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Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Please also post a duplicate of this response in the other duplicate thread in the politics forum too.

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Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Please also post a duplicate of this response in the other duplicate thread in the politics forum too.

They are just arguing about guns over there. It’s not even about the incident any more.
Any news since this morning? Motive?

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Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Right so these kids will never be kicked out. Too much paperwork, pushback, and parents screaming about their rights. And then kids explode and take out their rage on their classmates.

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Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Right so these kids will never be kicked out. Too much paperwork, pushback, and parents screaming about their rights. And then kids explode and take out their rage on their classmates.

It's literally in the thread title that this was a Christian school. Goodness, people. Take your rants about FAPE and special ed elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Please also post a duplicate of this response in the other duplicate thread in the politics forum too.

They are just arguing about guns over there. It’s not even about the incident any more.
Any news since this morning? Motive?

Why are there two duplicate threads on the exact same topic?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Please also post a duplicate of this response in the other duplicate thread in the politics forum too.

They are just arguing about guns over there. It’s not even about the incident any more.
Any news since this morning? Motive?

Why are there two duplicate threads on the exact same topic?

Two duplicate threads is redundant.

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Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Right so these kids will never be kicked out. Too much paperwork, pushback, and parents screaming about their rights. And then kids explode and take out their rage on their classmates.

It's literally in the thread title that this was a Christian school. Goodness, people. Take your rants about FAPE and special ed elsewhere.

No shit. What can schools do about kids going off the rails? Got any ideas?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Right so these kids will never be kicked out. Too much paperwork, pushback, and parents screaming about their rights. And then kids explode and take out their rage on their classmates.

It's literally in the thread title that this was a Christian school. Goodness, people. Take your rants about FAPE and special ed elsewhere.

No shit. What can schools do about kids going off the rails? Got any ideas?

The other thread has many.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Please also post a duplicate of this response in the other duplicate thread in the politics forum too.

They are just arguing about guns over there. It’s not even about the incident any more.
Any news since this morning? Motive?

Why are there two duplicate threads on the exact same topic?

Two duplicate threads is redundant.

You can say that again.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Right so these kids will never be kicked out. Too much paperwork, pushback, and parents screaming about their rights. And then kids explode and take out their rage on their classmates.

It's literally in the thread title that this was a Christian school. Goodness, people. Take your rants about FAPE and special ed elsewhere.

I’m the person who mentioned FAPE. I was replying to the poster I quoted who said that both private and public schools need to deal with these kids before they explode. Private schools can. Public schools really can’t. Thanks to FAPE.

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Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Please also post a duplicate of this response in the other duplicate thread in the politics forum too.

They are just arguing about guns over there. It’s not even about the incident any more.
Any news since this morning? Motive?

Why are there two duplicate threads on the exact same topic?

That one immediately became a debate on gun control, while this one is on topic. They are different

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Anonymous wrote:Charge.the.parents.

Every.Single.Time.

I understand that opinion but also parents can't control everything. It's hard to imagine what they are going through.

The captain of a ship is charged if the ship runs aground, even though the captain can’t control every action of every member of the crew. Parents are the captains of the family ship and they should be held responsible if a member of the family commits a heinous crime.

The family knows where she got the gun. And if not they know where she got the money. And if they don’t know either of these things, they are not paying nearly enough attention to their mentally child. Parents need to know where their children’s money is going for lots of reasons, not just guns. But a huge swath of parents really suck these days, even in “nice” neighborhoods.

So we should start charging parents for not paying attention to their kids? That's not going to work in many cases.

If their neglect causes violence or harm to others, absolutely. Drunk driver and street racer teens’ parents should be charged too. Your child is YOUR responsibility, especially if you are providing them guns and cars.

Agree, absolutely.

Or these ultra violent video games.

Most people know a kid who’s raging angry. Stop thinking it’s not your business. It is.

Can we make it our business by asking schools to expel these kids before they explode?

Yes, absolutely. This is a good time to review potentially violent students in all schools.

This white trash father encouraged his daughter's shooting and at least tolerated, but likely also encouraged her "courageous attitude" and psychological aberrations.

Social services and schools need to be more proactive in identifying such cases in advance.

Here: shooting fanatic deranged teenager with Columbine t-shirt? It's an obvious case.

Let's not make a bunch of assumptions about what he did or didn't do. But if everyone at the school saw her as a problem and there were warning signs, then they need to be held responsible too. Schools need to start kicking these kids out. This was a private school, it should have been easy. Public schools too need to be held accountable when it happens on their watch.

Thanks to all the disability laws run amok, public schools have a very hard time kicking any of these kids out. Turns out Free Appropriate Public Education isn’t for all kids. It’s just for kids with diagnoses.

Please also post a duplicate of this response in the other duplicate thread in the politics forum too.

They are just arguing about guns over there. It’s not even about the incident any more.
Any news since this morning? Motive?

Why are there two duplicate threads on the exact same topic?

That one immediately became a debate on gun control, while this one is on topic. They are different

sure. ok

[Anonymous]

As a teacher, I’m curious if this girl was particularly mad at the teacher she killed for some reason, or if the teacher was just in the wrong place when the girl exploded. It’s a scary world we live in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I’m curious if this girl was particularly mad at the teacher she killed for some reason, or if the teacher was just in the wrong place when the girl exploded. It’s a scary world we live in.

Have not seen evidence of that.

More likely: she was abused as a child; therefore she sought out victims the same age she was when abused.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I’m curious if this girl was particularly mad at the teacher she killed for some reason, or if the teacher was just in the wrong place when the girl exploded. It’s a scary world we live in.

Have not seen evidence of that.

More likely: she was abused as a child; therefore she sought out victims the same age she was when abused.

That doesn't make a lot of sense. Usually they are bullied and try to go after their targets. They don't shoot their friends.