very good about yourself.

Government fines and punishments should be the same for everyone.

I don’t know why you fail to understand that a $100 punishment is equivalent to a $1000 punishment for someone who makes 10 times more. The point is to feel the weight of the punishment. Someone who is making a million is not going to feel punished with a $100 the same way that someone making $30,000 a year. It’s like saying everyone gets 10 years in prison no matter the crime.

I don't know why you don't understand that a government punishment should be the same for everyone.

I do, which is why I applaud this. Punish people equally. A poor person is going to feel a $100 a lot worse than you will. So punishment achieved. You will pay it and not think anything about it. Do you always make circular arguments by simply repeating the same?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To recap:

14 year old driving an ATV down the middle of the street? No ticket.

Scooter blows stop sign at 40mph? No ticket.

Bicyclist, with children on back, no helmets, plows through intersection despite not having right of way? No ticket.

Poor driver, doing 60mph in a 25mph? 50 percent off their ticket.

Nonpoor driver failing to sit at a stop sign at an empty intersection for a full three sections, with bumper hanging over crosswalk? $100 ticket, doubled if not paid in 30 days.

Yes, this all sounds very fair now.

Aww bless your heart. I'm guessing you are the driver who failed to stop at an intersection. Do you feel like you should make up your own rules as you go along?

No one is saying we shouldn't be giving out tickets for violations, you know that right? That includes you.

[Anonymous]

Imagine if the Council cared about prosocial poor people as much as it cared about antisocial poor people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, my family's income is well over twice what it would take to get food stamps, so it makes sense that we would pay twice as much for tickets.

If I was ever to become impoverished, and had to budget as hard as people on food stamps do, I'm pretty sure that the $100 once in a while we spend on tickets would be pretty close to most of my family's unobligated spending money for the month. So, I don't begrudge the decrease.

Congratulations. You must feel very good about yourself.

Government fines and punishments should be the same for everyone.

I don’t know why you fail to understand that a $100 punishment is equivalent to a $1000 punishment for someone who makes 10 times more. The point is to feel the weight of the punishment. Someone who is making a million is not going to feel punished with a $100 the same way that someone making $30,000 a year. It’s like saying everyone gets 10 years in prison no matter the crime.

I don't know why you don't understand that a government punishment should be the same for everyone.

I do, which is why I applaud this. Punish people equally. A poor person is going to feel a $100 a lot worse than you will. So punishment achieved. You will pay it and not think anything about it. Do you always make circular arguments by simply repeating the same?

You don't seem to know what the word "equally" means.

Equal justice under the law is an important core concept and not something we should be throwing away.

[Anonymous]

They need their driving licenses revoked ASAP