Hmm... definitely a GS-12. Getting the inferiority vibes big time. This is DCUM honey, there are no adults talking. There is a dearth of common sense here, and your prickly soft-skinned demeanor is proof positive. š |
Tell me you didnāt succeed in DC without telling me you didnāt succeed in DC. |
LOL, who needs to succeed in DC? Tell me you're an idiot that didn't succeed in real life without telling me you didn't succeed in real life. |
Jim must be important if he can get you a job at Raytheon on the basis of nepotism |
Interesting, this hasnāt been my experience with ivy grads at all. Over the past 10 years, Iāve hired and worked with graduates of Yale, Penn, Cornell, Princeton. They were all excellent - great attitude, super hard workers and delivered and often overdelivered. Iāve certainly never had instances where one of them refused to do a task that was beneath them, including copying. In fact, this one time we had a very important meeting with senior people and my EA was unfortunately sick and couldnāt take minutes. The Yale grad offered to do it without me even asking. Could this just be a Harvard thing? |
| My workplace redacts names, schools etc. to avoid implicit bias. So, school does not matter at all. We don't know the candidate's name or school until they are selected for the interview stage. |
| Please. So much of Fed hiring is through referrals or family connections, no matter what anyone claims on this board. Not a meritocracy. |
| Parent of a young adult here: in our experience, it doesn't matter. My DC went to a good but not top tier SLAC and got a great job after about 6 mo. His friends who went to better schools (inc Georgetown) with a similar major (in social sciences) took much, much longer. |
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Th school you attended only matters when looking in the rear view mirror.
If you went to work in PE or for a venture fund or a certain group of exclusive employees, you will likely agree that attending a top school mattered. If you decide to go into the Coca Cola management program or work for the government or work any number of jobs, you will say it doesnāt matter. |
Of course. |
This is so true. I hire in federal government , many of our best hires come from state schools. In the past 5 years, I have been on over two dozen job panels. The best hires were from JMU, university of Buffalo, Va. tech, UMD, Salisbury, Bucknell |
Wasn't that PP's point? Most Ivy grads aren't looking for govt work, especially since many F500 companies recruit on campus. |
| There's definitely a strong negative selection bias going on here. If an Ivy League student has to apply to government jobs, they messed up big time and are likely far, far below the average Ivy League graduate in terms of career readiness |
Ivy League schools arenāt all alike. Yale, for example, has long encouraged public service careers and the CIA. So, no, itās not about having āmessed up big timeā- itās about using your education and networking to get you where you want to go. |
+1. Princeton too. And itās not just āgovernment jobs,ā we are talking about policy and political jobs that are desired by kids with certain interests. Think policy jobs at State, Treasury, White House offices, or on the Hill, not management analyst at HUD. |