God and the Crash at National

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm bothered by the crosses erected on GW Parkway across from Gravelly Point. There were people of many different faiths that died in these crashes. It's just gross.

Their friends and family are welcome to erect whatever symbols and icons that would bring them peace. You do know that you would be abridging 1A rights by preventing this display? Not to mention, it would be horrifically unpopular.

You think those crosses were erected by friends and families? No, they were likely some random group trying to politicize a tragedy. And a group who only care about Christians (which is what Jesus would, do right?). So don't pretend like they have good intentions or are just some loving memorial set up by loved ones.

Citation?

PP is expressing an opinion. citation not needed and would be inappropriate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.

It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.

It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.

You've just alienated religious people for how they (allegedly) grieve during a tragedy. But please, show us a way to grieve that will really bring people together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm bothered by the crosses erected on GW Parkway across from Gravelly Point. There were people of many different faiths that died in these crashes. It's just gross.

Their friends and family are welcome to erect whatever symbols and icons that would bring them peace. You do know that you would be abridging 1A rights by preventing this display? Not to mention, it would be horrifically unpopular.

You think those crosses were erected by friends and families? No, they were likely some random group trying to politicize a tragedy. And a group who only care about Christians (which is what Jesus would, do right?). So don't pretend like they have good intentions or are just some loving memorial set up by loved ones.

Citation?

Here ya go. They were put up by a Christian "artist." https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/potomac-river-crash-makeshift-memorial/6130526

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm bothered by the crosses erected on GW Parkway across from Gravelly Point. There were people of many different faiths that died in these crashes. It's just gross.

Their friends and family are welcome to erect whatever symbols and icons that would bring them peace. You do know that you would be abridging 1A rights by preventing this display? Not to mention, it would be horrifically unpopular.

You think those crosses were erected by friends and families? No, they were likely some random group trying to politicize a tragedy. And a group who only care about Christians (which is what Jesus would, do right?). So don't pretend like they have good intentions or are just some loving memorial set up by loved ones.

Citation?

PP is expressing an opinion. citation not needed and would be inappropriate.

Speculation that was a strawman. If you want to argue and defend a point, I suggest you should be somewhat competent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm bothered by the crosses erected on GW Parkway across from Gravelly Point. There were people of many different faiths that died in these crashes. It's just gross.

Their friends and family are welcome to erect whatever symbols and icons that would bring them peace. You do know that you would be abridging 1A rights by preventing this display? Not to mention, it would be horrifically unpopular.

You think those crosses were erected by friends and families? No, they were likely some random group trying to politicize a tragedy. And a group who only care about Christians (which is what Jesus would, do right?). So don't pretend like they have good intentions or are just some loving memorial set up by loved ones.

Citation?

Here ya go. They were put up by a Christian "artist." https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/potomac-river-crash-makeshift-memorial/6130526

I am so sorry that it wasn't piss in a jar. I am sure you would approve of that. Why is artist in scare quotes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am Muslim and am struggling with my faith, particularly after Gaza. But I suspect a lot of people don’t give up on faith altogether for the same reason that’s stopping me: we have nothing else.

What do you mean "nothing else"? You've got common sense, right? and probably a whole community of like minded muslims if you looked for them.

+1. and good for you for questioning. There are many organizations/forums for people in your shoes PP. Although...I dont believe it's a choice for you to "give up on", it is a matter of what you are convinced of. If you don't believe, but WANT to because there is "nothing else", it means you are an atheist that is afraid. Which is where a lot of us began.

It has been my firm belief for a long time, now, that if we really came together as a human race without the trappings of religion and without the placebo effect of religion, we may find that humanity can evolve as there would certainly be less division and less violence related to religious beliefs.

[Anonymous]

I hate when there is a near miss and someone says “God wanted you to be safe/saved/etc.”

Did God want other who were not so lucky to die? How callous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I don’t get religious people. If god exists, god caused the plane crash and murdered those people. It’s sick.

But religious people don't see it that way. They think that God is there to comfort the living. It's very self-centered.

How exactly does he do that? What "comfort" does he actually give? Is it real comfort, or just the effect of believing there is some higher purpose and that you will see the person again? These are serious questions, not meant as sarcasm.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I don’t get religious people. If god exists, god caused the plane crash and murdered those people. It’s sick.

Clearly you don't get religious people, since that's but what religious people believe.

How did the plane crash happen, then. The Devil? Do you think God shows up to comfort people afterwards, but can't stop the crash?

People need to be comforted, sure, but they do it by getting together - and in some cases they praise God , for what, it's hard to know. Maybe for sparing them such a horrible fate.

God is always responsible when things go right. Never guilty when things go wrong.

+1. Yes, then it is "free will", but when things go right, did god override free will. Even the concept makes zero logical sense, and I know people will say it isn't supposed to, it's all faith, we can't understand gods plan, etc. But even that makes zero sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Muslim and am struggling with my faith, particularly after Gaza. But I suspect a lot of people don’t give up on faith altogether for the same reason that’s stopping me: we have nothing else.

What do you mean "nothing else"? You've got common sense, right? and probably a whole community of like minded muslims if you looked for them.

+1. and good for you for questioning. There are many organizations/forums for people in your shoes PP. Although...I dont believe it's a choice for you to "give up on", it is a matter of what you are convinced of. If you don't believe, but WANT to because there is "nothing else", it means you are an atheist that is afraid. Which is where a lot of us began.

It has been my firm belief for a long time, now, that if we really came together as a human race without the trappings of religion and without the placebo effect of religion, we may find that humanity can evolve as there would certainly be less division and less violence related to religious beliefs.

The human condition terrifies me, and that is what I meant by nothing else. Without faith, we have nothing to provide solace amid the precariousness of life. Earth is so magical—just being out in the sun fills me with so much joy and love—and I am shocked every time I am reminded of our mortality. My mind just doesn’t understand it and that’s why I’m turning to faith.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Muslim and am struggling with my faith, particularly after Gaza. But I suspect a lot of people don’t give up on faith altogether for the same reason that’s stopping me: we have nothing else.

What do you mean "nothing else"? You've got common sense, right? and probably a whole community of like minded muslims if you looked for them.

+1. and good for you for questioning. There are many organizations/forums for people in your shoes PP. Although...I dont believe it's a choice for you to "give up on", it is a matter of what you are convinced of. If you don't believe, but WANT to because there is "nothing else", it means you are an atheist that is afraid. Which is where a lot of us began.

It has been my firm belief for a long time, now, that if we really came together as a human race without the trappings of religion and without the placebo effect of religion, we may find that humanity can evolve as there would certainly be less division and less violence related to religious beliefs.

I like to think you're right, but I fear that I see humans as being tribal, and that's where religion came from. If religion went away, we'd still be tribal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Muslim and am struggling with my faith, particularly after Gaza. But I suspect a lot of people don’t give up on faith altogether for the same reason that’s stopping me: we have nothing else.

What do you mean "nothing else"? You've got common sense, right? and probably a whole community of like minded muslims if you looked for them.

+1. and good for you for questioning. There are many organizations/forums for people in your shoes PP. Although...I dont believe it's a choice for you to "give up on", it is a matter of what you are convinced of. If you don't believe, but WANT to because there is "nothing else", it means you are an atheist that is afraid. Which is where a lot of us began.

It has been my firm belief for a long time, now, that if we really came together as a human race without the trappings of religion and without the placebo effect of religion, we may find that humanity can evolve as there would certainly be less division and less violence related to religious beliefs.

turning to faith = believing in fairy tales.

The human condition terrifies me, and that is what I meant by nothing else. Without faith, we have nothing to provide solace amid the precariousness of life. Earth is so magical—just being out in the sun fills me with so much joy and love—and I am shocked every time I am reminded of our mortality. My mind just doesn’t understand it and that’s why I’m turning to faith.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am Muslim and am struggling with my faith, particularly after Gaza. But I suspect a lot of people don’t give up on faith altogether for the same reason that’s stopping me: we have nothing else.

What do you mean "nothing else"? You've got common sense, right? and probably a whole community of like minded muslims if you looked for them.

+1. and good for you for questioning. There are many organizations/forums for people in your shoes PP. Although...I dont believe it's a choice for you to "give up on", it is a matter of what you are convinced of. If you don't believe, but WANT to because there is "nothing else", it means you are an atheist that is afraid. Which is where a lot of us began.

It has been my firm belief for a long time, now, that if we really came together as a human race without the trappings of religion and without the placebo effect of religion, we may find that humanity can evolve as there would certainly be less division and less violence related to religious beliefs.

The human condition terrifies me, and that is what I meant by nothing else. Without faith, we have nothing to provide solace amid the precariousness of life. Earth is so magical—just being out in the sun fills me with so much joy and love—and I am shocked every time I am reminded of our mortality. My mind just doesn’t understand it and that’s why I’m turning to faith.

turning to faith = believing in fairy tales.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.

It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.

It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.

You've just alienated religious people for how they (allegedly) grieve during a tragedy. But please, show us a way to grieve that will really bring people together.

feeling alienated? Don't blame pp. Look to yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People need to come together after something awful happens, like the crash at National Airport last night, but they don't need religion to do it.

It makes me sick to hear people invoke God for comfort after the crash, when God, if he existed, supposedly could have prevented the crash.

It would be nice if people could just come together after a tragedy without pulling religion into it.

Look up quantum theory as a bridge to God