Brown

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Anonymous wrote:I have a lot of friends that went to Brown and they all loved it. The impression I have is that they liked Brown as an actual experience -- the open curriculum, the other students, the overall "feel" of the place -- in a way that my friends who went to HYPS for the most part do not. Those schools seems to be "liked" for the results they produce and the prestige among the broad public they have -- in short, name recognition, even the bus driver is impressed, etc. -- and less so for the experience students have there. Just my observation.

Brown seems pretty unique among the elite schools in the US, it doesn't have the prominence of Harvard obv, but for a certain kind of family and student it seems to have a strong and distinct "brand," as others have put it.

What other top 2 schools are like this - where kids are there for the experience at such school? And less so for prestige or name recognition or what have you.

I think:

Duke
Brown
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Rice

I would add emory, williams cmc

And for the right kid, Caltech and maybe MIT.

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Anonymous wrote:All true, but Yale is still leagues (no pun intended) above Brown.

Leagues ahead? I don't know about that.
Brown is sort of having a moment right now. This gen Z crowd seems to really like what brown has to offer.
I don't know if it will accelerate, or die off, but right now brown is very popular among the same crowd that might have been attracted to yale a generation ago.

I thought requiring test scores would hurt brown among that crowd but it doesn't seem to have hurt them.

It is extremely popular with young women but I don't know why. What does it have that other schools don't?

Providence is like a walk on the beach combined with riding unicorns through a forest.

Ooh, please do share any wisdom on other top schools too! We aren’t able to tour anytime soon.

I'm kidding (sorta) I just really love Providence.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a lot of friends that went to Brown and they all loved it. The impression I have is that they liked Brown as an actual experience -- the open curriculum, the other students, the overall "feel" of the place -- in a way that my friends who went to HYPS for the most part do not. Those schools seems to be "liked" for the results they produce and the prestige among the broad public they have -- in short, name recognition, even the bus driver is impressed, etc. -- and less so for the experience students have there. Just my observation.

Brown seems pretty unique among the elite schools in the US, it doesn't have the prominence of Harvard obv, but for a certain kind of family and student it seems to have a strong and distinct "brand," as others have put it.

Thus doesn’t resonate with me, both as an HYPS graduate and as someone who knows many later HYPS graduates who enjoyed their undergraduate years.

Rather, in my observation, Brown graduates tend to be concerned that their school, with its open curriculum and rather paltry endowment, will be seen as a lesser institution and compensate by emphasizing the Brown “experience.” I don’t blame them, but it does come across as a bit contrived at times.

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Or, maybe just maybe, they are ALL great schools and the majority enjoy their time, and some small portion don’t. It really doesn’t have to one to the other. With the amount of colleges and universities in the US, quibbling over a handful of schools seems insane to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Or, maybe just maybe, they are ALL great schools and the majority enjoy their time, and some small portion don’t. It really doesn’t have to one to the other. With the amount of colleges and universities in the US, quibbling over a handful of schools seems insane to me.

I don't think it's quibbling. I think it can affect the student culture and pervade student life. If I had a sophomore or junior, I'd want to be more strategic with an ED to one of these schools (I have a current senior, who did ED to one of these schools and was deferred).

For the person who mentioned Emory, I don't get that as their general culture or vibe AT ALL. So I wouldn't include it. Perhaps Williams and CMC make sense. I'm sure other SLCACs too - what about Middlebury?



Duke
Brown
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Rice

Williams
CMC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or, maybe just maybe, they are ALL great schools and the majority enjoy their time, and some small portion don’t. It really doesn’t have to one to the other. With the amount of colleges and universities in the US, quibbling over a handful of schools seems insane to me.

I don't think it's quibbling. I think it can affect the student culture and pervade student life. If I had a sophomore or junior, I'd want to be more strategic with an ED to one of these schools (I have a current senior, who did ED to one of these schools and was deferred).

For the person who mentioned Emory, I don't get that as their general culture or vibe AT ALL. So I wouldn't include it. Perhaps Williams and CMC make sense. I'm sure other SLCACs too - what about Middlebury?



Duke
Brown
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Rice

Williams
CMC

I said that as a person who already posted why their child chose Brown. I have no doubt HYP was a better choice for someone else for their own reasons. Quibbling to me is trying to justify why one is better than another. It’s not, it’s down to each student and their own preferences. My own loves Brown, I’ve just never felt like I had to disparage other schools in the process which some on here seem to do and I wish they wouldn’t.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a lot of friends that went to Brown and they all loved it. The impression I have is that they liked Brown as an actual experience -- the open curriculum, the other students, the overall "feel" of the place -- in a way that my friends who went to HYPS for the most part do not. Those schools seems to be "liked" for the results they produce and the prestige among the broad public they have -- in short, name recognition, even the bus driver is impressed, etc. -- and less so for the experience students have there. Just my observation.

Brown seems pretty unique among the elite schools in the US, it doesn't have the prominence of Harvard obv, but for a certain kind of family and student it seems to have a strong and distinct "brand," as others have put it.

What other top 2 schools are like this - where kids are there for the experience at such school? And less so for prestige or name recognition or what have you.

I think:

Duke
Brown
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Rice

Okay so you clearly have no kids at elite schools. Duke , Dartmouth, and Vanderbilt are the most pretentious schools in America besides maybe Princeton and Georgetown. Most students border on rude. The complete opposite of Brown or Emory or Rice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a lot of friends that went to Brown and they all loved it. The impression I have is that they liked Brown as an actual experience -- the open curriculum, the other students, the overall "feel" of the place -- in a way that my friends who went to HYPS for the most part do not. Those schools seems to be "liked" for the results they produce and the prestige among the broad public they have -- in short, name recognition, even the bus driver is impressed, etc. -- and less so for the experience students have there. Just my observation.

Brown seems pretty unique among the elite schools in the US, it doesn't have the prominence of Harvard obv, but for a certain kind of family and student it seems to have a strong and distinct "brand," as others have put it.

What other top 2 schools are like this - where kids are there for the experience at such school? And less so for prestige or name recognition or what have you.

I think:

Duke
Brown
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Rice

Okay so you clearly have no kids at elite schools. Duke , Dartmouth, and Vanderbilt are the most pretentious schools in America besides maybe Princeton and Georgetown. Most students border on rude. The complete opposite of Brown or Emory or Rice.

How did you meet "most students" at Duke, Dartmouth and Vanderbilt? I went to one of these schools, but I would never make a generalization like that about the school I actually attended, not to mention the schools I did not attend, including Brown or Emory or Rice. I think you are rude.

[Anonymous]

Times have changed and there are a lot more Asian-Americans and international Asians at SLAC’s than there were 30 years ago. I remember touring 30 years ago and At some places, I was the only Asian-American in the tour group. I toured some of the same SLAC’s with my kid more recently…they are much more diverse now. Many Asian immigrant parents weren’t aware of or open to SLAC’s back in the day….

[Anonymous]

Regarding the comment about Brown not sending many graduates to Wall Street, you are incorrect. Brown sends quite a few to Goldman, Morgan Stanley and J.P. Morgan, in particular, and tends to be a top 5 feeder to those firms. You are correct that Brown sends fewer to the 2nd tier firms for whatever reason. Brown is a big feeder to the quant firms, Jane Street, HRT, and DE Shaw and quant side of BlackRock, and also hedge funds like Point72, Bridgewater, and Citadel.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Times have changed and there are a lot more Asian-Americans and international Asians at SLAC’s than there were 30 years ago. I remember touring 30 years ago and At some places, I was the only Asian-American in the tour group. I toured some of the same SLAC’s with my kid more recently…they are much more diverse now. Many Asian immigrant parents weren’t aware of or open to SLAC’s back in the day….

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Wrong post

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Times have changed and there are a lot more Asian-Americans and international Asians at SLAC’s than there were 30 years ago. I remember touring 30 years ago and At some places, I was the only Asian-American in the tour group. I toured some of the same SLAC’s with my kid more recently…they are much more diverse now. Many Asian immigrant parents weren’t aware of or open to SLAC’s back in the day….

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Wrong post

My mistake. Wrong thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or, maybe just maybe, they are ALL great schools and the majority enjoy their time, and some small portion don’t. It really doesn’t have to one to the other. With the amount of colleges and universities in the US, quibbling over a handful of schools seems insane to me.

I totally agree. Then again, our legacy kids did not even apply to the legacy colleges, so we are clearly outside the mainstream in our approach to colleges. Happier, I think, but not like the people who post here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Regarding the comment about Brown not sending many graduates to Wall Street, you are incorrect. Brown sends quite a few to Goldman, Morgan Stanley and J.P. Morgan, in particular, and tends to be a top 5 feeder to those firms. You are correct that Brown sends fewer to the 2nd tier firms for whatever reason. Brown is a big feeder to the quant firms, Jane Street, HRT, and DE Shaw and quant side of BlackRock, and also hedge funds like Point72, Bridgewater, and Citadel.

And if you don't care about those jobs?

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Can we please let this die already, what is there left to say?! There are opportunities for those that want those jobs and plenty more than have no interest. It’s a great school for some, not for others. The ones that would love it will find it. The ones that’ll hate it will know and won’t apply. They’ll probably love their school and it’ll be just as great for other reasons.