Hopkins or Georgetown sfs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The Government Department in the college does. SFS does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Foreign Policy magazine surveyed 1500 policymakers, think tank staff, and IR faculty on undergrad, MA, and PhD programs:

Undergrad:

IR faculty: Georgetown #3; Hopkins #14
Policymakers: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #5
Think tank staff: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #7

MA:

All categories: Georgetown #1; Hopkins #2



https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/07/30/international-relations-school-rankings-university-undergraduate-masters-phd-programs/?utm_content=gifting&tpcc=gifting_article&gifting_article=aW50ZXJuYXRpb25hbC1yZWxhdGlvbnMtc2Nob29sLXJhbmtpbmdzLXVuaXZlcnNpdHktdW5kZXJncmFkdWF0ZS1tYXN0ZXJzLXB#anchor-3

+1. I don’t know why people are still arguing this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

Bumping

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The Government Department in the college does. SFS does not.

Well, that’s one clear advantage for Hopkins then. 3 years in Baltimore, two in DC.

And yes, endowment matters, because kids don’t live their life in just the classroom. Hopkins is opening a brand new gorgeous student center. Financial aid is much better. And the SAIS campus, should they chose to pursue the BA/MA is absolutely gorgeous and in a prime center city location.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The Government Department in the college does. SFS does not.

Well, that’s one clear advantage for Hopkins then. 3 years in Baltimore, two in DC.

And yes, endowment matters, because kids don’t live their life in just the classroom. Hopkins is opening a brand new gorgeous student center. Financial aid is much better. And the SAIS campus, should they chose to pursue the BA/MA is absolutely gorgeous and in a prime center city location.

We know you love your school and that’s great. Hopkins is a good school. Georgetown SFS is still better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The Government Department in the college does. SFS does not.

Well, that’s one clear advantage for Hopkins then. 3 years in Baltimore, two in DC.

And yes, endowment matters, because kids don’t live their life in just the classroom. Hopkins is opening a brand new gorgeous student center. Financial aid is much better. And the SAIS campus, should they chose to pursue the BA/MA is absolutely gorgeous and in a prime center city location.

We know you love your school and that’s great. Hopkins is a good school. Georgetown SFS is still better.

You seem really lovely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. My question is driven by possible option of ed2 to Hopkins. Or maybe they just wait for rd georgetown decision? Kid prefers georgetown (but admittedly we know less about hopkins). I was pondering the potential benefit of hopkins ed2 acceptance rates and if I should encourage my kid to lean into that opportunity if program and community is strong.

Your kid prefers Georgetown, so there is your answer. Why are you asking us when your kid already has a preference? No, do not make him apply early decision to a school that is not his first choice.

[Anonymous]

Op, did your kid EA to Georgetown? If deferred, I would consider ED2 to Hopkins but I think Hopkins is likely a harder admit.

Before applying ED2, you should at least visit Hopkins, and maybe ask to sit in on a class or meet a student majoring in IR. Hopkins has Greek life, about 30 percent of kids participate. Georgetown has more of a bar culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op, did your kid EA to Georgetown? If deferred, I would consider ED2 to Hopkins but I think Hopkins is likely a harder admit.

Before applying ED2, you should at least visit Hopkins, and maybe ask to sit in on a class or meet a student majoring in IR. Hopkins has Greek life, about 30 percent of kids participate. Georgetown has more of a bar culture.

Georgetown doesn’t have frats or sororities.

It’s more of a house party culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One huge difference between Hopkins and Georgetown for undergrad is that Hopkins does not have a dedicated undergrad school for international politics.

Hopkins IR is in the school of arts and sciences. In contrast, SFS is its own school, separate from the College. It has its own dedicated resources.

When you combine that with Georgetown’s DC location, SFS is clearly the stronger school.

I was able to take classes with adjuncts who were also in the government, such as the US Ambassador to the Netherlands. Georgetown’s location makes it easier for government officials to do their jobs and teach classes.

It’s also easy to do internships on the Hill and other places during the semester.

Hopkins IR major here, I also had classes taught by government officials, DC is half an hour away by train so an easy commute.

The new Hopkins building in DC is absolutely gorgeous and centrally located. Far nicer than Georgetown’s campus.

Undergrads are taking the train to dc for classes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The School of Foreign Service does, yes.

https://msfs.georgetown.edu/academics/msfs/degree-options/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One huge difference between Hopkins and Georgetown for undergrad is that Hopkins does not have a dedicated undergrad school for international politics.

Hopkins IR is in the school of arts and sciences. In contrast, SFS is its own school, separate from the College. It has its own dedicated resources.

When you combine that with Georgetown’s DC location, SFS is clearly the stronger school.

I was able to take classes with adjuncts who were also in the government, such as the US Ambassador to the Netherlands. Georgetown’s location makes it easier for government officials to do their jobs and teach classes.

It’s also easy to do internships on the Hill and other places during the semester.

Hopkins IR major here, I also had classes taught by government officials, DC is half an hour away by train so an easy commute.

The new Hopkins building in DC is absolutely gorgeous and centrally located. Far nicer than Georgetown’s campus.

Undergrads are taking the train to dc for classes?

No, professors take the train to the Homewood campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The School of Foreign Service does, yes.

https://msfs.georgetown.edu/academics/msfs/degree-options/

That doesn’t appear to be 5myear, looks like 6.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The School of Foreign Service does, yes.

https://msfs.georgetown.edu/academics/msfs/degree-options/

That doesn’t appear to be 5myear, looks like 6.

“The BSBA/MSFS & BSFS/MSFS dual degrees are five-year, full-time programs in which you enter the MSFS program in the senior year of your undergraduate Bachelor of Science in Business Administration or Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service program.”

Looks like Georgetown SFS really does have everything Hopkins has and more.

There’s a reason it’s number 1.

Hoya Saxa!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Georgetown offer a 5 year BA/MA option?

The School of Foreign Service does, yes.

https://msfs.georgetown.edu/academics/msfs/degree-options/

That doesn’t appear to be 5myear, looks like 6.

“The BSBA/MSFS & BSFS/MSFS dual degrees are five-year, full-time programs in which you enter the MSFS program in the senior year of your undergraduate Bachelor of Science in Business Administration or Bachelor of Science in Foreign Service program.”

Looks like Georgetown SFS really does have everything Hopkins has and more.

There’s a reason it’s number 1.

Hoya Saxa!

Oh please, it’s a very strong department in a school with poor financial aid and decaying infrastructure.