is a 1400 achievable for most kids?

[Anonymous]

so my kid is a junior athlete - ivy aspirations for 4 schools (Duke, Cornell, Brown, Penn), and has been told they have the talent - it’s a sport with measurable times, sooo, it’s legit. Good grades T10% - and has been told a 1400 score is needed. Kid hit 1180 with some prep in September.

Appreciate all on this site, but would really appreciate answers staying on topic and just commenting on the following question - with unlimited view on prep, can just about any kid get up to a 1400? don’t want views on feasibility of interest or handicapping kids odds on getting in, or asking about/commenting on the sport, kids focus on just these schools, blah blah - pls pls just answer the question if you choose to reply

[Anonymous]

Duke is not an Ivy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duke is not an Ivy.

+1

[Anonymous]

1400 is 97th percentile, so, no, I don't think everyone could achieve it. A 200 point increase is maybe doable, depending on how much prep already went into getting the 1180.

[Anonymous]

No, most kids do not score 1400 on the SAT.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:so my kid is a junior athlete - ivy aspirations for 4 schools (Duke, Cornell, Brown, Penn), and has been told they have the talent - it’s a sport with measurable times, sooo, it’s legit. Good grades T10% - and has been told a 1400 score is needed. Kid hit 1180 with some prep in September.

Appreciate all on this site, but would really appreciate answers staying on topic and just commenting on the following question - with unlimited view on prep, can just about any kid get up to a 1400? don’t want views on feasibility of interest or handicapping kids odds on getting in, or asking about/commenting on the sport, kids focus on just these schools, blah blah - pls pls just answer the question if you choose to reply

I think it's achievable to get to the upper 700s on the math through hard work alone. With a ~760 on the math (very achievable in my opinion) and high 600s on the reading (at least) you're in good shape. Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so my kid is a junior athlete - ivy aspirations for 4 schools (Duke, Cornell, Brown, Penn), and has been told they have the talent - it’s a sport with measurable times, sooo, it’s legit. Good grades T10% - and has been told a 1400 score is needed. Kid hit 1180 with some prep in September.

Appreciate all on this site, but would really appreciate answers staying on topic and just commenting on the following question - with unlimited view on prep, can just about any kid get up to a 1400? don’t want views on feasibility of interest or handicapping kids odds on getting in, or asking about/commenting on the sport, kids focus on just these schools, blah blah - pls pls just answer the question if you choose to reply

I think it's achievable to get to the upper 700s on the math through hard work alone. With a ~760 on the math (very achievable in my opinion) and high 600s on the reading (at least) you're in good shape. Good luck!

And I just want to add that I've heard this from test prep professionals (that the math is very coachable). I rarely see an 800 on the RW and a 760 on the math. 1510s, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, almost always have ~800 on math and ~7something on reading.

[Anonymous]

My kid was in a similar boat. Good grades, but never top top
Scorer- 4s on lots of APs, but never 5s. Has to study to do well. Started with 1280 after some basic self prep. After 2 months of targeted prep with online tests focusing on math got to 1430 next sitting. I feel confident they could have done even better with more prep- but an athlete so didn’t need to do better. I will say vast majority of improvement in math after we closed on some gaps in understanding - verbal score didn’t move much and I have heard that section can be harder to make significant improvements. Also the stress was hard in the kid. Would advise you not to start talking ivys with friends and family as it adds to stress- people get excited for them and that just creates added stress.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think most kids can do it but maybe your kid can. It can’t hurt to try.

Maybe try the ACT too. Some kids find one easier than the other.

[Anonymous]

Did they give an ACT target? Some students vibe more with the ACT.

[Anonymous]

A student who has to work that hard to get a 1400 will really struggle at an Ivy or Duke. Between the rigorous academics and athletic commitments, he will be miserable. Look elsewhere.

[Anonymous]

Doable but difficult, no guarantee they’d get there. And I would also be worried about how prepared the actually are to succeed at Ivy level even if they scrape by with the SAT score. You don’t list GPA but you do say top 10% of the class. It’s always a little concerning when there’s an imbalance between a high GPA and low test scores - it raises the question of whether the GPA has been inflated and if the kid is really prepared for ivy level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Duke is not an Ivy.

read the post friendo - stay on topic! no criticism!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doable but difficult, no guarantee they’d get there. And I would also be worried about how prepared the actually are to succeed at Ivy level even if they scrape by with the SAT score. You don’t list GPA but you do say top 10% of the class. It’s always a little concerning when there’s an imbalance between a high GPA and low test scores - it raises the question of whether the GPA has been inflated and if the kid is really prepared for ivy level.

pls people, just answer the question - no commentary!

[Anonymous]

lol. NO. It’s not possible for most kids. It’s possible for smart kids though.