Goodbye TikTok (for now)

[Anonymous]

Good, it was tracking your emails, web use, phone calls, and other apps.

It has all the data on who is a loser doomscroller 8-12 hours a day versus not.

[Anonymous]

I find the whole complete inability to explain why this is a risk when Meta and Google (whose parent company Alphabet is CHINESE) don't pose the same risks.

This reads like an insane amount of lobbying push and a threat to fund challengers to anyone who refused to agree. It is the most logical answer compared because the nebulous "national security" concern argument falls apart when our data is being sold to the Chinese by competitors like Meta.

I will miss the cooking videos, the home repair videos, the videos making fun of the cooking videos and home repair videos. I will miss the dances and silliness. I will miss feeling like my feed actually reflected my interests unlike Facebook which is an abandoned mall full of ridiculous AI posts and ads trying to sell me cars like the pack pages of a newspaper in the 1980's.

I imagine Trump will probably get it back online, but will screw with it to his advantage...which is sort of exactly what Mark Warner said the national security concern was...propaganda.

The whole thing seems like a very calculated end run to get rid of a competitor through lobbying...which I guess isn't illegal?

[Anonymous]

Wait, so it went offline a day before Trump takes office and the message on the site reads, “We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office. Please stay tuned!”

And this somehow isn’t a giant effort to manipulate us politically?

[Anonymous]

The thing is every single site is collecting data. This one included. China is going to do what exactly with the fact the algorithm figured out that I have ADHD, I like puppy videos, and I like videos about corporate workplaces. Why does that matter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is Jax, a singer who made it big starting on TikTok. Her song charted and played on pop radio all last year. Her perspective on why TT is being banned in food for thought. She brings facts.

Okay this could have happened on YouTube as well. Wasn’t Justin Bieber first noticed on a YouTube video? And that singer with the Patti Labelle “Patti pies” singing its praises became a backup singer because of his YouTube breakout fandom singing about the pies. What was unique about tic toc that is making people lose their minds when there is concern about national security. I honestly don’t get it and nobody has been able to help me understand the angst.

The national security concerns are way overblown. If they were worried about China having access to information they would ban their shopping apps too. The olds in Congress don't understand any of this. This is about American social media companies not wanting the competition. And it is TikTok.

How do you know the national security concerns are overblown? Are you privy to some of the intel? The glaring issue I had with Tic Toc is that a lot of the content that is made available to American children are prohibited in China because the Chinese find it to be damaging to youth. If you want eat your own food because you think it’s poisonous, why do you think it’s okay to feed your poison to others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Youtube Shorts is very similar.

Take a dance class or exercise dance class .

That can teach you moves to top songs, get you in shape, and make friends to go out to coffee or lunch with afterwards, or see a game together (college or professional sports game).

Much better than the TikTok challenge. Do ding ding ditch or caution tape a house if you want something stupid to do.

[Anonymous]

Reading.

And being happy it's gone. Social media is destructive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find the whole complete inability to explain why this is a risk when Meta and Google (whose parent company Alphabet is CHINESE) don't pose the same risks.

This reads like an insane amount of lobbying push and a threat to fund challengers to anyone who refused to agree. It is the most logical answer compared because the nebulous "national security" concern argument falls apart when our data is being sold to the Chinese by competitors like Meta.

I will miss the cooking videos, the home repair videos, the videos making fun of the cooking videos and home repair videos. I will miss the dances and silliness. I will miss feeling like my feed actually reflected my interests unlike Facebook which is an abandoned mall full of ridiculous AI posts and ads trying to sell me cars like the pack pages of a newspaper in the 1980's.

I imagine Trump will probably get it back online, but will screw with it to his advantage...which is sort of exactly what Mark Warner said the national security concern was...propaganda.

The whole thing seems like a very calculated end run to get rid of a competitor through lobbying...which I guess isn't illegal?

Alphabet is chinese ?

What idiot on tik tok told you that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unless this was a source of income
for you, no one should really be struggling with this. Use the time to cultivate a new hobby. Even my teens don’t get the big deal.

Lots of people make money on tik tok.

Lots of social validation losers you mean.

Or losers who groomed their children to do it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is Jax, a singer who made it big starting on TikTok. Her song charted and played on pop radio all last year. Her perspective on why TT is being banned in food for thought. She brings facts.

Okay this could have happened on YouTube as well. Wasn’t Justin Bieber first noticed on a YouTube video? And that singer with the Patti Labelle “Patti pies” singing its praises became a backup singer because of his YouTube breakout fandom singing about the pies. What was unique about tic toc that is making people lose their minds when there is concern about national security. I honestly don’t get it and nobody has been able to help me understand the angst.

The national security concerns are way overblown. If they were worried about China having access to information they would ban their shopping apps too. The olds in Congress don't understand any of this. This is about American social media companies not wanting the competition. And it is TikTok.

Not sure if you guys watched that entire video, but what the singer was talking about is how the same people in Congress who voted to ban TikTok have been investing heavily in Meta…..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I find the whole complete inability to explain why this is a risk when Meta and Google (whose parent company Alphabet is CHINESE) don't pose the same risks.

This reads like an insane amount of lobbying push and a threat to fund challengers to anyone who refused to agree. It is the most logical answer compared because the nebulous "national security" concern argument falls apart when our data is being sold to the Chinese by competitors like Meta.

I will miss the cooking videos, the home repair videos, the videos making fun of the cooking videos and home repair videos. I will miss the dances and silliness. I will miss feeling like my feed actually reflected my interests unlike Facebook which is an abandoned mall full of ridiculous AI posts and ads trying to sell me cars like the pack pages of a newspaper in the 1980's.

I imagine Trump will probably get it back online, but will screw with it to his advantage...which is sort of exactly what Mark Warner said the national security concern was...propaganda.

The whole thing seems like a very calculated end run to get rid of a competitor through lobbying...which I guess isn't illegal?

I stopped after your first sentence. Alphabet, the parent company of google, is not a Chinese company. It does business around the world, including in China, but it is not a Chinese company.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so it went offline a day before Trump takes office and the message on the site reads, “We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office. Please stay tuned!”

And this somehow isn’t a giant effort to manipulate us politically?

Correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The thing is every single site is collecting data. This one included. China is going to do what exactly with the fact the algorithm figured out that I have ADHD, I like puppy videos, and I like videos about corporate workplaces. Why does that matter?

Don’t know because I’m not in the business, but if it didn’t matter and have a purpose, they wouldn’t be doing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is Jax, a singer who made it big starting on TikTok. Her song charted and played on pop radio all last year. Her perspective on why TT is being banned in food for thought. She brings facts.

Okay this could have happened on YouTube as well. Wasn’t Justin Bieber first noticed on a YouTube video? And that singer with the Patti Labelle “Patti pies” singing its praises became a backup singer because of his YouTube breakout fandom singing about the pies. What was unique about tic toc that is making people lose their minds when there is concern about national security. I honestly don’t get it and nobody has been able to help me understand the angst.

The national security concerns are way overblown. If they were worried about China having access to information they would ban their shopping apps too. The olds in Congress don't understand any of this. This is about American social media companies not wanting the competition. And it is TikTok.

You can’t get faces, voices, pics of inside peoples homes to manipulate with AI for blackmail, etc with shopping data at SHEIN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait, so it went offline a day before Trump takes office and the message on the site reads, “We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office. Please stay tuned!”

And this somehow isn’t a giant effort to manipulate us politically?

Yes it is very much political manipulation from a foreign entity. Don’t forget the mention that Trump had over four billion views and understand the value of Tic Toc.