Gov’t Contractors - End of Telework

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Anonymous wrote:My question is aren’t there people who were established as remote prior to Covid changes - are they also being forced to come back in? What if they lived far when they were hired for a remote position?

Yes, my husband was forced to go back to the office the beginning of this year. They were hired remote with only an occasional in office as needed and then once a week. He was working long before covid at home. He'll commute till he finds another job, in less his supervisor quits and the replacement is bad... we can afford to go a while without income.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My question is aren’t there people who were established as remote prior to Covid changes - are they also being forced to come back in? What if they lived far when they were hired for a remote position?

Yes. That’s what the EO says. Presumably they will need to move, but we won’t know for sure until more guidance is released.

[Anonymous]

Its funny people who are working are online now during the workday criticizing others.

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My son’s defense company went back to office last summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then they can get a job there. Or move back.

While 1-2 days/week telework is reasonable, living in Florida isn't.

Who made you in charge of determining what's reasonable and what's not?

Not poster, but I am a taxpayer, therefore I pay your salary. You understand that, don't you?

I love this grandiose statement, "I pay your salary." Government workers are taxpayers too. You understand that, don't you?

Also, just so you know, only about 8% of all Federal spending goes to Federal salaries (both military and civilian). That whack out of your paycheck that is "paying my salary" is actually mostly paying for other things, such as entitlements (SS, Medicare, interest on debt, etc). Maybe you should direct your attention to those things, since you are such a strident steward of your tax dollars.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

So absurd. Biden could have tackled the obvious issue of remote workers and empty buildings but he didn’t. He just ignored it and so many other issues. To blame this situation on Trump is rich. Covid has been over for 2 plus years and still federal employees are remote. Another problem Trump is inheriting from Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

So absurd. Biden could have tackled the obvious issue of remote workers and empty buildings but he didn’t. He just ignored it and so many other issues. To blame this situation on Trump is rich. Covid has been over for 2 plus years and still federal employees are remote. Another problem Trump is inheriting from Biden.

Being able to hire PhDs remotely isn't an issue. There isn't a problem with remote work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

So absurd. Biden could have tackled the obvious issue of remote workers and empty buildings but he didn’t. He just ignored it and so many other issues. To blame this situation on Trump is rich. Covid has been over for 2 plus years and still federal employees are remote. Another problem Trump is inheriting from Biden.

Being able to hire PhDs remotely isn't an issue. There isn't a problem with remote work.

Not following. People are bleating about being told to come in. Remote won’t cut it anymore. You will need to show up in person (fed or contractor) OR the government will have to sell buildings or end leases. I am agnostic but the status quo for the last 2 plus years is enormously wasteful. And Biden did nothing about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

So absurd. Biden could have tackled the obvious issue of remote workers and empty buildings but he didn’t. He just ignored it and so many other issues. To blame this situation on Trump is rich. Covid has been over for 2 plus years and still federal employees are remote. Another problem Trump is inheriting from Biden.

Being able to hire PhDs remotely isn't an issue. There isn't a problem with remote work.

Not following. People are bleating about being told to come in. Remote won’t cut it anymore. You will need to show up in person (fed or contractor) OR the government will have to sell buildings or end leases. I am agnostic but the status quo for the last 2 plus years is enormously wasteful. And Biden did nothing about it.

Remote work allowed them to get dream hires they couldn't get otherwise. A talented engineering PhD in Seattle who didn'twant to move her family. These people are high talent who have options and will leave under RTO. Yelling "buck up" doesn't make them stay, they have options. The government can't replace these people easily, there aren't that many people at that level.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

So absurd. Biden could have tackled the obvious issue of remote workers and empty buildings but he didn’t. He just ignored it and so many other issues. To blame this situation on Trump is rich. Covid has been over for 2 plus years and still federal employees are remote. Another problem Trump is inheriting from Biden.

Being able to hire PhDs remotely isn't an issue. There isn't a problem with remote work.

Not following. People are bleating about being told to come in. Remote won’t cut it anymore. You will need to show up in person (fed or contractor) OR the government will have to sell buildings or end leases. I am agnostic but the status quo for the last 2 plus years is enormously wasteful. And Biden did nothing about it.

There is a WSJ article today about the amount of space owned by the GSA that is functionally obsolete. It can't be used without serious investment even if they wanted to use it.

The GSA manages a massive portfolio of federal buildings, consisting of 370 million square feet nationwide. But many have been poorly maintained due to lack of funding, and are sitting empty or underused, the GSA testified before Congress in 2023. Some massive government buildings are empty or uninhabitable, said one former GSA official. Many others were built in the 1970s and have lacked the proper maintenance for decades.

Take the former GSA regional headquarters in L’Enfant Plaza. The nearly 1 million-square-foot office building is the largest property the GSA is looking to shed. It is in a prime Washington, D.C., location. But it has stood empty since 2018, due to its need for extensive renovations that would cost about $184.8 million, per a report put together by the GSA in September of 2021.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then they can get a job there. Or move back.

While 1-2 days/week telework is reasonable, living in Florida isn't.

Who made you in charge of determining what's reasonable and what's not?

Not poster, but I am a taxpayer, therefore I pay your salary. You understand that, don't you?

Lol. Not PP here, but I am a fed. You "pay" what ... .00000000000000000001 % of it? At most? You see how that works?

[Anonymous]

If new govt workers have less retirement benefits and lower salary than outgoing govt workers what is big deal?

Wall street and banking has always run like this.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

So absurd. Biden could have tackled the obvious issue of remote workers and empty buildings but he didn’t. He just ignored it and so many other issues. To blame this situation on Trump is rich. Covid has been over for 2 plus years and still federal employees are remote. Another problem Trump is inheriting from Biden.

Being able to hire PhDs remotely isn't an issue. There isn't a problem with remote work.

Not following. People are bleating about being told to come in. Remote won’t cut it anymore. You will need to show up in person (fed or contractor) OR the government will have to sell buildings or end leases. I am agnostic but the status quo for the last 2 plus years is enormously wasteful. And Biden did nothing about it.

Hysterical you think that they shouldn't sell or lease the buildings. Instead they will lease more buildings driving up costs waste fuel and people's time. Are we going to be required to purchase lunch too? Only wear dry clean only clothes?