Multiple injuries at Wisconsin Christian school

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Someone apparently asked if the school had metal detectors.

A cop responded no, it’s a safe space.

What better way to make your kids’ school a target?

It’s a small k-12 private, 30 kids per grade. None of the similar schools in this area have metal detectors.

Does any school around here have any metal detectors?

We're at a K-12 school about twice that size. No metal detectors, but other security features like the double doors that I know our area public school district has made a huge deal about investing in as a security measure. Over the past several years our private school has made school safety an area of focus. I mean they kind of have to, right?

But if the shooter is a student already inside the school then the double doors don’t matter. Those only help if it’s an outside party, and if your kids’ school has an outdoor playground then it won’t even help at all during recess.

I was really hoping all the would be school/mass shooters would see how beloved Luigi is and change their target. Maybe the rich and powerful will care when it’s them on the line. Until then these kids and teachers are just fodder to the gun lobby, the price we all have to pay so people can stock up on guns!

Obviously our school (and all the publics installing double doors) won't enforce our existing laws, put in place compromise new ones, and change our culture so that nobody likes any shooter (sorry, even Luigi being beloved is INSANITY). But my point is that some small privates and big publics and everything in between are at least trying to do whatever they can.

Except metal detectors. WHY?
Important places around here have metal detectors, even museums. What the hell deserves better protection than OUR children?

It’s not logistically realistic to have metal detectors at every school in the country. It’s just not.

Of course it is. I encountered unmanned technology in the 1980’s that prevented entry into banks if a person had metal on their person.

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Anonymous wrote:Will the Rs care now that it happened at a private religious school? Probably not.

None of our kids are safe from this. Public. Private. City. Suburb. Elementary through HS.

Nothing will change, but I can’t wait to hear more arguments about why we should all be mourning a CEO when we don’t even do a damned thing about children getting killed.

I hate everything about this and if you think we shouldn’t even try to pass laws because shootings will happen anyway then you’re an absolute moron because why have laws at all if they are going to be broken? Do you think we should also give up on stopping drunk driving or bank robberies?

Cue all the idiotic arguments as to why it’s “too soon” or “guns don’t kill people.” I’m sure that will console these families with one less loved one to open gifts with on Christmas morning.

You can mourn the murder of a ceo and children

Technically yes- but only one seems to capture politicians’ short attention span.

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Of course it is. I encountered unmanned technology in the 1980’s that prevented entry into banks if a person had metal on their person.

Banks are small and have one entrance with windows. Schools have many entrances where staff or students are constantly using. My school has 10 different entrances. They aren’t all used at the same time but they are all used throughout the day.

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Of course it is. I encountered unmanned technology in the 1980’s that prevented entry into banks if a person had metal on their person.

Banks are small and have one entrance with windows. Schools have many entrances where staff or students are constantly using. My school has 10 different entrances. They aren’t all used at the same time but they are all used throughout the day.

This means nothing. Lots of secure buildings have multiple openings but that does not mean they are not secured. My point is that what is lacking is willingness, not technology.

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Of course it is. I encountered unmanned technology in the 1980’s that prevented entry into banks if a person had metal on their person.

Banks are small and have one entrance with windows. Schools have many entrances where staff or students are constantly using. My school has 10 different entrances. They aren’t all used at the same time but they are all used throughout the day.

This means nothing. Lots of secure buildings have multiple openings but that does not mean they are not secured. My point is that what is lacking is willingness, not technology.

You just aren't going to be able to install metal detectors at EVERY single entrance in a school that houses HS. You can however secure all entrances by other means however. The problem however is I agree with everyone else - no way you can 100% ensure safety of everyone in a school as there's always a way for someone to have a gun - where there's a will there's a way. That being said, it's a good deterrent nevertheless. It's always better to make something harder than easy in these situations, logically.

I don't know if this is the answer - violence is the root issue. There's a lot of anger, hatred, hurt in our kids. Sure, you prevent mass shootings but on some level, there's kids out there ready to hurt other kids, people. That's a cultural problem not a gun problem. I don't think guns being easy access are helping but essentially, on the current scale, it's definitely not isolated incidents. Mental health, support for families in society, better school security - these are all legit concerns contributing to school shootings today.

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Does any school have metal detectors?

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Anonymous wrote:Does any school have metal detectors?

I know some in NYC do. Not all by any means.

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Of course it is. I encountered unmanned technology in the 1980’s that prevented entry into banks if a person had metal on their person.

Banks are small and have one entrance with windows. Schools have many entrances where staff or students are constantly using. My school has 10 different entrances. They aren’t all used at the same time but they are all used throughout the day.

This means nothing. Lots of secure buildings have multiple openings but that does not mean they are not secured. My point is that what is lacking is willingness, not technology.

Please tell me how you would fix my school to make it safe then. We don’t have the money to repair leaky roofs, 80+ year old boilers and asbestos tiles in the teacher lounge so with that in mind please share.

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Of course it is. I encountered unmanned technology in the 1980’s that prevented entry into banks if a person had metal on their person.

Banks are small and have one entrance with windows. Schools have many entrances where staff or students are constantly using. My school has 10 different entrances. They aren’t all used at the same time but they are all used throughout the day.

This means nothing. Lots of secure buildings have multiple openings but that does not mean they are not secured. My point is that what is lacking is willingness, not technology.

Please tell me how you would fix my school to make it safe then. We don’t have the money to repair leaky roofs, 80+ year old boilers and asbestos tiles in the teacher lounge so with that in mind please share.

If it is private the membership need to step up and/or the .gov need to provide a public safety grant.

If it is public, the money is there but is being spent on other things.

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Shooter was a girl, according to Daily Mail.

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Of course it is. I encountered unmanned technology in the 1980’s that prevented entry into banks if a person had metal on their person.

Banks are small and have one entrance with windows. Schools have many entrances where staff or students are constantly using. My school has 10 different entrances. They aren’t all used at the same time but they are all used throughout the day.

This means nothing. Lots of secure buildings have multiple openings but that does not mean they are not secured. My point is that what is lacking is willingness, not technology.

Please tell me how you would fix my school to make it safe then. We don’t have the money to repair leaky roofs, 80+ year old boilers and asbestos tiles in the teacher lounge so with that in mind please share.

Which school? We’d be happy to help.

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Of course it is. I encountered unmanned technology in the 1980’s that prevented entry into banks if a person had metal on their person.

Banks are small and have one entrance with windows. Schools have many entrances where staff or students are constantly using. My school has 10 different entrances. They aren’t all used at the same time but they are all used throughout the day.

This means nothing. Lots of secure buildings have multiple openings but that does not mean they are not secured. My point is that what is lacking is willingness, not technology.

Please tell me how you would fix my school to make it safe then. We don’t have the money to repair leaky roofs, 80+ year old boilers and asbestos tiles in the teacher lounge so with that in mind please share.

If it is private the membership need to step up and/or the .gov need to provide a public safety grant.

If it is public, the money is there but is being spent on other things.

Wow, it is so amazing that you just know that my district has money for metal detectors. Amazing. Maybe you can come over and help us figure out where this mysterious money is hiding. I thought it was hidden by the gerrymandered Wisconsin legislature and that’s why 241 school districts in the state of Wisconsin had referendums in November but glad you know better.

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Of course it is. I encountered unmanned technology in the 1980’s that prevented entry into banks if a person had metal on their person.

Banks are small and have one entrance with windows. Schools have many entrances where staff or students are constantly using. My school has 10 different entrances. They aren’t all used at the same time but they are all used throughout the day.

This means nothing. Lots of secure buildings have multiple openings but that does not mean they are not secured. My point is that what is lacking is willingness, not technology.

Please tell me how you would fix my school to make it safe then. We don’t have the money to repair leaky roofs, 80+ year old boilers and asbestos tiles in the teacher lounge so with that in mind please share.

If it is private the membership need to step up and/or the .gov need to provide a public safety grant.

If it is public, the money is there but is being spent on other things.

Wow, it is so amazing that you just know that my district has money for metal detectors. Amazing. Maybe you can come over and help us figure out where this mysterious money is hiding. I thought it was hidden by the gerrymandered Wisconsin legislature and that’s why 241 school districts in the state of Wisconsin had referendums in November but glad you know better.

You’ve identified the problem. “No money” is rarely true. “Other priorities” are very common. The people in Wisconsin need to get their house in order.

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If you have guns embedded in the fiber of your culture then what do you expect. Every person with an axe to grind is a potential shooter. The rot was baked in with the 2nd amendment and there’s no getting it out.

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“Wisconsin enacted its FY 2024-2025 biennial budget in July 2023. The enacted budget reported $49.7 billion in total spending for FY 2024 and $48.9 billion for FY 2025.”

There’s plenty of money.