Are diamonds just done?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

You and "your circle" should be embarrassed by your ignorance. Lab diamonds are not fake. They are diamonds just not mined under inhuman conditions. The diamond cartel is in trouble. They tried to control the manufacture of lab diamonds and tried to keep their prices artificially high but failed. They couldn't stop people around the world from setting up shop and making them.

Are you aware that mined diamonds are not, in fact, rare? It was just market manipulation that kept their prices high. You and your friends were just too stupid to see how much you were manipulated into thinking diamonds are special.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Diamonds were never a good investment. You you are foolish enough to consider them so...I have some ocean front property in AZ to sell you.

Jewelry is not an investment. In 99.99% of all cases, jewelry value does not increase or maintain its value over time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will only buy mined diamonds. I just can’t get behind a lab diamond. Fake is fake. My diamond jewelry is for me, and to be passed down to my kids if they want it. I don’t view it as an investment and the resale value doesn’t matter to me

Lab diamonds are in no way fake.

Stupid is stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will only buy mined diamonds. I just can’t get behind a lab diamond. Fake is fake. My diamond jewelry is for me, and to be passed down to my kids if they want it. I don’t view it as an investment and the resale value doesn’t matter to me

Except they're not fake.

They were not made in the Earth’s mantle over long periods of time and pressure and forced to the surface via volcanic channels, then they are fake. Part of the value of a diamond to me, is the natural phenomenon and process that made them. I’d rather buy a cubic zirconia than spend $1k on a lab diamond, if I don’t want to buy real

This post is hilarious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If anything, diamonds are less stigmatized now because people will assume that you are wearing a lab diamond, not a mined one, and that no child soldiers were killed during the mining of your bracelet.


(PP doesn’t know what “stigma” means. Didn’t we just have a thread on this exact topic? )

Here’s what WILL be stigmatized going forward- big ass emeralds. The Taliban is overseeing the reopening of gemstone and other mineral mines, and apparently some of the most exquisite emeralds on the planet are found underneath Afghanistan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/06/world/asia/taliban-afghanistan-mining.html

Pp you are referring to. “Real” diamonds never had a stigma in my social circle and people I knew called lab diamonds “fake.” I would venture to say diamond marketing is still pretty powerful.

And your post was unnecessarily rude.

You and "your circle" should be embarrassed by your ignorance. Lab diamonds are not fake. They are diamonds just not mined under inhuman conditions. The diamond cartel is in trouble. They tried to control the manufacture of lab diamonds and tried to keep their prices artificially high but failed. They couldn't stop people around the world from setting up shop and making them.

Are you aware that mined diamonds are not, in fact, rare? It was just market manipulation that kept their prices high. You and your friends were just too stupid to see how much you were manipulated into thinking diamonds are special.

Why are you being so aggressive and insulting? It’s bizarre. I’ve never bought a natural diamond, even for my engagement ring. I was aware of the issues and that lab diamonds would eventually overtake the market. I was talking about the circle of people I know. Not a ton of regular people pay attention to things like where diamonds come from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you live in the DC area, especially the DCUM demographic, real diamonds will never be worth it. Go to other parts of the country, including the UES of NYC, and you'll get very different answers.

It really depends on your social circles.

The little secret is there is no way to tell if a diamond is lab grown or natural. They say 50% of natural diamonds are actually labs. The certifications are faked.

New York is the heart of the diamond cartel in the US. Of course they will push natural diamonds. Though do you really think all those natural diamond is real? No way.

The bolded is not true. There is equipment now that can id lab diamonds. It has been around for a few years and is more common now. Lab diamonds did make their way to jewelers though. Most jewelers didnt have the equipment to test just a few years ago.

People will post and say lab diamonds are inscribed with codes to id them as labs. Nope. Not all of them. Without a doubt, they found their way to jewelers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, diamonds are horrible as investments. Lab-grown diamonds will continue to get cheaper.

You should never consider jewelry an investment. Stocks, bonds, real estate - those are investments. Buy what you love and enjoy it. Don’t plan on making any money from it.

I think mined diamonds will always be desired. I may change my mind when Tiffany or Cartier starts selling lab grown diamonds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you live in the DC area, especially the DCUM demographic, real diamonds will never be worth it. Go to other parts of the country, including the UES of NYC, and you'll get very different answers.

It really depends on your social circles.

The little secret is there is no way to tell if a diamond is lab grown or natural. They say 50% of natural diamonds are actually labs. The certifications are faked.

New York is the heart of the diamond cartel in the US. Of course they will push natural diamonds. Though do you really think all those natural diamond is real? No way.

It's very easy for an experienced gemologist to say and they can even identify the growing method of the lab diamond. There's also a tool that one can buy to test for lab vs natural but it's expensive.

No, a typical gemologist doesn't have the specialized (and very expensive) equipment necessary to tell the difference. They can only look for inscriptions claiming one way or another.

Wrong. More jewelers have the tool used to id labs. Not all labs have inscriptions. Think about it. Labs are made all over the world now and particularly in the 3rd world. Who is going around forcing facilities to inscribe lab diamonds?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will only buy mined diamonds. I just can’t get behind a lab diamond. Fake is fake. My diamond jewelry is for me, and to be passed down to my kids if they want it. I don’t view it as an investment and the resale value doesn’t matter to me

Except they're not fake.

They were not made in the Earth’s mantle over long periods of time and pressure and forced to the surface via volcanic channels, then they are fake. Part of the value of a diamond to me, is the natural phenomenon and process that made them. I’d rather buy a cubic zirconia than spend $1k on a lab diamond, if I don’t want to buy real

Diamonds are the most common gem stone in the world. There is not scarcity value.

Exactly. Mined diamonds are not rare. Their market is just one of the most manipuated that exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you live in the DC area, especially the DCUM demographic, real diamonds will never be worth it. Go to other parts of the country, including the UES of NYC, and you'll get very different answers.

It really depends on your social circles.

The little secret is there is no way to tell if a diamond is lab grown or natural. They say 50% of natural diamonds are actually labs. The certifications are faked.

New York is the heart of the diamond cartel in the US. Of course they will push natural diamonds. Though do you really think all those natural diamond is real? No way.

I read somewhere that diamond “melee” (the small diamonds in settings around the main gem, or the diamonds used in a tennis bracelet, for example) have had lab diamonds quietly mixed in bulk shipments used in production for years now. No one can tell, not regular jewelers and definitely not consumers.

The diamonds used in what is considered the typical tennis bracelet are not melee diamonds. Also diamond dust or melee is actually kind of cheap. This type of diamond is actually used for industrial purposes and wasn't so expensive.

[Anonymous]

My engagement diamond has big visible inclusions because my DH didn’t notice, so I figure now they’re special marks of earth.

And hopefully not human suffering, I guess?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Lab diamonds are not the problem. When people in their 90s, 80s, 70s... die, there will be tons of diamonds floating around.

There are already lots of mined diamonds floating around. The inventory is already huge. Many of the jewelry stores around me won't stock mined diamonds. Pretty much everyone sees that they need to move to labs as no one sees anything special about mined diamonds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My engagement diamond has big visible inclusions because my DH didn’t notice, so I figure now they’re special marks of earth.

And hopefully not human suffering, I guess?

OMG
Mine too
I figured I was the only one with an unobservant DH.

[Anonymous]

All diamonds are terrible investments. Try to sell it and they’ll offer you 30%. Then they’ll reset it and sell it right back at full retail. Such a grift.

[Anonymous]

Smart women don't wear diamonds.