Magnet HS results and the waitpool

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Anonymous wrote:Incoming Freshman Class Profile
Information about the class of 2028 is as follows:

Total Enrollment

913

Average GPA

4.54

ACT Scores

Composite, 50th percentile: 34
Math Scores, 50th percentile: 34
SAT Scores

Combined Math/Critical Reading SAT Scores, 50th percentile: 1470
SAT Math Scores, 50th percentile: 760
Honors College and College Park Scholars

254 (27.8%) first-year enrolled ENGR students are in the Honors College
166 (18.1%) first-year enrolled ENGR students are in College Park Scholars

what is this?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the poster with the GE senior. FWIW- My kid was accepted to UMD Engineering Friday. In 2024, 20 kids that were accepted to Engineering from Poolesville chose UMD Engineering. In 2024, Poolesville High was the number 1 school that UMD Engineering pulled from. Will attach the link shortly…

OP here. Wow, congratulations! I’ve heard that getting accepted into Engineering is really difficult. I hope my child can go to UMD as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

makes sense - but they are not supposed to know MS?

Category of MS is different from knowing it's Silver Creek or TPMS.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

That's the procedure for the ES and MS magnets but not HS.

For high school, extracurriculars, honors/awards, and the essay carry real weight.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

That's the procedure for the ES and MS magnets but not HS.

For high school, extracurriculars, honors/awards, and the essay carry real weight.

This is a factor for HS admission

^ services such as receiving special education services, ELD- English Language Development, 504 accommodations plan and Free and Reduced Meals

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

That's the procedure for the ES and MS magnets but not HS.

For high school, extracurriculars, honors/awards, and the essay carry real weight.

This is a factor for HS admission

^ services such as receiving special education services, ELD- English Language Development, 504 accommodations plan and Free and Reduced Meals

Sure but that's not what PP said. If anything that policy is a boost to kids in low FARMS schools because they have the resources for testing.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

That's the procedure for the ES and MS magnets but not HS.

For high school, extracurriculars, honors/awards, and the essay carry real weight.

This is a factor for HS admission

^ services such as receiving special education services, ELD- English Language Development, 504 accommodations plan and Free and Reduced Meals

Sure but that's not what PP said. If anything that policy is a boost to kids in low FARMS schools because they have the resources for testing.

Anyone can request MCPS to do such testing for free.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

That's the procedure for the ES and MS magnets but not HS.

For high school, extracurriculars, honors/awards, and the essay carry real weight.

This is a factor for HS admission

^ services such as receiving special education services, ELD- English Language Development, 504 accommodations plan and Free and Reduced Meals

Sure but that's not what PP said. If anything that policy is a boost to kids in low FARMS schools because they have the resources for testing.

Anyone can request MCPS to do such testing for free.

Ok, now follow that thread for a minute. Who is the most likely to know about those services, and feel free to access them, and then to challenge them if they disagree?

PP made a concrete claim (tiers based on FARMS rates), and this is just moving the goalposts to avoid admitting you (or they) were wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

That's the procedure for the ES and MS magnets but not HS.

For high school, extracurriculars, honors/awards, and the essay carry real weight.

This is a factor for HS admission

^ services such as receiving special education services, ELD- English Language Development, 504 accommodations plan and Free and Reduced Meals

Sure but that's not what PP said. If anything that policy is a boost to kids in low FARMS schools because they have the resources for testing.

Anyone can request MCPS to do such testing for free.

Ok, now follow that thread for a minute. Who is the most likely to know about those services, and feel free to access them, and then to challenge them if they disagree?

PP made a concrete claim (tiers based on FARMS rates), and this is just moving the goalposts to avoid admitting you (or they) were wrong.

Are you saying low FARM rate schools have higher 504 accommodations and IEPs? Do you have data to support that? It’s just your speculation.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

makes sense - but they are not supposed to know MS?

Is there any source for school blind admission?

The open houses for the programs. I believe it’s also specified in the available written descriptions online but would have to search. Of course if the essay mentioned something unique to a particular school they will know

If a student is in a middle school magnet, then it is not school blind. The evaluators can tell from the name of the courses if it is a magnet class and therefore ascertain that student is at TPMS or Eastern. So somewhat school hidden, but not blind.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

makes sense - but they are not supposed to know MS?

Is there any source for school blind admission?

The open houses for the programs. I believe it’s also specified in the available written descriptions online but would have to search. Of course if the essay mentioned something unique to a particular school they will know

If a student is in a middle school magnet, then it is not school blind. The evaluators can tell from the name of the courses if it is a magnet class and therefore ascertain that student is at TPMS or Eastern. So somewhat school hidden, but not blind.

Tell me you don't know what you’re talking about without telling me.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

That's the procedure for the ES and MS magnets but not HS.

For high school, extracurriculars, honors/awards, and the essay carry real weight.

This is a factor for HS admission

^ services such as receiving special education services, ELD- English Language Development, 504 accommodations plan and Free and Reduced Meals

Sure but that's not what PP said. If anything that policy is a boost to kids in low FARMS schools because they have the resources for testing.

Anyone can request MCPS to do such testing for free.

Ok, now follow that thread for a minute. Who is the most likely to know about those services, and feel free to access them, and then to challenge them if they disagree?

PP made a concrete claim (tiers based on FARMS rates), and this is just moving the goalposts to avoid admitting you (or they) were wrong.

Are you saying low FARM rate schools have higher 504 accommodations and IEPs? Do you have data to support that? It’s just your speculation.

Different poster but it’s well known that wealthy white patents are the ones that demand their kids get special treatment though a “diagnosis”. My own kid is wise enough to this that he’s noticed the racial distinctions between those who get extra time on tests - it’s the white kids with pushy parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

That's the procedure for the ES and MS magnets but not HS.

For high school, extracurriculars, honors/awards, and the essay carry real weight.

This is a factor for HS admission

^ services such as receiving special education services, ELD- English Language Development, 504 accommodations plan and Free and Reduced Meals

Sure but that's not what PP said. If anything that policy is a boost to kids in low FARMS schools because they have the resources for testing.

Anyone can request MCPS to do such testing for free.

Ok, now follow that thread for a minute. Who is the most likely to know about those services, and feel free to access them, and then to challenge them if they disagree?

PP made a concrete claim (tiers based on FARMS rates), and this is just moving the goalposts to avoid admitting you (or they) were wrong.

Are you saying low FARM rate schools have higher 504 accommodations and IEPs? Do you have data to support that? It’s just your speculation.

Different poster but it’s well known that wealthy white patents are the ones that demand their kids get special treatment though a “diagnosis”. My own kid is wise enough to this that he’s noticed the racial distinctions between those who get extra time on tests - it’s the white kids with pushy parents.

Low farm schools are not just white kids. There are many other ethnic groups who don’t even know the process.

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

That's the procedure for the ES and MS magnets but not HS.

For high school, extracurriculars, honors/awards, and the essay carry real weight.

This is a factor for HS admission

^ services such as receiving special education services, ELD- English Language Development, 504 accommodations plan and Free and Reduced Meals

Sure but that's not what PP said. If anything that policy is a boost to kids in low FARMS schools because they have the resources for testing.

Anyone can request MCPS to do such testing for free.

Ok, now follow that thread for a minute. Who is the most likely to know about those services, and feel free to access them, and then to challenge them if they disagree?

PP made a concrete claim (tiers based on FARMS rates), and this is just moving the goalposts to avoid admitting you (or they) were wrong.

Are you saying low FARM rate schools have higher 504 accommodations and IEPs? Do you have data to support that? It’s just your speculation.

Different poster but it’s well known that wealthy white patents are the ones that demand their kids get special treatment though a “diagnosis”. My own kid is wise enough to this that he’s noticed the racial distinctions between those who get extra time on tests - it’s the white kids with pushy parents.

Low farm schools are not just white kids. There are many other ethnic groups who don’t even know the process.

And? Or were you just trying to prove my point?

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Anonymous wrote:Not to offend any one academic accomplishment. Like one of the PP said, the score is just a number and getting into either SMCS or GE or even RM is certainly not a proof of prodigy ! My DD with reasonable intelligence and excellent work ethics secured MAP-M score was 284 in 8th fall She really worked hard to get that score. She got invited to both PHS SMCS and GE. (RMIB Not selected and Humanities waitlisted) She is going to accept GE and decline SMCS. If she is able to get into SMCS, I don't there is nothing to feel proud about getting to SMCS. I know a lot of kids with scores 270s will be in this program thus making it an average program (going by your standards )

but they are also reject kids in the 290s. at least in blair's case. ECs?

I feel they have high cutoff scores for low Farms middle school and low cutoff scores for high farms middle school. So that’s why lots of 280 and 290 kids get surprised

That's the procedure for the ES and MS magnets but not HS.

For high school, extracurriculars, honors/awards, and the essay carry real weight.

This is a factor for HS admission

^ services such as receiving special education services, ELD- English Language Development, 504 accommodations plan and Free and Reduced Meals

Sure but that's not what PP said. If anything that policy is a boost to kids in low FARMS schools because they have the resources for testing.

Anyone can request MCPS to do such testing for free.

Ok, now follow that thread for a minute. Who is the most likely to know about those services, and feel free to access them, and then to challenge them if they disagree?

PP made a concrete claim (tiers based on FARMS rates), and this is just moving the goalposts to avoid admitting you (or they) were wrong.

Are you saying low FARM rate schools have higher 504 accommodations and IEPs? Do you have data to support that? It’s just your speculation.

Different poster but it’s well known that wealthy white patents are the ones that demand their kids get special treatment though a “diagnosis”. My own kid is wise enough to this that he’s noticed the racial distinctions between those who get extra time on tests - it’s the white kids with pushy parents.

I reviewed some data on Wheaton HS vs. Whitman HS.

Wheaton HS has a FARM rate of about 60% (HI around 60%) and a Special Education rate of approximately 10%.
Whitman HS, on the other hand, has a FARM rate of less than 5% (WH around 60%) and a similar Special Education rate of about 10%.

I also looked into a few other high schools, and while the FARM rates vary, most schools seem to have around 10% of students in Special Education.

It doesn't seem like the White students around your child are purposely getting an IEP or 504 just to receive extra time on tests. Their parents may appear to be more pushy, but that's likely because having a child with ADHD or ASD naturally makes parents more involved and attentive to their needs.