Brown

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Brown
19,666 male (846)
31,550 female (849)

Yale
22,003 male (788)
29,699 female (853)

I have a non-artsy son at Brown, visited all except Dartmouth. Yale and Brown were favorites. Speculating maybe less pre-prof, not big Greek life, and community vibe appeals to females (and males).

Super competitive. Only one, uber-super-star girl from our highly selective private was offered ED admission to Brown this year. It's tough out there!

So except for MIT and caltech, this is all colleges now. But why? Are the bros not even bothering unless they are a recruited athlete? I assume they are going NESCAC or state schools.

I quickly looked at UPenn and Harvard and it was more balanced on applications. I’m sure all are skewing more female, but Y&B are definitely skewing more. Not sure where bros are going besides Bucknell. 😁

Harvard is Harvard, but Penn has a a good engineering school and it has Wharton. And both of those programs attract smart young men.

Schools like Brown and Yale, which don't have meaningful engineering programs or undergrad business schools, are struggling - relatively speaking - to attract the increasingly limited number of accomplished young men out there. Those young men have options. And the smartest do tend to go into engineering, CS or finance related fields. If a school is not competitive in those majors, it further limits the pool of competitive male applicants. And so you see distortions like at Brown and Yale when it comes to the ratio of male/female applicants. I'm sure schools like Cornell, Northwestern, Duke, Rice, Stanford, Michigan and other top schools that have solid engineering programs have a more equitable distribution of applicants.

Struggling is definitely relative. It's still a very, very, very low admission rate for boys. I know 2 who were deferred in ED who have it all: top grades, scores, extracurriculars, etc. Even applied as humanities majors (with extracurriculars to support this). Brown should be tripping over themselves to get these boys and yet: DEFERRED.

Public or private high school?
Were any kids in the class admitted ED to Brown? if so, ALDC, URM or FGLI?

Super competitive. Only one, uber-super-star girl from our highly selective private was offered ED admission to Brown this year. It's tough out there!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Last year

Brown
19,666 male (846)
31,550 female (849)

Yale
22,003 male (788)
29,699 female (853)

I have a non-artsy son at Brown, visited all except Dartmouth. Yale and Brown were favorites. Speculating maybe less pre-prof, not big Greek life, and community vibe appeals to females (and males).

So except for MIT and caltech, this is all colleges now. But why? Are the bros not even bothering unless they are a recruited athlete? I assume they are going NESCAC or state schools.

The “bros” tour these schools and see a bunch of introverted nerds. Not really the social scene they are looking for in college.

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Anonymous wrote:Last year

Brown
19,666 male (846)
31,550 female (849)

Yale
22,003 male (788)
29,699 female (853)

I have a non-artsy son at Brown, visited all except Dartmouth. Yale and Brown were favorites. Speculating maybe less pre-prof, not big Greek life, and community vibe appeals to females (and males).

Super competitive. Only one, uber-super-star girl from our highly selective private was offered ED admission to Brown this year. It's tough out there!

So except for MIT and caltech, this is all colleges now. But why? Are the bros not even bothering unless they are a recruited athlete? I assume they are going NESCAC or state schools.

I quickly looked at UPenn and Harvard and it was more balanced on applications. I’m sure all are skewing more female, but Y&B are definitely skewing more. Not sure where bros are going besides Bucknell. 😁

Harvard is Harvard, but Penn has a a good engineering school and it has Wharton. And both of those programs attract smart young men.

Schools like Brown and Yale, which don't have meaningful engineering programs or undergrad business schools, are struggling - relatively speaking - to attract the increasingly limited number of accomplished young men out there. Those young men have options. And the smartest do tend to go into engineering, CS or finance related fields. If a school is not competitive in those majors, it further limits the pool of competitive male applicants. And so you see distortions like at Brown and Yale when it comes to the ratio of male/female applicants. I'm sure schools like Cornell, Northwestern, Duke, Rice, Stanford, Michigan and other top schools that have solid engineering programs have a more equitable distribution of applicants.

Struggling is definitely relative. It's still a very, very, very low admission rate for boys. I know 2 who were deferred in ED who have it all: top grades, scores, extracurriculars, etc. Even applied as humanities majors (with extracurriculars to support this). Brown should be tripping over themselves to get these boys and yet: DEFERRED.

Public or private high school?
Were any kids in the class admitted ED to Brown? if so, ALDC, URM or FGLI?

Super competitive. Only one, uber-super-star girl from our highly selective private was offered ED admission to Brown this year. It's tough out there!

One kind-of ordinary high stats legacy girl admitted ED from ours.

[Anonymous]

I guess DD’s high school is very abnormal, as brown is the easiest Ivy to get into! They took 7 kids last year, and 3 are already in ED this year, 1 additional Questbridge.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year

Brown
19,666 male (846)
31,550 female (849)

Yale
22,003 male (788)
29,699 female (853)

I have a non-artsy son at Brown, visited all except Dartmouth. Yale and Brown were favorites. Speculating maybe less pre-prof, not big Greek life, and community vibe appeals to females (and males).

So except for MIT and caltech, this is all colleges now. But why? Are the bros not even bothering unless they are a recruited athlete? I assume they are going NESCAC or state schools.

The “bros” tour these schools and see a bunch of introverted nerds. Not really the social scene they are looking for in college.

They had a very good looking student body when we toured. Lots of people working out too. Steady stream to and from fitness center. But, yes, it’s not a tailgate big football school (obvs), drunk fest or big Greek scene. It’s not going to appeal to the type that want to get sh@tface drunk 6 nights per week. It will repel that type of bro. But it’s def very social/fun and plenty of parties to be had for those that want them, lots of bars for upperclassman on Thayer and downtown Providence.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes saw in Reddit most ivies are still open and accepting applications

And internationals are applying and applying and applying. Hundreds more each day. So many posts about applications.
These schools are seriously crooked.

Why do so many apply when they have little to no chance?

Good question. A friend told me her daughter (who goes to a decent public school but nothing special)- who may have a 4.0 and 36 ACT for all I know but does not have any other skill or talent besides a mediocre player in a team sport, got rejected ED from Stanford, but it applying to Harvard and Princeton. I am scratching my head and wondering if they are humoring her or if they think she has a chance...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes saw in Reddit most ivies are still open and accepting applications

And internationals are applying and applying and applying. Hundreds more each day. So many posts about applications.
These schools are seriously crooked.

Why do so many apply when they have little to no chance?

Good question. A friend told me her daughter (who goes to a decent public school but nothing special)- who may have a 4.0 and 36 ACT for all I know but does not have any other skill or talent besides a mediocre player in a team sport, got rejected ED from Stanford, but it applying to Harvard and Princeton. I am scratching my head and wondering if they are humoring her or if they think she has a chance...

Maybe she has a ton of research? Pointy “application persona”?

Heard that term last night on Ingenius Prep’s early App case studies of 3 successful candidates (2 Cornell and 1 Stanford). It was informative.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year

Brown
19,666 male (846)
31,550 female (849)

Yale
22,003 male (788)
29,699 female (853)

I have a non-artsy son at Brown, visited all except Dartmouth. Yale and Brown were favorites. Speculating maybe less pre-prof, not big Greek life, and community vibe appeals to females (and males).

So except for MIT and caltech, this is all colleges now. But why? Are the bros not even bothering unless they are a recruited athlete? I assume they are going NESCAC or state schools.

The “bros” tour these schools and see a bunch of introverted nerds. Not really the social scene they are looking for in college.

They had a very good looking student body when we toured. Lots of people working out too. Steady stream to and from fitness center. But, yes, it’s not a tailgate big football school (obvs), drunk fest or big Greek scene. It’s not going to appeal to the type that want to get sh@tface drunk 6 nights per week. It will repel that type of bro. But it’s def very social/fun and plenty of parties to be had for those that want them, lots of bars for upperclassman on Thayer and downtown Providence.

What bar is on Thayer Street?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess DD’s high school is very abnormal, as brown is the easiest Ivy to get into! They took 7 kids last year, and 3 are already in ED this year, 1 additional Questbridge.

+1 brown is the back up Ivy in our experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess DD’s high school is very abnormal, as brown is the easiest Ivy to get into! They took 7 kids last year, and 3 are already in ED this year, 1 additional Questbridge.

Our school also had three accepted in ED, one FGLI, one from Ukraine, and one from Myanmar. I don’t know a lot about Brown but all I can picture is a celebrity/refugee mashup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year

Brown
19,666 male (846)
31,550 female (849)

Yale
22,003 male (788)
29,699 female (853)

I have a non-artsy son at Brown, visited all except Dartmouth. Yale and Brown were favorites. Speculating maybe less pre-prof, not big Greek life, and community vibe appeals to females (and males).

So except for MIT and caltech, this is all colleges now. But why? Are the bros not even bothering unless they are a recruited athlete? I assume they are going NESCAC or state schools.

I quickly looked at UPenn and Harvard and it was more balanced on applications. I’m sure all are skewing more female, but Y&B are definitely skewing more. Not sure where bros are going besides Bucknell. 😁

Harvard is Harvard, but Penn has a a good engineering school and it has Wharton. And both of those programs attract smart young men.

Schools like Brown and Yale, which don't have meaningful engineering programs or undergrad business schools, are struggling - relatively speaking - to attract the increasingly limited number of accomplished young men out there. Those young men have options. And the smartest do tend to go into engineering, CS or finance related fields. If a school is not competitive in those majors, it further limits the pool of competitive male applicants. And so you see distortions like at Brown and Yale when it comes to the ratio of male/female applicants. I'm sure schools like Cornell, Northwestern, Duke, Rice, Stanford, Michigan and other top schools that have solid engineering programs have a more equitable distribution of applicants.

Brown had an excellent engineering program and entrepreneurship opportunities. Both growing rapidly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year

Brown
19,666 male (846)
31,550 female (849)

Yale
22,003 male (788)
29,699 female (853)

I have a non-artsy son at Brown, visited all except Dartmouth. Yale and Brown were favorites. Speculating maybe less pre-prof, not big Greek life, and community vibe appeals to females (and males).

So except for MIT and caltech, this is all colleges now. But why? Are the bros not even bothering unless they are a recruited athlete? I assume they are going NESCAC or state schools.

The “bros” tour these schools and see a bunch of introverted nerds. Not really the social scene they are looking for in college.

They had a very good looking student body when we toured. Lots of people working out too. Steady stream to and from fitness center. But, yes, it’s not a tailgate big football school (obvs), drunk fest or big Greek scene. It’s not going to appeal to the type that want to get sh@tface drunk 6 nights per week. It will repel that type of bro. But it’s def very social/fun and plenty of parties to be had for those that want them, lots of bars for upperclassman on Thayer and downtown Providence.

Eh. Kind of. Kids I know work very hard and study a lot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guess DD’s high school is very abnormal, as brown is the easiest Ivy to get into! They took 7 kids last year, and 3 are already in ED this year, 1 additional Questbridge.

+1 brown is the back up Ivy in our experience.

That would be Cornell, Dartmouth and Penn at our school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess DD’s high school is very abnormal, as brown is the easiest Ivy to get into! They took 7 kids last year, and 3 are already in ED this year, 1 additional Questbridge.

+1 brown is the back up Ivy in our experience.

That would be Cornell, Dartmouth and Penn at our school.

Same at our school. To be fair, hardly anyone gets in any Ivy. We never have all 8 each year. And no more than 1-2 per school, unless it was a big legacy year or more athletic recruits.

Ivies Acceptance Rate
Harvard 3.6%
Yale 3.7%
Columbia 3.85%
Princeton 4.62%
Brown 5.2%
Dartmouth 5.3%
UPenn 5.4%
Cornell 8.41%

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Last year

Brown
19,666 male (846)
31,550 female (849)

Yale
22,003 male (788)
29,699 female (853)

I have a non-artsy son at Brown, visited all except Dartmouth. Yale and Brown were favorites. Speculating maybe less pre-prof, not big Greek life, and community vibe appeals to females (and males).

So except for MIT and caltech, this is all colleges now. But why? Are the bros not even bothering unless they are a recruited athlete? I assume they are going NESCAC or state schools.

The “bros” tour these schools and see a bunch of introverted nerds. Not really the social scene they are looking for in college.

They had a very good looking student body when we toured. Lots of people working out too. Steady stream to and from fitness center. But, yes, it’s not a tailgate big football school (obvs), drunk fest or big Greek scene. It’s not going to appeal to the type that want to get sh@tface drunk 6 nights per week. It will repel that type of bro. But it’s def very social/fun and plenty of parties to be had for those that want them, lots of bars for upperclassman on Thayer and downtown Providence.

The good looking part made me laugh. I guess all these schools have sidechat and then there is an Ivy sidechat. A Harvard sidechat was leaked that said Brown has the best looking students and they are having a bit of fun with that.