OOS experience at flagships?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DC is waiting to hear from Michigan and Georgia Tech -- both of which have much lower acceptance rates for OOS applicants and, to varying degrees, enroll a (small) minority of out of state students.

What's the OOS experience like? Tuition is much higher for OOS and the median OOS student more qualified. Seems like a bad deal to me, especially if you think that part of what you are paying for is a peer group. Am I wrong?

Michigan is not a good deal at an average of 82k per year (not 80, as it goes up 4k for upperclassmen). You are paying to say you go to a “top school” which is far easier to get into oos than, say, Texas...if you are paying private school tuition, go private!

Georgia Tech is a whole different animal because oos tuition is 30k less…

Which private do you think would appeal to a kid looking at Michigan (and don't say Ivy b/c they want a big school experience)? USC, of course, but their acceptance rate is painfully low.

Northwestern and Cornell.

Agree about these two recs. I'm a Ross MBA who also considered Cornell. My sibling is undergrad Cornell/grad Michigan Engineering. Many historical ties between the schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aside from Michigan and Texas there are no publics worth the OOS price tag nor the OOS experience of being in a school filled with kids from one small geography and who probably go home for every long weekend.

I don’t know of any flagship in a state of any decent size where this is the case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aside from Michigan and Texas there are no publics worth the OOS price tag nor the OOS experience of being in a school filled with kids from one small geography and who probably go home for every long weekend.

I don’t know of any flagship in a state of any decent size where this is the case.

Rutgers. Great school but lots of kids go home on the weekends. Small state geographically.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aside from Michigan and Texas there are no publics worth the OOS price tag nor the OOS experience of being in a school filled with kids from one small geography and who probably go home for every long weekend.

I don’t know of any flagship in a state of any decent size where this is the case.

No flagship is like that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aside from Michigan and Texas there are no publics worth the OOS price tag nor the OOS experience of being in a school filled with kids from one small geography and who probably go home for every long weekend.

I’d add Berkeley to the list with Texas and Michigan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aside from Michigan and Texas there are no publics worth the OOS price tag nor the OOS experience of being in a school filled with kids from one small geography and who probably go home for every long weekend.

Such a weird assumption. Kids come from ALL over the state and most are nowhere near their homes. Michigan and Texas are fine, but there are plenty of other OOS publics that are great choices as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Aside from Michigan and Texas there are no publics worth the OOS price tag nor the OOS experience of being in a school filled with kids from one small geography and who probably go home for every long weekend.

I don’t know of any flagship in a state of any decent size where this is the case.

Exactly. The PP is talking out of his/her a$$.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The terminology really doesn't matter. OP clearly meant flagship to be the most selective state school in the state.

The fact that Michigan is 50% OOS and Georgia Tech only 10% is most pertinent, and suggests that being OOS at GT could be socially isolating.

I fail to see what difference it would make if a student was in-state or OOS. No one ostracizes someone simply because they're from another state. This is a bizarre way of thinking. My DC attends an OOS school in which most kids come from that state. No one cares!

It absolutely matters. Friend groups from high school move to college together at schools that are 80%+ in state. It is hard to break into that kind of a social scene, get accepted into Greek life, etc. They all already know one another!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Aside from Michigan and Texas there are no publics worth the OOS price tag nor the OOS experience of being in a school filled with kids from one small geography and who probably go home for every long weekend.

UCLA and Berkeley should head that small list …

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The terminology really doesn't matter. OP clearly meant flagship to be the most selective state school in the state.

The fact that Michigan is 50% OOS and Georgia Tech only 10% is most pertinent, and suggests that being OOS at GT could be socially isolating.

I fail to see what difference it would make if a student was in-state or OOS. No one ostracizes someone simply because they're from another state. This is a bizarre way of thinking. My DC attends an OOS school in which most kids come from that state. No one cares!

It absolutely matters. Friend groups from high school move to college together at schools that are 80%+ in state. It is hard to break into that kind of a social scene, get accepted into Greek life, etc. They all already know one another!

Just ask any oos kid at Texas how hard it is to join a fraternity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The terminology really doesn't matter. OP clearly meant flagship to be the most selective state school in the state.

The fact that Michigan is 50% OOS and Georgia Tech only 10% is most pertinent, and suggests that being OOS at GT could be socially isolating.

I fail to see what difference it would make if a student was in-state or OOS. No one ostracizes someone simply because they're from another state. This is a bizarre way of thinking. My DC attends an OOS school in which most kids come from that state. No one cares!

It absolutely matters. Friend groups from high school move to college together at schools that are 80%+ in state. It is hard to break into that kind of a social scene, get accepted into Greek life, etc. They all already know one another!

Just ask any oos kid at Texas how hard it is to join a fraternity.

How hard?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aside from Michigan and Texas there are no publics worth the OOS price tag nor the OOS experience of being in a school filled with kids from one small geography and who probably go home for every long weekend.

I don’t know of any flagship in a state of any decent size where this is the case.

Rutgers. Great school but lots of kids go home on the weekends. Small state geographically.

I have never seen anyone on DCUM show any interestin Rutgers. Anyhow,16,000 students there live in residence halls.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Aside from Michigan and Texas there are no publics worth the OOS price tag nor the OOS experience of being in a school filled with kids from one small geography and who probably go home for every long weekend.

I don’t know of any flagship in a state of any decent size where this is the case.

Rutgers. Great school but lots of kids go home on the weekends. Small state geographically.

I have never seen anyone on DCUM show any interestin Rutgers. Anyhow,16,000 students there live in residence halls.

And they are all townies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The terminology really doesn't matter. OP clearly meant flagship to be the most selective state school in the state.

The fact that Michigan is 50% OOS and Georgia Tech only 10% is most pertinent, and suggests that being OOS at GT could be socially isolating.

I fail to see what difference it would make if a student was in-state or OOS. No one ostracizes someone simply because they're from another state. This is a bizarre way of thinking. My DC attends an OOS school in which most kids come from that state. No one cares!

It absolutely matters. Friend groups from high school move to college together at schools that are 80%+ in state. It is hard to break into that kind of a social scene, get accepted into Greek life, etc. They all already know one another!

Just ask any oos kid at Texas how hard it is to join a fraternity.

How hard?

Many don’t even offer real rush and just recruit kids they know from their (TX) high schools. So that hard.

[Anonymous]

It's a bad deal if you can't afford to do it. There are plenty of out of state schools that give plenty of merit, the people around here think you have to go to a top school no matter what and that is ridiculous