Hopkins or Georgetown sfs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The cohort at Hopkins will be small. It’s a dominantly STEM school with strong but relatively small humanities/social sci programs. That will feel different and also mean the pool of future connections/network is smaller.

This is not correct, international relations has been one of the most popular majors at Hopkins for decades.

— A Hopkins IR major

[Anonymous]

One huge difference between Hopkins and Georgetown for undergrad is that Hopkins does not have a dedicated undergrad school for international politics.

Hopkins IR is in the school of arts and sciences. In contrast, SFS is its own school, separate from the College. It has its own dedicated resources.

When you combine that with Georgetown’s DC location, SFS is clearly the stronger school.

I was able to take classes with adjuncts who were also in the government, such as the US Ambassador to the Netherlands. Georgetown’s location makes it easier for government officials to do their jobs and teach classes.

It’s also easy to do internships on the Hill and other places during the semester.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If kid is interested in international studies (for undergrad), how would you compare Johns Hopkins vs Georgetown school of foreign service? In terms of the student experience, prestige, internship opportunities, social life, sense of community, etc? Would appreciate any feedback on these two programs/schools.

SFS >>>

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One huge difference between Hopkins and Georgetown for undergrad is that Hopkins does not have a dedicated undergrad school for international politics.

Hopkins IR is in the school of arts and sciences. In contrast, SFS is its own school, separate from the College. It has its own dedicated resources.

When you combine that with Georgetown’s DC location, SFS is clearly the stronger school.

I was able to take classes with adjuncts who were also in the government, such as the US Ambassador to the Netherlands. Georgetown’s location makes it easier for government officials to do their jobs and teach classes.

It’s also easy to do internships on the Hill and other places during the semester.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:One huge difference between Hopkins and Georgetown for undergrad is that Hopkins does not have a dedicated undergrad school for international politics.

Hopkins IR is in the school of arts and sciences. In contrast, SFS is its own school, separate from the College. It has its own dedicated resources.

When you combine that with Georgetown’s DC location, SFS is clearly the stronger school.

I was able to take classes with adjuncts who were also in the government, such as the US Ambassador to the Netherlands. Georgetown’s location makes it easier for government officials to do their jobs and teach classes.

It’s also easy to do internships on the Hill and other places during the semester.

Hopkins IR major here, I also had classes taught by government officials, DC is half an hour away by train so an easy commute.

The new Hopkins building in DC is absolutely gorgeous and centrally located. Far nicer than Georgetown’s campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One huge difference between Hopkins and Georgetown for undergrad is that Hopkins does not have a dedicated undergrad school for international politics.

Hopkins IR is in the school of arts and sciences. In contrast, SFS is its own school, separate from the College. It has its own dedicated resources.

When you combine that with Georgetown’s DC location, SFS is clearly the stronger school.

I was able to take classes with adjuncts who were also in the government, such as the US Ambassador to the Netherlands. Georgetown’s location makes it easier for government officials to do their jobs and teach classes.

It’s also easy to do internships on the Hill and other places during the semester.

Hopkins IR major here, I also had classes taught by government officials, DC is half an hour away by train so an easy commute.

The new Hopkins building in DC is absolutely gorgeous and centrally located. Far nicer than Georgetown’s campus.

I’m not sure you have the strongest argument in terms of location when we’re talking about Baltimore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One huge difference between Hopkins and Georgetown for undergrad is that Hopkins does not have a dedicated undergrad school for international politics.

Hopkins IR is in the school of arts and sciences. In contrast, SFS is its own school, separate from the College. It has its own dedicated resources.

When you combine that with Georgetown’s DC location, SFS is clearly the stronger school.

I was able to take classes with adjuncts who were also in the government, such as the US Ambassador to the Netherlands. Georgetown’s location makes it easier for government officials to do their jobs and teach classes.

It’s also easy to do internships on the Hill and other places during the semester.

Hopkins IR major here, I also had classes taught by government officials, DC is half an hour away by train so an easy commute.

The new Hopkins building in DC is absolutely gorgeous and centrally located. Far nicer than Georgetown’s campus.

I’m not sure you have the strongest argument in terms of location when we’re talking about Baltimore.

And yes, I recognize that Hopkins has a DC building.

Georgetown is entirely in DC. It still wins.

[Anonymous]

Foreign Policy magazine surveyed 1500 policymakers, think tank staff, and IR faculty on undergrad, MA, and PhD programs:

Undergrad:

IR faculty: Georgetown #3; Hopkins #14
Policymakers: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #5
Think tank staff: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #7

MA:

All categories: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #2



https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/07/30/international-relations-school-rankings-university-undergraduate-masters-phd-programs/?utm_content=gifting&tpcc=gifting_article&gifting_article=aW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC1yZWxhdGlvbnMtc2Nob29sLXJhbmtpbmdzLXVuaXZlcnNpdHktdW5kZXJncmFkdWF0ZS1tYXN0ZXJzLXB#anchor-3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One huge difference between Hopkins and Georgetown for undergrad is that Hopkins does not have a dedicated undergrad school for international politics.

Hopkins IR is in the school of arts and sciences. In contrast, SFS is its own school, separate from the College. It has its own dedicated resources.

When you combine that with Georgetown’s DC location, SFS is clearly the stronger school.

I was able to take classes with adjuncts who were also in the government, such as the US Ambassador to the Netherlands. Georgetown’s location makes it easier for government officials to do their jobs and teach classes.

It’s also easy to do internships on the Hill and other places during the semester.

Hopkins IR major here, I also had classes taught by government officials, DC is half an hour away by train so an easy commute.

The new Hopkins building in DC is absolutely gorgeous and centrally located. Far nicer than Georgetown’s campus.

I’m not sure you have the strongest argument in terms of location when we’re talking about Baltimore.

And yes, I recognize that Hopkins has a DC building.

Georgetown is entirely in DC. It still wins.

In your own mind, you already said that, repeatedly.

Hopkins has a far larger endowment than Georgetown and those greater resources affect the student experience in a myriad of ways, particularly if a family needs financial aid, since Hopkins is a “no loan” school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Foreign Policy magazine surveyed 1500 policymakers, think tank staff, and IR faculty on undergrad, MA, and PhD programs:

Undergrad:

IR faculty: Georgetown #3; Hopkins #14
Policymakers: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #5
Think tank staff: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #7

MA:

All categories: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #2



https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/07/30/international-relations-school-rankings-university-undergraduate-masters-phd-programs/?utm_content=gifting&tpcc=gifting_article&gifting_article=aW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC1yZWxhdGlvbnMtc2Nob29sLXJhbmtpbmdzLXVuaXZlcnNpdHktdW5kZXJncmFkdWF0ZS1tYXN0ZXJzLXB#anchor-3

How many IR majors wind up doing something beyond think tank work? Hopkins helped me get into a T5 law school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Foreign Policy magazine surveyed 1500 policymakers, think tank staff, and IR faculty on undergrad, MA, and PhD programs:

Undergrad:

IR faculty: Georgetown #3; Hopkins #14
Policymakers: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #5
Think tank staff: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #7

MA:

All categories: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #2



https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/07/30/international-relations-school-rankings-university-undergraduate-masters-phd-programs/?utm_content=gifting&tpcc=gifting_article&gifting_article=aW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC1yZWxhdGlvbnMtc2Nob29sLXJhbmtpbmdzLXVuaXZlcnNpdHktdW5kZXJncmFkdWF0ZS1tYXN0ZXJzLXB#anchor-3

How many IR majors wind up doing something beyond think tank work? Hopkins helped me get into a T5 law school.

That’s great. Georgetown SFS sends a ton of people to top law schools.

Actually, you can apply early to Georgetown law school from SFS and you don’t have to take the LSAT.

Stop trying to make Hopkins out to be better than Georgetown SFS. It’s not convincing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Foreign Policy magazine surveyed 1500 policymakers, think tank staff, and IR faculty on undergrad, MA, and PhD programs:

Undergrad:

IR faculty: Georgetown #3; Hopkins #14
Policymakers: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #5
Think tank staff: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #7

MA:

All categories: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #2



https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/07/30/international-relations-school-rankings-university-undergraduate-masters-phd-programs/?utm_content=gifting&tpcc=gifting_article&gifting_article=aW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC1yZWxhdGlvbnMtc2Nob29sLXJhbmtpbmdzLXVuaXZlcnNpdHktdW5kZXJncmFkdWF0ZS1tYXN0ZXJzLXB#anchor-3

How many IR majors wind up doing something beyond think tank work? Hopkins helped me get into a T5 law school.

That’s great. Georgetown SFS sends a ton of people to top law schools.

Actually, you can apply early to Georgetown law school from SFS and you don’t have to take the LSAT.

Stop trying to make Hopkins out to be better than Georgetown SFS. It’s not convincing.

Is Georgetown a T14 law school? I thought it was just outside.

[Anonymous]

Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One huge difference between Hopkins and Georgetown for undergrad is that Hopkins does not have a dedicated undergrad school for international politics.

Hopkins IR is in the school of arts and sciences. In contrast, SFS is its own school, separate from the College. It has its own dedicated resources.

When you combine that with Georgetown’s DC location, SFS is clearly the stronger school.

I was able to take classes with adjuncts who were also in the government, such as the US Ambassador to the Netherlands. Georgetown’s location makes it easier for government officials to do their jobs and teach classes.

It’s also easy to do internships on the Hill and other places during the semester.

Hopkins IR major here, I also had classes taught by government officials, DC is half an hour away by train so an easy commute.

The new Hopkins building in DC is absolutely gorgeous and centrally located. Far nicer than Georgetown’s campus.

I’m not sure you have the strongest argument in terms of location when we’re talking about Baltimore.

And yes, I recognize that Hopkins has a DC building.

Georgetown is entirely in DC. It still wins.

In your own mind, you already said that, repeatedly.

Hopkins has a far larger endowment than Georgetown and those greater resources affect the student experience in a myriad of ways, particularly if a family needs financial aid, since Hopkins is a “no loan” school.

You don’t need a large endowment to get an excellent education in international politics and related fields. I sat in a classroom with Richard Holbrooke and studied the US’s response to the Balkans crisis, which he led. We needed nothing except for a classroom and some chairs.

Moreover, the school’s overall endowment is less important to this conversation than the amount of money that goes to the programs in question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Foreign Policy magazine surveyed 1500 policymakers, think tank staff, and IR faculty on undergrad, MA, and PhD programs:

Undergrad:

IR faculty: Georgetown #3; Hopkins #14
Policymakers: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #5
Think tank staff: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #7

MA:

All categories: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #2



https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/07/30/international-relations-school-rankings-university-undergraduate-masters-phd-programs/?utm_content=gifting&tpcc=gifting_article&gifting_article=aW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC1yZWxhdGlvbnMtc2Nob29sLXJhbmtpbmdzLXVuaXZlcnNpdHktdW5kZXJncmFkdWF0ZS1tYXN0ZXJzLXB#anchor-3

How many IR majors wind up doing something beyond think tank work? Hopkins helped me get into a T5 law school.

That’s great. Georgetown SFS sends a ton of people to top law schools.

Actually, you can apply early to Georgetown law school from SFS and you don’t have to take the LSAT.

Stop trying to make Hopkins out to be better than Georgetown SFS. It’s not convincing.

Is Georgetown a T14 law school? I thought it was just outside.

It’s 14, tied with Cornell.