Gov’t Contractors - End of Telework

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Anonymous wrote:How about the person(s) 'doing the job' by playing golf four times a week? Asking for a friend.

Come up with a more creative lie. It’s always golf in these stories. Kinda boring.

Its not a lie, they are abusing WFH so they assume everyone else is.

Guarantee their agency is aware. We know who is online and working and who is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was a consultant/contractor and I had to go to office every day except at height of covid. If you are billing a ton of cash per hour it is reasonable to see they are actually working.

The difference is you are on billable hours. Not all contractors are on billable hours and often you end up working early mornings/late nights or even in the middle of the night if you are dealing with the West Coast or another country. Its very different when you are able to do your 8 hours and leave.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Retirement isn't a bad thing. It frees up the job market so everyone can move up, and there are jobs for college grads. Let the market work people.

This. And RTO will be good for new people coming up who need to work directly with others in order to learn the ropes and develop relationships.

This level of RTO was always a blip. Most of us saw it for what it was. If you didn't, I'm sorry -- I know this will feel jarring. But the truth is that certain work really should be done in person, a well run office will actually be good for morale, and there are positives to people quitting or retiring if they don't want to return to the office.

Clearly you don't know the contracting world where many co-workers and supervisors are in different states or countries. So, that only works if you have your supervisor and co-workers on sight and they are willing to actually train you. Most aren't willing to train these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then they can get a job there. Or move back.

While 1-2 days/week telework is reasonable, living in Florida isn't.

Who made you in charge of determining what's reasonable and what's not?

Seriously. It was reasonable yesterday and not today? Makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then they can get a job there. Or move back.

While 1-2 days/week telework is reasonable, living in Florida isn't.

Who made you in charge of determining what's reasonable and what's not?

Not poster, but I am a taxpayer, therefore I pay your salary. You understand that, don't you?

Really? I'm a taxpayer and pay Trump's salary, but he doesn't do much that I want him to do.

[Anonymous]

Well...I guess this is positive for DMV real estate...I think?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Surprising. My agency had contractors be fully remote for years because there's no space for them.

The way the EO is written, it's based on it being feasible. If there's no space, there's no space. And it typically takes years for gov't to get more space.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How about the person(s) 'doing the job' by playing golf four times a week? Asking for a friend.

Feel free to report them to fraud waste and abuse. They'll go to the top of the list.

LOL. The poster is talking about Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

Yep, this. We have engineers all over the country. This is going to 100% slow down some of the ship replacements. Meanwhile China and Russia are building like crazy.

Trump will outsource ships to China and Russia, his friends.

[Anonymous]

I see this as a win for small businesses. We have difficulty competing on salary, so now we can more easily compete on working conditions as we allow 100% WFH. No slackers either. In small business, it's clear very quickly if someone isn't pulling their weight.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was a consultant/contractor and I had to go to office every day except at height of covid. If you are billing a ton of cash per hour it is reasonable to see they are actually working.

You can track how much work a person is doing by looking at their outcome, data from their computer, etc. Just because you are in the office doesn't mean you are working.

Yeah. Who thinks being in an office means you are doing work? There are plenty of ways to waste time in an office. My former boss used to talk on and on for 30-60 minutes, wasting a chunk of my dad. I had to politely listen to the long irrelevant stories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then they can get a job there. Or move back.

While 1-2 days/week telework is reasonable, living in Florida isn't.

Who made you in charge of determining what's reasonable and what's not?

Not poster, but I am a taxpayer, therefore I pay your salary. You understand that, don't you?

And it will cost you more to have us in the office on zoom calls. How are you benefitting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People quitting defense companies is going to affect military readiness. So all the people who are gleeful over those having to quit, good job.

lol the president shares highly classified defense documents with anyone. The new DOD is a drunk who can not function before 11 am. Minority and female soldiers now know they will not get promotion with the goal of forcing them out. The least of our concerns are defense contractors quitting. They have a very narrow skill set and will find they can not make the same money elsewhere.

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My question is aren’t there people who were established as remote prior to Covid changes - are they also being forced to come back in? What if they lived far when they were hired for a remote position?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I see this as a win for small businesses. We have difficulty competing on salary, so now we can more easily compete on working conditions as we allow 100% WFH. No slackers either. In small business, it's clear very quickly if someone isn't pulling their weight.

Its only a win if you increase salaries.