Gov’t Contractors - End of Telework

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Anonymous wrote:Contracts that don't specify in person mean the govt can't do anything unless they put the language in the next renewal. As for feds the government can tell them what to do we they are direct employees

Yeah people seem to think government moves at lightning speed after an executive order. That's rarely the case, and especially in a case like this where they need to find spare office space, etc. This will take years.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

So absurd. Biden could have tackled the obvious issue of remote workers and empty buildings but he didn’t. He just ignored it and so many other issues. To blame this situation on Trump is rich. Covid has been over for 2 plus years and still federal employees are remote. Another problem Trump is inheriting from Biden.

Being able to hire PhDs remotely isn't an issue. There isn't a problem with remote work.

Not following. People are bleating about being told to come in. Remote won’t cut it anymore. You will need to show up in person (fed or contractor) OR the government will have to sell buildings or end leases. I am agnostic but the status quo for the last 2 plus years is enormously wasteful. And Biden did nothing about it.

The government has already sold buildings and ended leases.

It's why my DH started telecommuting half a week back in 2006. There are currently three people sharing the same office and / cubicle.

Who are you people who think remote work / telecommuting started in 2020?
And that the federal government hasn't already sold the buildings and stopped the leasing?

All that was done under Obama to save money during the Great Recession.

So should we just sell the building? That would save money, reduce emissions (people driving in). Instead the govt wants to disrupt everyone’s lives so they can support the DC economy and justify buildings. Sell em.

Lunch food prices have gone sky-high. At my spouses building its $15 for a basic sandwich and drink, $18 with chips. Not supporting that non-sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a family member who works for a defense company, she is over the moon that some of the leches in her organization will be given their pink slips soon. She does their work already anyway, so no loss there.

And this really isn’t about your family member

Its a silly comment as people can do nothing in the office all day.

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Anonymous wrote:How about the person(s) 'doing the job' by playing golf four times a week? Asking for a friend.

Trump can do what he wants, he's the King now.

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Anonymous wrote:Then they can get a job there. Or move back.

While 1-2 days/week telework is reasonable, living in Florida isn't.

Who made you in charge of determining what's reasonable and what's not?

Not poster, but I am a taxpayer, therefore I pay your salary. You understand that, don't you?

Well, technically, they pay their salary, too. You understand that, don't you?

Govt employees are a drain on GDP/GNP. They also technically dont even pay income taxes. Why lets save Govt gives you $200,000 pay and you pay $40,000 in Govt taxes. Did you pay anything. You are just paying it with the money the govt gave you.

My God, where do all these morons come from?

You do understand that some jobs must be done by Federal employees by law, yes? Talk to Congress about your issues.

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Anonymous wrote:People quitting defense companies is going to affect military readiness. So all the people who are gleeful over those having to quit, good job.

I don't want to support Trump's policies, but I'm pretty sure there is a limitless supply of people ready to take defense contracting positions. Limitless.

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Anonymous wrote:Then they can get a job there. Or move back.

While 1-2 days/week telework is reasonable, living in Florida isn't.

Who made you in charge of determining what's reasonable and what's not?

Not poster, but I am a taxpayer, therefore I pay your salary. You understand that, don't you?

That's like saying, "I own apple stock, and you own an apple phone, so in essence I bought you your phone". Whatever

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Anonymous wrote:Then they can get a job there. Or move back.

While 1-2 days/week telework is reasonable, living in Florida isn't.

Who made you in charge of determining what's reasonable and what's not?

Not poster, but I am a taxpayer, therefore I pay your salary. You understand that, don't you?

Well, technically, they pay their salary, too. You understand that, don't you?

Govt employees are a drain on GDP/GNP. They also technically dont even pay income taxes. Why lets save Govt gives you $200,000 pay and you pay $40,000 in Govt taxes. Did you pay anything. You are just paying it with the money the govt gave you.

What a weird take. People who work earn their salaries. These aren't handouts.

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Anonymous wrote:How about the person(s) 'doing the job' by playing golf four times a week? Asking for a friend.

Trump can do what he wants, he's the King now.

He's not King, he's a dictator.

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Anonymous wrote:People quitting defense companies is going to affect military readiness. So all the people who are gleeful over those having to quit, good job.

I don't want to support Trump's policies, but I'm pretty sure there is a limitless supply of people ready to take defense contracting positions. Limitless.

It depends if the job is cleared or not.

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Anonymous wrote:And this kind of thing, it seems to me, runs counter to the narrative that Trumpers are going to hurt the DC region's economy by cracking down on federal workers.

Newsflash, forcing people -- whether contractors or federal employees -- to live and work in the DC area will be GREAT for the local economy.

I bet no-one is happier with Trump RTO orders than DC Mayor Muriel Bowser. I work downtown and would love to see some of these boarded-up storefronts occupied by thriving businesses again.

You need to fix Metro first.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

So absurd. Biden could have tackled the obvious issue of remote workers and empty buildings but he didn’t. He just ignored it and so many other issues. To blame this situation on Trump is rich. Covid has been over for 2 plus years and still federal employees are remote. Another problem Trump is inheriting from Biden.

Being able to hire PhDs remotely isn't an issue. There isn't a problem with remote work.

Not following. People are bleating about being told to come in. Remote won’t cut it anymore. You will need to show up in person (fed or contractor) OR the government will have to sell buildings or end leases. I am agnostic but the status quo for the last 2 plus years is enormously wasteful. And Biden did nothing about it.

There is a WSJ article today about the amount of space owned by the GSA that is functionally obsolete. It can't be used without serious investment even if they wanted to use it.

The GSA manages a massive portfolio of federal buildings, consisting of 370 million square feet nationwide. But many have been poorly maintained due to lack of funding, and are sitting empty or underused, the GSA testified before Congress in 2023. Some massive government buildings are empty or uninhabitable, said one former GSA official. Many others were built in the 1970s and have lacked the proper maintenance for decades.

Take the former GSA regional headquarters in L’Enfant Plaza. The nearly 1 million-square-foot office building is the largest property the GSA is looking to shed. It is in a prime Washington, D.C., location. But it has stood empty since 2018, due to its need for extensive renovations that would cost about $184.8 million, per a report put together by the GSA in September of 2021.

Did anyone catch that there is also an EO to beautify government buildings?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/promoting-beautiful-federal-civic-architecture/

“… to submit to me within 60 days recommendations to advance the policy that Federal public buildings should be visually identifiable as civic buildings and respect regional, traditional, and classical architectural heritage in order to uplift and beautify public spaces and ennoble the United States and our system of self-government.”

This seems like an odd initiative for a president elected by people who want to “drain the swamp,” relocate employees out of DC, and save taxpayer dollars.

The cynical part of me thinks that Trump will always be a real estate investor at heart and this is a ploy to somehow drive up commercial building costs surrounding the government buildings.

Why should the buildings all be identifiable as Federal buildings? They should be less identifiable. You are inviting terrorism. Trump loves to spend money, it's why he's been in bankruptcy so many times. Now he can spend other people's money on his real estate projects. Furthermore, he wants to unload 2/3 of the inventory. Nothing he says makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

So absurd. Biden could have tackled the obvious issue of remote workers and empty buildings but he didn’t. He just ignored it and so many other issues. To blame this situation on Trump is rich. Covid has been over for 2 plus years and still federal employees are remote. Another problem Trump is inheriting from Biden.

Being able to hire PhDs remotely isn't an issue. There isn't a problem with remote work.

Not following. People are bleating about being told to come in. Remote won’t cut it anymore. You will need to show up in person (fed or contractor) OR the government will have to sell buildings or end leases. I am agnostic but the status quo for the last 2 plus years is enormously wasteful. And Biden did nothing about it.

The government has already sold buildings and ended leases.

It's why my DH started telecommuting half a week back in 2006. There are currently three people sharing the same office and / cubicle.

Who are you people who think remote work / telecommuting started in 2020?
And that the federal government hasn't already sold the buildings and stopped the leasing?

All that was done under Obama to save money during the Great Recession.

So should we just sell the building? That would save money, reduce emissions (people driving in). Instead the govt wants to disrupt everyone’s lives so they can support the DC economy and justify buildings. Sell em.

Lunch food prices have gone sky-high. At my spouses building its $15 for a basic sandwich and drink, $18 with chips. Not supporting that non-sense.

Pack a lunch. FFS what’s the next excuse.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

So absurd. Biden could have tackled the obvious issue of remote workers and empty buildings but he didn’t. He just ignored it and so many other issues. To blame this situation on Trump is rich. Covid has been over for 2 plus years and still federal employees are remote. Another problem Trump is inheriting from Biden.

Being able to hire PhDs remotely isn't an issue. There isn't a problem with remote work.

Not following. People are bleating about being told to come in. Remote won’t cut it anymore. You will need to show up in person (fed or contractor) OR the government will have to sell buildings or end leases. I am agnostic but the status quo for the last 2 plus years is enormously wasteful. And Biden did nothing about it.

The government has already sold buildings and ended leases.

It's why my DH started telecommuting half a week back in 2006. There are currently three people sharing the same office and / cubicle.

Who are you people who think remote work / telecommuting started in 2020?
And that the federal government hasn't already sold the buildings and stopped the leasing?

All that was done under Obama to save money during the Great Recession.

So should we just sell the building? That would save money, reduce emissions (people driving in). Instead the govt wants to disrupt everyone’s lives so they can support the DC economy and justify buildings. Sell em.

Lunch food prices have gone sky-high. At my spouses building its $15 for a basic sandwich and drink, $18 with chips. Not supporting that non-sense.

Pack a lunch. FFS what’s the next excuse.

Of course, we pack, but its also $15 for tolls, plus gas. And, we need to buy a new car.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a fed and I know some of my contractors are being told to come in full time. I am really concerned I'm going to lose some of my most experienced, brilliant team members who can easily retire or get a different job. I've told them that obviously they have to follow their employer's guidelines, but that as far as I'm concerned they've been doing exceptional work in our current hybrid setup.

I am a fed contractor and am actively applying for other jobs. My agency takes months to onboard, so good luck to them finding a replacement.

Huge brain drain from the government and contractors. Putin really got a return on his investment, it could take decades to undo the damage to the military.

So absurd. Biden could have tackled the obvious issue of remote workers and empty buildings but he didn’t. He just ignored it and so many other issues. To blame this situation on Trump is rich. Covid has been over for 2 plus years and still federal employees are remote. Another problem Trump is inheriting from Biden.

Being able to hire PhDs remotely isn't an issue. There isn't a problem with remote work.

Not following. People are bleating about being told to come in. Remote won’t cut it anymore. You will need to show up in person (fed or contractor) OR the government will have to sell buildings or end leases. I am agnostic but the status quo for the last 2 plus years is enormously wasteful. And Biden did nothing about it.

The government has already sold buildings and ended leases.

It's why my DH started telecommuting half a week back in 2006. There are currently three people sharing the same office and / cubicle.

Who are you people who think remote work / telecommuting started in 2020?
And that the federal government hasn't already sold the buildings and stopped the leasing?

All that was done under Obama to save money during the Great Recession.

So should we just sell the building? That would save money, reduce emissions (people driving in). Instead the govt wants to disrupt everyone’s lives so they can support the DC economy and justify buildings. Sell em.

Lunch food prices have gone sky-high. At my spouses building its $15 for a basic sandwich and drink, $18 with chips. Not supporting that non-sense.

Pack a lunch. FFS what’s the next excuse.

Of course, we pack, but its also $15 for tolls, plus gas. And, we need to buy a new car.

Back to the slung line you go