is a 1400 achievable for most kids?

Anonymous
My kid had expensive 1:1 prep and his score only increased by something like 50 pts to a super scored 1400.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If your kid can't get a 1400 Duke will be a real challenge academically. The rest once your in, getting out with less than a 3.8 is very hard.


^this… go where your kid is an academic fit.
Anonymous
My kid had expensive 1:1 prep and his score only increased by something like 50 pts to a super scored 1400. DCUM had me thinking he could gain 100pts or more with prep, but I guess as with most things, ymmv.
Anonymous
It can be done. DS had an 1180 (or something like that) on the PSAT. With prep, he got a 1480 on the SAT (super score).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It can be done. DS had an 1180 (or something like that) on the PSAT. With prep, he got a 1480 on the SAT (super score).


But you will need to balance it with your child’s mental health. My DD (on the other hand) had a 1280 on the PSAT but got a 1380 on the SAT. Her practice test scores actually dropped the more she took them, so boycotted future prep and went test optional.
Anonymous
None of us are Nostradamus but it seems like it’s about 40% chance your kid will get to 1400 with crazy intense prep. But your kid is going to struggle academically in college and it will be stressful. Much better to aim one step down - schools like Tulane, Rochester, Lafayette etc where they can compete on the team but also gain confidence academically.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it was easier to do with the paper version for various reasons. It is still possible with hard work, but I think a waste of time for your kid. If your kid has the metrics, the coach will push your kid. Get a tutor and try to bring it up 100 points.


Why was the paper version easier?


With the paper version, the scoring is very transparent and easier to detect and correct problem areas. If you took the test, you could receive a report detailing which questions you got wrong. With the longer test and more questions, each question was weighted less. With the digital version, scoring is more of a mystery. You don’t know how much each question is weighted. You cannot find out what you got wrong. You can only find out your range of score in categories such as geometry. The range of score is extremely broad for someone trying to pick up points in various areas as are the categories themselves. Thus, you are likely having to study much grader content in the past to improve. An athlete simply doesn’t have time to devote to this format.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It can be done. DS had an 1180 (or something like that) on the PSAT. With prep, he got a 1480 on the SAT (super score).


PP. I said above that OP needs to know whether it was the PSAT or SAT that they are citing. Fall of junior year would more normally be PSAT.

The goal is much more attainable from a PSAT of 1180.

I'm pretty sure my kid had a PSAT near that score (high 1100s to low 1200s) and got a 1430 single sitting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This topic has been beaten to death on this forum but a 1400 is a good score! We have to get out of this strange unhealthy universe where people are wringing their hands and agonizing over anything less than a 1550.


It is a good score, both of mine got above that first time, one and done. However, neither cracked the Top 25 schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:so my kid is a junior athlete - ivy aspirations for 4 schools (Duke, Cornell, Brown, Penn), and has been told they have the talent - it’s a sport with measurable times, sooo, it’s legit. Good grades T10% - and has been told a 1400 score is needed. Kid hit 1180 with some prep in September.

Appreciate all on this site, but would really appreciate answers staying on topic and just commenting on the following question - with unlimited view on prep, can just about any kid get up to a 1400? don’t want views on feasibility of interest or handicapping kids odds on getting in, or asking about/commenting on the sport, kids focus on just these schools, blah blah - pls pls just answer the question if you choose to reply


I taught at Kaplan for years and 1400 is not achievable for most kids. However if your kid is at 1180, I would say there's a reasonable chance you can get to 1400 with a good dedicated tutor that focuses on getting your kid into the heads of the test writers. As they say, think like the test writer
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think it was easier to do with the paper version for various reasons. It is still possible with hard work, but I think a waste of time for your kid. If your kid has the metrics, the coach will push your kid. Get a tutor and try to bring it up 100 points.


Why was the paper version easier?


With the paper version, the scoring is very transparent and easier to detect and correct problem areas. If you took the test, you could receive a report detailing which questions you got wrong. With the longer test and more questions, each question was weighted less. With the digital version, scoring is more of a mystery. You don’t know how much each question is weighted. You cannot find out what you got wrong. You can only find out your range of score in categories such as geometry. The range of score is extremely broad for someone trying to pick up points in various areas as are the categories themselves. Thus, you are likely having to study much grader content in the past to improve. An athlete simply doesn’t have time to devote to this format.


Do the Blue Book practice tests show you which items you get wrong?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:so my kid is a junior athlete - ivy aspirations for 4 schools (Duke, Cornell, Brown, Penn), and has been told they have the talent - it’s a sport with measurable times, sooo, it’s legit. Good grades T10% - and has been told a 1400 score is needed. Kid hit 1180 with some prep in September.

Appreciate all on this site, but would really appreciate answers staying on topic and just commenting on the following question - with unlimited view on prep, can just about any kid get up to a 1400? don’t want views on feasibility of interest or handicapping kids odds on getting in, or asking about/commenting on the sport, kids focus on just these schools, blah blah - pls pls just answer the question if you choose to reply


I taught at Kaplan for years and 1400 is not achievable for most kids. However if your kid is at 1180, I would say there's a reasonable chance you can get to 1400 with a good dedicated tutor that focuses on getting your kid into the heads of the test writers. As they say, think like the test writer


I love the way everyone is saying "your kid can do this" with little or no knowledge of the kid.

The fact is that most kids cannot and do not get 1400 no matter how hard they try.
Anonymous
It seems that most kids are easily scoring above 1400 according to this forum.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Sure it’s possible. It also sounds like the “he’s been told he’s ivy level” is very far from someone actually doing a pre read and then making an actual offer. Good luck. Ivy sounds ambitious with this grade and score profile


yep, thank god he’s an athlete - and only needs a 1400 - cause the coach wants him fella
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:so my kid is a junior athlete - ivy aspirations for 4 schools (Duke, Cornell, Brown, Penn), and has been told they have the talent - it’s a sport with measurable times, sooo, it’s legit. Good grades T10% - and has been told a 1400 score is needed. Kid hit 1180 with some prep in September.

Appreciate all on this site, but would really appreciate answers staying on topic and just commenting on the following question - with unlimited view on prep, can just about any kid get up to a 1400? don’t want views on feasibility of interest or handicapping kids odds on getting in, or asking about/commenting on the sport, kids focus on just these schools, blah blah - pls pls just answer the question if you choose to reply


I taught at Kaplan for years and 1400 is not achievable for most kids. However if your kid is at 1180, I would say there's a reasonable chance you can get to 1400 with a good dedicated tutor that focuses on getting your kid into the heads of the test writers. As they say, think like the test writer


I love the way everyone is saying "your kid can do this" with little or no knowledge of the kid.

The fact is that most kids cannot and do not get 1400 no matter how hard they try.


This! Some people are so ridiculous on here.
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