LLIV - how many of the kids in the class are principal placed?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school is a center with 4 classes.

There is 1 fully level IV class with all the transfer kids and some base kids
There is 1 blended level IV/level III class with base kids only (about 50/50 split per teacher)
2 gen ed classes

I'm confused about this. How can there be a class at a center school containing both level IV and level III kids? I thought at the center school the level IV kids were always separated into their own classroom. Maybe that's not true?

It sounds like there are Centers that allow for Principal placement while others do not. It wouldn't be FCPS if schools didn't pick and choose what part of policies they want to enforce. Honestly, I have no problem with Centers allowing for Principal placement, it really isn't fair to kids at the base school that they are not given that chance. If there is space in the LIV class then allow LIII kids into that class.

[Anonymous]

It’s just annoying bc why have a center at that point. We took the leap to attend the center and commute quite a ways due to being told that centers have classes with all liv students, which would’ve been a stronger peer group than local, which moved to cluster model.

Not arguing with what you are saying philosophically… but if we are giving all liii students the chance to be in liv class, what is even the point?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school is a center with 4 classes.

There is 1 fully level IV class with all the transfer kids and some base kids
There is 1 blended level IV/level III class with base kids only (about 50/50 split per teacher)
2 gen ed classes

I'm confused about this. How can there be a class at a center school containing both level IV and level III kids? I thought at the center school the level IV kids were always separated into their own classroom. Maybe that's not true?

It sounds like there are Centers that allow for Principal placement while others do not. It wouldn't be FCPS if schools didn't pick and choose what part of policies they want to enforce. Honestly, I have no problem with Centers allowing for Principal placement, it really isn't fair to kids at the base school that they are not given that chance. If there is space in the LIV class then allow LIII kids into that class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, there's no way to determine which LLIV students were committee-placed unless the school administrators, parent, or student disclose it. Whether it's a base or center school, their internal decisions are unpredictable, and they'll have to figure out how to manage their school accordingly.

Centers can't principal place. That's the big drawback for kids zoned to centers- it's committee or bust because there are no mixed classrooms either

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s just annoying bc why have a center at that point. We took the leap to attend the center and commute quite a ways due to being told that centers have classes with all liv students, which would’ve been a stronger peer group than local, which moved to cluster model.

Not arguing with what you are saying philosophically… but if we are giving all liii students the chance to be in liv class, what is even the point?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our school is a center with 4 classes.

There is 1 fully level IV class with all the transfer kids and some base kids
There is 1 blended level IV/level III class with base kids only (about 50/50 split per teacher)
2 gen ed classes

I'm confused about this. How can there be a class at a center school containing both level IV and level III kids? I thought at the center school the level IV kids were always separated into their own classroom. Maybe that's not true?

It sounds like there are Centers that allow for Principal placement while others do not. It wouldn't be FCPS if schools didn't pick and choose what part of policies they want to enforce. Honestly, I have no problem with Centers allowing for Principal placement, it really isn't fair to kids at the base school that they are not given that chance. If there is space in the LIV class then allow LIII kids into that class.

Why should the level iii kid be disadvantaged just because their base school is a center?

[Anonymous]

How are they disadvantaged? Not all level iii kids are in a level iv classroom at a school with a local program either. Now if they weren’t getting level iii services, that would be a different story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are they disadvantaged? Not all level iii kids are in a level iv classroom at a school with a local program either. Now if they weren’t getting level iii services, that would be a different story.

If there are no principal placed kids then the pool that would be principal placed in non-centers is disadvantaged

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, there's no way to determine which LLIV students were committee-placed unless the school administrators, parent, or student disclose it. Whether it's a base or center school, their internal decisions are unpredictable, and they'll have to figure out how to manage their school accordingly.

Centers can't principal place. That's the big drawback for kids zoned to centers- it's committee or bust because there are no mixed classrooms either

You speak with confidence, but how do you know? Are you involved in every school administration? Do they share all their decisions with you? Lol... Things vary from school to school, and FCPS has certainly changed. For instance, I know a few families who were principal-placed at a center school.

[Anonymous]

Our school is a center school, and our neighbor's daughter was principal-placed there.

[Anonymous]

Old school centers that have been around for years seem to have less of the principal placed mind set. If you want to know about whether your school does or not ask the principal and you can review the school profile and guess.

[Anonymous]

I bet the kids who are principal placed at a center are among the top students in the AAP class. Center principals are likely to principal place the kids that should have been admitted by the central committee, but for whatever reason weren't. They're not going to place anyone who will be overwhelmed by the class or will slow down the class.

[Anonymous]

What I don't understand is how a school like Navy can exist where there are several AAP classes but only like 10 of the kids come from Crossfield. Are 70% of the kids at Navy really testing that high?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I don't understand is how a school like Navy can exist where there are several AAP classes but only like 10 of the kids come from Crossfield. Are 70% of the kids at Navy really testing that high?

The school profile does not reflect what you are saying. There are about 200 level IV students and about 600 3-6th graders. Which is 1/3 and normal for an AAP center. It’s a big school with almost 900 students.