What universities stand out for DC hiring managers?

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Anonymous wrote:People don’t want to accept this but increasingly there will be less and less differentiation between graduating from Yale or Princeton and graduating from UMiami or Penn State.

Some people may not like this but this is where we are going. So it really doesn’t matter where you go for undergrad.

Is there any concrete proof of this? We've seen that majors matter, but we've known that for a while. Is there any study showing a lack of differentiation between similar majors and kids coming from ivies and lower ranked schools? All of the salary data still favors the ivy grads unless you have other data

PP said that’s “where we’re going.”
So how can there be proof?

how can PP know where we're going without data?

People use anecdotal evidence on ground to form theories and then they’re confirmed or denied with data. But data is lagging indicator.

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Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad

Flat false. And I run hiring in the private sector.

Agree. Private sector. We recruit at specific schools and then look elsewhere if not full. We use recent grads from those schools to recruit: we currently have recruiters for Duke and 7 of the 8 ivies and Georgetown. We hire many different majors from these schools. We have had a lot of success from them so that is where we look. We hired less this year and filled all spots with recruiting at these schools

What's wrong with Dartmouth grads ?

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Have hired about 100 people over past decade in DC. Where you went to school does not matter.

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What’s the industry? When I hire for the federal government I’m looking at their work experience related to the job I have in mind. Sometimes I have to Google these no-name institutions to see where they are, but it doesn’t actually affect me at all if they are coming in with the specific skills I need based on previous positions. If they’re looking to get their foot in the first door, then yes, the usual suspects (HYPSM+) can help.

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Anonymous wrote:MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale

Really? Do the kids from these schools still get an extra nod?!

I thought we were past that and all that hiring managers cared about is experience and skills. If I have a kid from Penn State or UMiami with great internships why would I not pick them over a mediocre Yale or Princeton kid?!?!

That’s not what “an extra nod” means. It’s about comparing kids who otherwise look alike. I would definitely rather hire a superlative alum of a state school.

I think most would agree, but how do you tell which candidates are superlative?

Good grades in a rigorous major, interesting work/internships, good interviews?

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Anonymous wrote:MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale

Really? Do the kids from these schools still get an extra nod?!

I thought we were past that and all that hiring managers cared about is experience and skills. If I have a kid from Penn State or UMiami with great internships why would I not pick them over a mediocre Yale or Princeton kid?!?!

That’s not what “an extra nod” means. It’s about comparing kids who otherwise look alike. I would definitely rather hire a superlative alum of a state school.

I think most would agree, but how do you tell which candidates are superlative?

Good grades in a rigorous major, interesting work/internships, good interviews?

+1. I have found that interviews are the most important. I’ve seen people who are good on paper but bomb their interviews, and people who aren’t exciting on paper but make the case for themselves in an interview.

Also, relevancy matters for the resume and getting to the interview and consideration round. I’m more likely to interview someone from a mid-tier school whose resume fits neatly with the role than someone from a top-tier school that I can’t figure out why they want the job I’m hiring for.

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In STEM, I do not care which university. I care deeply about which degree you have (hint: BS in X is preferred over a BA in X) and I care which upper-level electives you took. Those things drive skills and knowledge, which are the 2 things we seek.

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Ivies, Duke, Northwestern, Chicago, Georgetown, MIT, Stanford... the usual suspects...

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Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad

Flat false. And I run hiring in the private sector.

Also who says flat false? So douchey sounding. If you alone ‘run hiring’ then you likely work at some small shop.

+1 This is an outdated approach and the newer generation of hiring managers doesn’t think like boomers.

It's too bad. I think that's why things are so much worse today.

The schools have done it to themselves with all the admission games and test optional. Not merit-based and it shows.

The first year of test optional were high school 2021s , they are not out yet. Can’t blame TO for anything related to jobs and hiring yet

They’re blaming hurricanes on TO.

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Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad

Flat false. And I run hiring in the private sector.

Agree. Private sector. We recruit at specific schools and then look elsewhere if not full. We use recent grads from those schools to recruit: we currently have recruiters for Duke and 7 of the 8 ivies and Georgetown. We hire many different majors from these schools. We have had a lot of success from them so that is where we look. We hired less this year and filled all spots with recruiting at these schools

Can you share what industry?

Broadly, consulting for businesses across the globe. Within that, financial consulting as well as HR and marketing consulting, and tech /innovation consulting.

DP who hires for finance and tech consulting within fortune 500. School name does not matter. 1:1 interview and 4:1 interview panel and in some cases testing for excel modeling or coding. Typically ignore ivy resumes became the ones we have demand higher pay for the same work and leave after a year or two.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MIT, Stanford, Princeton, Harvard, Yale

Really? Do the kids from these schools still get an extra nod?!

I thought we were past that and all that hiring managers cared about is experience and skills. If I have a kid from Penn State or UMiami with great internships why would I not pick them over a mediocre Yale or Princeton kid?!?!

That’s not what “an extra nod” means. It’s about comparing kids who otherwise look alike. I would definitely rather hire a superlative alum of a state school.

I think most would agree, but how do you tell which candidates are superlative?

Good grades in a rigorous major, interesting work/internships, good interviews?

+1. I have found that interviews are the most important. I’ve seen people who are good on paper but bomb their interviews, and people who aren’t exciting on paper but make the case for themselves in an interview.

Also, relevancy matters for the resume and getting to the interview and consideration round. I’m more likely to interview someone from a mid-tier school whose resume fits neatly with the role than someone from a top-tier school that I can’t figure out why they want the job I’m hiring for.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Have hired about 100 people over past decade in DC. Where you went to school does not matter.

Waste management company?

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Intelligence community has a soft spot for Yale and ND. But skills have to be there.

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Anonymous wrote:Have hired about 100 people over past decade in DC. Where you went to school does not matter.

Starbucks doesn’t count

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hiring manager in private sector. School doesn’t matter like it used to. At all. People need to understand that when they are thinking of spending 400k on undergrad

Flat false. And I run hiring in the private sector.

Agree. Private sector. We recruit at specific schools and then look elsewhere if not full. We use recent grads from those schools to recruit: we currently have recruiters for Duke and 7 of the 8 ivies and Georgetown. We hire many different majors from these schools. We have had a lot of success from them so that is where we look. We hired less this year and filled all spots with recruiting at these schools

Can you share what industry?

Broadly, consulting for businesses across the globe. Within that, financial consulting as well as HR and marketing consulting, and tech /innovation consulting.

DP who hires for finance and tech consulting within fortune 500. School name does not matter. 1:1 interview and 4:1 interview panel and in some cases testing for excel modeling or coding. Typically ignore ivy resumes became the ones we have demand higher pay for the same work and leave after a year or two.

Your job is like 8th tier for people wanting to do consulting