God and the Crash at National

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
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It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

God doesn't control things? I thought people believed that he was omnipotent and reigned forever in heaven where you'd go when you died if you followed his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I don’t get religious people. If god exists, god caused the plane crash and murdered those people. It’s sick.

But religious people don't see it that way. They think that God is there to comfort the living. It's very self-centered.

So he murders your friends and family and tells you that he is the only one that can comfort you.

Sounds like an abusive ex.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate when there is a near miss and someone says “God wanted you to be safe/saved/etc.”

Did God want other who were not so lucky to die? How callous.

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God liked person an enough to keep them safe. F*** person b, c and d though!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hate when there is a near miss and someone says “God wanted you to be safe/saved/etc.”

Did God want other who were not so lucky to die? How callous.

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God liked person an enough to keep them safe. F*** person b, c and d though!!

Person a*

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

Gibberish. This are just words that don’t amount to anything.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

Gibberish. This are just words that don’t amount to anything.

+1. God is a positive force ????? but he doesn't control things ????? how do you know??

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

God doesn't control things? I thought people believed that he was omnipotent and reigned forever in heaven where you'd go when you died if you followed his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity.

The rules are to love others as yourself, and God with all your heart.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

God doesn't control things? I thought people believed that he was omnipotent and reigned forever in heaven where you'd go when you died if you followed his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity.

The rules are to love others as yourself, and God with all your heart.

God has lots of rules, as I remember. Also, as stated above earlier, he's omnipotent and reigns forever in heaven where you go when you die if you follow his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity. Correct?

And that's just the Christian God. There are other gods, with some different rules. Currently, it's OK to switch around among gods, but it's considered bad by many people to not believe in any God at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

God doesn't control things? I thought people believed that he was omnipotent and reigned forever in heaven where you'd go when you died if you followed his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity.

The rules are to love others as yourself, and God with all your heart.

God has lots of rules, as I remember. Also, as stated above earlier, he's omnipotent and reigns forever in heaven where you go when you die if you follow his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity. Correct?

And that's just the Christian God. There are other gods, with some different rules. Currently, it's OK to switch around among gods, but it's considered bad by many people to not believe in any God at all.

It is all confusing but isn’t it the devil who comes in the form of confusion?
I believe there are 2 higher beings, forces, entities (whatever you want to call it) that influence us as individuals and collectively as a society. It’s a constant struggle of good v evil. It could not be more apparent than what is happening right now.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

God doesn't control things? I thought people believed that he was omnipotent and reigned forever in heaven where you'd go when you died if you followed his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity.

The rules are to love others as yourself, and God with all your heart.

God has lots of rules, as I remember. Also, as stated above earlier, he's omnipotent and reigns forever in heaven where you go when you die if you follow his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity. Correct?

And that's just the Christian God. There are other gods, with some different rules. Currently, it's OK to switch around among gods, but it's considered bad by many people to not believe in any God at all.

It is all confusing but isn’t it the devil who comes in the form of confusion?
I believe there are 2 higher beings, forces, entities (whatever you want to call it) that influence us as individuals and collectively as a society. It’s a constant struggle of good v evil. It could not be more apparent than what is happening right now.

Confusion comes from current day theists trying to justify bronze age belief systems in a scientifically advanced modern world. They're trying to force a square peg into a round hole.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

God doesn't control things? I thought people believed that he was omnipotent and reigned forever in heaven where you'd go when you died if you followed his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity.

The rules are to love others as yourself, and God with all your heart.

God has lots of rules, as I remember. Also, as stated above earlier, he's omnipotent and reigns forever in heaven where you go when you die if you follow his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity. Correct?

And that's just the Christian God. There are other gods, with some different rules. Currently, it's OK to switch around among gods, but it's considered bad by many people to not believe in any God at all.

It is all confusing but isn’t it the devil who comes in the form of confusion?
I believe there are 2 higher beings, forces, entities (whatever you want to call it) that influence us as individuals and collectively as a society. It’s a constant struggle of good v evil. It could not be more apparent than what is happening right now.

Confusion comes from current day theists trying to justify bronze age belief systems in a scientifically advanced modern world. They're trying to force a square peg into a round hole.

True. It still comes down to good v evil. I cannot recall a time in our history where the stakes were higher. Our planet and our humanity has been compromised to a point where it is not repairable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

God doesn't control things? I thought people believed that he was omnipotent and reigned forever in heaven where you'd go when you died if you followed his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity.

The rules are to love others as yourself, and God with all your heart.

God has lots of rules, as I remember. Also, as stated above earlier, he's omnipotent and reigns forever in heaven where you go when you die if you follow his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity. Correct?

And that's just the Christian God. There are other gods, with some different rules. Currently, it's OK to switch around among gods, but it's considered bad by many people to not believe in any God at all.

It is all confusing but isn’t it the devil who comes in the form of confusion?
I believe there are 2 higher beings, forces, entities (whatever you want to call it) that influence us as individuals and collectively as a society. It’s a constant struggle of good v evil. It could not be more apparent than what is happening right now.

Confusion comes from current day theists trying to justify bronze age belief systems in a scientifically advanced modern world. They're trying to force a square peg into a round hole.

True. It still comes down to good v evil. I cannot recall a time in our history where the stakes were higher. Our planet and our humanity has been compromised to a point where it is not repairable.

I don't believe in an absolute good or evil. Those are judgements of actions and how they affect individuals/society. Its more a point about selfishness versus acting for the common good. What you may call evil, I view as selfishness.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

God doesn't control things? I thought people believed that he was omnipotent and reigned forever in heaven where you'd go when you died if you followed his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity.

The rules are to love others as yourself, and God with all your heart.

God has lots of rules, as I remember. Also, as stated above earlier, he's omnipotent and reigns forever in heaven where you go when you die if you follow his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity. Correct?

And that's just the Christian God. There are other gods, with some different rules. Currently, it's OK to switch around among gods, but it's considered bad by many people to not believe in any God at all.

It is all confusing but isn’t it the devil who comes in the form of confusion?
I believe there are 2 higher beings, forces, entities (whatever you want to call it) that influence us as individuals and collectively as a society. It’s a constant struggle of good v evil. It could not be more apparent than what is happening right now.

Confusion comes from current day theists trying to justify bronze age belief systems in a scientifically advanced modern world. They're trying to force a square peg into a round hole.

True. It still comes down to good v evil. I cannot recall a time in our history where the stakes were higher. Our planet and our humanity has been compromised to a point where it is not repairable.

I don't believe in an absolute good or evil. Those are judgements of actions and how they affect individuals/society. It's more a point about selfishness versus acting for the common good. What you may call evil, I view as selfishness.

Call it whatever you want. One hurts and the other helps.

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

God doesn't control things? I thought people believed that he was omnipotent and reigned forever in heaven where you'd go when you died if you followed his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity.

The rules are to love others as yourself, and God with all your heart.

God has lots of rules, as I remember. Also, as stated above earlier, he's omnipotent and reigns forever in heaven where you go when you die if you follow his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity. Correct?

And that's just the Christian God. There are other gods, with some different rules. Currently, it's OK to switch around among gods, but it's considered bad by many people to not believe in any God at all.

It is all confusing but isn’t it the devil who comes in the form of confusion?
I believe there are 2 higher beings, forces, entities (whatever you want to call it) that influence us as individuals and collectively as a society. It’s a constant struggle of good v evil. It could not be more apparent than what is happening right now.

Confusion comes from current day theists trying to justify bronze age belief systems in a scientifically advanced modern world. They're trying to force a square peg into a round hole.

True. It still comes down to good v evil. I cannot recall a time in our history where the stakes were higher. Our planet and our humanity has been compromised to a point where it is not repairable.

I don't believe in an absolute good or evil. Those are judgements of actions and how they affect individuals/society. Its more a point about selfishness versus acting for the common good. What you may call evil, I view as selfishness.

The other key point is that good and evil are not external. They don't come from some supernatural entity or being. They are based on actions. Decisions made by individuals and as those individuals act collectively.

Thus, combatting evil is not about crosses and holy water, its about making better choices.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I believe in a higher power and intelligent design, but not that God is ever loving. If that's true, explain the Holocaust.

Read Lord of the Flies to explain the holocaust.

What does Lord of the Flies have to do with an ever lasting God?
-NP

It has to do with how evil comes into the world. Through us.

That doesn't answer the question of why an ever loving God would allow that kind of evil to happen.
Or are you saying God uses human monstrosity to teach us good from evil?

No,

I'm saying that God is a positive force that humans choose to follow or not. He doesn't control things at that level on earth. We bring God into the world or not.

God doesn't control things? I thought people believed that he was omnipotent and reigned forever in heaven where you'd go when you died if you followed his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity.

The rules are to love others as yourself, and God with all your heart.

God has lots of rules, as I remember. Also, as stated above earlier, he's omnipotent and reigns forever in heaven where you go when you die if you follow his rules. And you didn't follow his rules, you'd go to hell for eternity. Correct?

And that's just the Christian God. There are other gods, with some different rules. Currently, it's OK to switch around among gods, but it's considered bad by many people to not believe in any God at all.

It is all confusing but isn’t it the devil who comes in the form of confusion?
I believe there are 2 higher beings, forces, entities (whatever you want to call it) that influence us as individuals and collectively as a society. It’s a constant struggle of good v evil. It could not be more apparent than what is happening right now.

Confusion comes from current day theists trying to justify bronze age belief systems in a scientifically advanced modern world. They're trying to force a square peg into a round hole.

True. It still comes down to good v evil. I cannot recall a time in our history where the stakes were higher. Our planet and our humanity has been compromised to a point where it is not repairable.

I don't believe in an absolute good or evil. Those are judgements of actions and how they affect individuals/society. Its more a point about selfishness versus acting for the common good. What you may call evil, I view as selfishness.

The other key point is that good and evil are not external. They don't come from some supernatural entity or being. They are based on actions. Decisions made by individuals and as those individuals act collectively.

Thus, combatting evil is not about crosses and holy water, its about making better choices.

But for some religious people, combatting evil IS about crosses and holy water -- and prayer and other rituals and incantations depending on the religion being practiced. Most religious people do more than the things already mentioned. Many will also go to battle, while praying for the safe return of the combatants, but only the combatant on their side, not the others, even if they are the same religion.