Hopkins or Georgetown sfs

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Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The School of Foreign Service does, yes.

https://msfs.georgetown.edu/academics/msfs/degree-options/

That doesn’t appear to be 5myear, looks like 6.

“The BSBA/MSFS & BSFS/MSFS dual degrees are five-year, full-time programs in which you enter the MSFS program in the senior year of your undergraduate Bachelor of Science in Business Administration or Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service program.”

Looks like Georgetown SFS really does have everything Hopkins has and more.

There’s a reason it’s number 1.

Hoya Saxa!

Oh please, it’s a very strong department in a school with poor financial aid and decaying infrastructure.

Hi, Hopkins IR major.

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Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The School of Foreign Service does, yes.

https://msfs.georgetown.edu/academics/msfs/degree-options/

That doesn’t appear to be 5myear, looks like 6.

“The BSBA/MSFS & BSFS/MSFS dual degrees are five-year, full-time programs in which you enter the MSFS program in the senior year of your undergraduate Bachelor of Science in Business Administration or Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service program.”

Looks like Georgetown SFS really does have everything Hopkins has and more.

There’s a reason it’s number 1.

Hoya Saxa!

Oh please, it’s a very strong department in a school with poor financial aid and decaying infrastructure.

Hi, Hopkins IR major.

And yet it’s true, and I’ve gone four pages without mentioning rats in the dorms.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The School of Foreign Service does, yes.

https://msfs.georgetown.edu/academics/msfs/degree-options/

That doesn’t appear to be 5myear, looks like 6.

“The BSBA/MSFS & BSFS/MSFS dual degrees are five-year, full-time programs in which you enter the MSFS program in the senior year of your undergraduate Bachelor of Science in Business Administration or Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service program.”

Looks like Georgetown SFS really does have everything Hopkins has and more.

There’s a reason it’s number 1.

Hoya Saxa!

Oh please, it’s a very strong department in a school with poor financial aid and decaying infrastructure.

Hi, Hopkins IR major.

And yet it’s true, and I’ve gone four pages without mentioning rats in the dorms.

Give it a rest my friend. We promise you go to a good school.

Dorm maintenance issues are common at universities, including at Hopkins: https://www.jhunewsletter.com/article/2021/12/students-report-pests-and-leakage-issues-in-on-campus-housing

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The School of Foreign Service does, yes.

https://msfs.georgetown.edu/academics/msfs/degree-options/

That doesn’t appear to be 5myear, looks like 6.

There is a joint Bachelors/Masters at SFS that is 5 years. You apply during junior year. Read the link.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The School of Foreign Service does, yes.

https://msfs.georgetown.edu/academics/msfs/degree-options/

That doesn’t appear to be 5myear, looks like 6.

There is a joint Bachelors/Masters at SFS that is 5 years. You apply during junior year. Read the link.

There is definitely a Bachelors/Masters in 5yrs at SFS but you have to plan very carefully because it requires you to take 1/2 of the grad level courses your 4th year - which means you need to be mostly done with any other requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:Foreign Policy magazine surveyed 1500 policymakers, think tank staff, and IR faculty on undergrad, MA, and PhD programs:

Undergrad:

IR faculty: Georgetown #3; Hopkins #14
Policymakers: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #5
Think tank staff: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #7

MA:

All categories: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #2



https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/07/30/international-relations-school-rankings-university-undergraduate-masters-phd-programs/?utm_content=gifting&tpcc=gifting_article&gifting_article=aW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC1yZWxhdGlvbnMtc2Nob29sLXJhbmtpbmdzLXVuaXZlcnNpdHktdW5kZXJncmFkdWF0ZS1tYXN0ZXJzLXB#anchor-3

How many IR majors wind up doing something beyond think tank work? Hopkins helped me get into a T5 law school.

That’s great. Georgetown SFS sends a ton of people to top law schools.

Actually, you can apply early to Georgetown law school from SFS and you don’t have to take the LSAT.

Stop trying to make Hopkins out to be better than Georgetown SFS. It’s not convincing.

Is Georgetown a T14 law school? I thought it was just outside.

Correct. it is below T14

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Foreign Policy magazine surveyed 1500 policymakers, think tank staff, and IR faculty on undergrad, MA, and PhD programs:

Undergrad:

IR faculty: Georgetown #3; Hopkins #14
Policymakers: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #5
Think tank staff: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #7

MA:

All categories: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #2



https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/07/30/international-relations-school-rankings-university-undergraduate-masters-phd-programs/?utm_content=gifting&tpcc=gifting_article&gifting_article=aW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC1yZWxhdGlvbnMtc2Nob29sLXJhbmtpbmdzLXVuaXZlcnNpdHktdW5kZXJncmFkdWF0ZS1tYXN0ZXJzLXBr#anchor-3

+1. I don’t know why people are still arguing this.

They are arguing it because USNWR ranks Hopkins as no 6 and Georgetown at no 24 in international relations. USNWR is the gold standard . No one cares what a magazine has collected in a survey

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Foreign Policy magazine surveyed 1500 policymakers, think tank staff, and IR faculty on undergrad, MA, and PhD programs:

Undergrad:

IR faculty: Georgetown #3; Hopkins #14
Policymakers: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #5
Think tank staff: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #7

MA:

All categories: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #2



https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/07/30/international-relations-school-rankings-university-undergraduate-masters-phd-programs/?utm_content=gifting&tpcc=gifting_article&gifting_article=aW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC1yZWxhdGlvbnMtc2Nob29sLXJhbmtpbmdzLXVuaXZlcnNpdHktdW5kZXJncmFkdWF0ZS1tYXN0ZXJzLXBr#anchor-3

+1. I don’t know why people are still arguing this.

They are arguing it because USNWR ranks Hopkins as no 6 and Georgetown at no 24 in international relations. USNWR is the gold standard . No one cares what a magazine has collected in a survey

Lol, no, it doesn’t. This is factually wrong. USNWR doesn’t rank IR. They just list colleges that offer IR as a major and show their national university rank next to them.

Inside the Ivory Tower is the gold standard. They survey 1500 IR academics and professionals. And Georgetown tops Hopkins.

They are both great schools. But one is consistently above the other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Foreign Policy magazine surveyed 1500 policymakers, think tank staff, and IR faculty on undergrad, MA, and PhD programs:

Undergrad:

IR faculty: Georgetown #3; Hopkins #14
Policymakers: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #5
Think tank staff: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #7

MA:

All categories: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #2



https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/07/30/international-relations-school-rankings-university-undergraduate-masters-phd-programs/?utm_content=gifting&tpcc=gifting_article&gifting_article=aW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC1yZWxhdGlvbnMtc2Nob29sLXJhbmtpbmdzLXVuaXZlcnNpdHktdW5kZXJncmFkdWF0ZS1tYXN0ZXJzLXBr#anchor-3

+1. I don’t know why people are still arguing this.

They are arguing it because USNWR ranks Hopkins as no 6 and Georgetown at no 24 in international relations. USNWR is the gold standard . No one cares what a magazine has collected in a survey

Lol, no, it doesn’t. This is factually wrong. USNWR doesn’t rank IR. They just list colleges that offer IR as a major and show their national university rank next to them.

Inside the Ivory Tower is the gold standard. They survey 1500 IR academics and professionals. And Georgetown tops Hopkins.

They are both great schools. But one is consistently above the other.

It wouldn’t be crazy to also consider the fact that they both have highly ranked IR programs but one is a T10 university and the other a T25. Just like considering Hopkins offers far better financial aid.


There is no “right” answer here and op’s kid would be fortunate to attend either.