“Obama Did Not Want Her"

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I definitely believe this. Didn't Obama even say something about how we will let this play out and see who the people want? There should have been a primary. it was not a democratic process. Obama is shrewd and knew she was a poor candidate. Biden is bitter and spiteful at this point and he is fortunate he hasn't been further pulled into his son's mess when there is likely enough evidence for him to be in trouble.

The democratic party can do better. There are plenty of greats among them and hopefully they will bring forth better options in 4 years.


Yes he said it at the time - this is hardly news.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the love of G-d can the washed up grifter Obamas just go away? Who anointed them king and queen of the Democratic Party?



What a weird post! You live in some alternate universe. Lol
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Anonymous wrote:For the love of G-d can the washed up grifter Obamas just go away? Who anointed them king and queen of the Democratic Party?



What a weird post! You live in some alternate universe. Lol

DP
I’m completely F’ing sick and tired of Obama (either of them for that matter) having their hands still in the game 8 years later.

Enough already. You had your time. Now go off and do whatever it is retired Presidents do. Build houses for your charity. Work on your ranch. Whatever. Just do it, and get the hell out of current politics.

PP is correct. They aren’t royalty. GTFA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Obama was smart enough to realize that this wasn't the election to run a POC woman.

Look at young men - they've been absolutely primed by podcasts and social media to be anti-woman. The current media absorbed by young men is horrifically toxic; it's a lot worse than 15 years ago when I was in my 20s. Conservative Inc built a better mouse trap for capturing these young male minds.

Democrats could've blunted this advantage with a white male POTUS candidate. Obama knew the time was not right for a Harris presidency, given how young men are trending the historic unpopularity of the Biden administration. The well was poisoned.

The cards just were not in her favor.


Obama really pissed off black people in this election. I am really sick of folks spewing this. Kamala was a great candidate. I must say, better than I expected. Biden waited too long. Trump barely won. No Dem was going to win in this cycle.

Obama no longer speaks for us.
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Anonymous wrote:Obama was smart enough to realize that this wasn't the election to run a POC woman.

Look at young men - they've been absolutely primed by podcasts and social media to be anti-woman. The current media absorbed by young men is horrifically toxic; it's a lot worse than 15 years ago when I was in my 20s. Conservative Inc built a better mouse trap for capturing these young male minds.

Democrats could've blunted this advantage with a white male POTUS candidate. Obama knew the time was not right for a Harris presidency, given how young men are trending the historic unpopularity of the Biden administration. The well was poisoned.

The cards just were not in her favor.


Ha. No. Not with the current Democrat platform and agenda, they couldn't.

I disagree. That’s why Obama was apparently trying to get Sen. Kelly the nomination.

Just look at the way Obama handled these issues during his campaigns. He effectively always said that he understands why people feel uncomfortable but he’s personally comfortable enough in his own manhood to be okay with X, Y, and Z.

It certainly works a lot better than yelling at people that by not agreeing with you they are racist misogynistic murderers.


Stop dreaming. Sen Kelly would not have beaten Trump this year. This is precisely why no reasonable Democrat (Shapiro, Newsom, Whitmer) wanted anything to do with this ticket. It wasn't just Harris, although she was a big part of the problem. But the Biden administration in general was such a disaster that the country was screaming for change - any change.
Anonymous
It's really funny that the "muh democracy" crowd tried to elect an unqualified woman without actually nominating her via a primary. The party and its adherents are unserious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/11/25/dem_donor_biden_nominated_kamala_harris_to_say_f_you_obama_did_not_want_her.html


Dem Donor: Biden Nominated Kamala Harris To Say "F You," "Obama Did Not Want Her"

Democratic megadonor John Morgan tells “CUOMO” that those who poured money into the Harris-Walz campaign were trying to defeat Trump, not elect Harris.

When asked about how he thinks President Joe Biden feels about the 2024 election result he said, “He nominated her, basically Obama did not want her. Obama did not endorse her for five days, Pelosi did not want her. Pelosi told her California delegation, there will be a conference, there will be a Caucus, there will be a convention. We basically ran on this deal where democracy, democracy, and then we didn't have democracy in picking our nominee.” He added that President Joe Biden only selected Harris to replace him as the Democratic presidential nominee because, “it was to say, f you to Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama and every representative that was pushing him out.”

I believe this. Joe and Jill are never going to get over Joe being pushed out. They will forever insist that Biden could have beat Trump a second time.


He was pushed out to make room for Hillary. That was a mistake and he's still sore about it. I think understandably so. He could have won in 2016 and 2020.
Anonymous
Anyone who wanted a primary clearly has no idea how long it would take to put a primary together. Harris was the only plausible choice given the timing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wanted a primary clearly has no idea how long it would take to put a primary together. Harris was the only plausible choice given the timing.


No, the choice was to have a primary during the normal timetable instead of clearing the field for Biden. Democrats didn't need democracy until they did.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This was clear from the beginning as he dragged his feet to endorse her. He was right too.

The fact of the matter is the voters didn't want her at the top of the ticket in 2020 and she did nothing to change her image in the last four years. I believe Biden threw his weight behind her spitefully in retaliation for being pushed out because he knew she couldnt win.


It was hysterical how Biden kept trying to undermine her. He was mad, and I don't blame him. After she lost he looked happy as can be. He still has the distinction of being the only one to beat Trump. He got the last laugh on Pelosi, Obama, and Clooney.


I did giggle when Biden wore the MAGA hat. It was pretty clear he was not a Harris fan. I so wish there had been a primary. There were plenty of good candidates among those who likely have presidential aspirations.


Do you blame him? He had a palace coup pulled on him. He’s got every right to be bitter. He should’ve had the chance to run, like any incumbent president should’ve had, and win or lose on his own.

I don’t like Biden, but I’m furious for how he was disrespected by his party.


Np oh please. Spare us. You could care less about how Biden was treated.

This whole thread is like salt in an open wound. Why are you people happy with your victory? Why do you have to grind us down?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I believe this but, spell out to me how they would have skipped over Harris without unleashing a national temper tantrum on TikTok about racism.


Who gives a shit about a temper tantrum on TikTok?

Biden would have won a second term.


What good is that now? But I don't think you are correct.

People wanted an old white guy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The first woman president will be a Republican


So no woman will be elected then
Those R men don't like women and expect them to a traditional wife. And R women also hate women.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The first woman president will be a Republican

I feel this in my bones.


Another agree
Anonymous
I don’t know whether it’s more pathetic or amusing that MAGA just recycles all the things that were said about Trump and tries to apply them to Democrats. “The Obamas are grifters.” “The Biden crime family.” Trump won, but they’re still sore about the Obamas’ popularity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t know whether it’s more pathetic or amusing that MAGA just recycles all the things that were said about Trump and tries to apply them to Democrats. “The Obamas are grifters.” “The Biden crime family.” Trump won, but they’re still sore about the Obamas’ popularity.


I wouldn't call the Obamas grifters. Trump is a grifter due to his NFT-type stunts. The Obamas are vicious liars, though, and people who don't understand how much the media covered for the lying Obamas will never understand how awful it was to listen to support for that man for eight years.
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