MD residents in DCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they are stealing my tax dollars but for some reason I would not bring myself to out the parents. Unless their kid was beating on mine. Especially if I knew the family was hard up. If they were well off I might be more inclined - because they should at least be paying out of state tuition, and should not be getting into schools with long waitlists.

I'm glad you're not in my gene pool. These people are STEALING from you, robbing DC students, and they have free education in their state. This is why DC is such a hole.

There are a lot of reasons DC is a hole, but I don't think that this is one of the biggies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Maryland residents in DC schools that I have encountered have been either enrolling in

1) DC preK, which is free, and Maryland does not have public preK

2) a unique charter school, which is not replicated as far as I know, in Maryland public schools.

As for 1), a parent looked me in the eye and told me that she used her parent's address (the student's grandparent) to enroll her child. When the preK year was finished, the child went to a MD school. I have also seen situations where custodial parents (think divorce, child lives with one parent in MD, other resides in DC) use the clearly non-custodial parent's address for residence.

I agree the rules could be clearer. But, if people are willing to lie, bend the rules, etc. they are.

Using non-custodial parent is perfectly legal. I think a lot of the MD residents you see at DCPS might be mothers whose kid's fathers live in DC.

[Anonymous]

As a MD resident I'd like to chime in. We chose a very popular language immersion program at a DC school because we don't have ANY similar options near us. We pay the non-resident tuition (around $10k depending on the grade) for our child and have never cheated the system. People, wake up! Just because you see a MD tag it doesn't mean they used a phony address to game to the system. I proudly tell anyone who asks (even the ones that whisper their question) that we do, in fact, live in MD and do pay to attend a so-so DCPS school so that DC can benefit from the language immersion. Then we do A LOT of supplementing at home!

[Anonymous]

I haven't read all these posts but I live in the Whitman district right over the DC line and I can't even imagine why I would choose to send my child to DCPS when I can send them to some of the best schools in the country in my own county. I really cant imagine there are others in our part of the county who would do that either (except maybe someone like the pp who wanted a specific program and is paying for it). That covers a good chunk of the DC border right there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read all these posts but I live in the Whitman district right over the DC line and I can't even imagine why I would choose to send my child to DCPS when I can send them to some of the best schools in the country in my own county. I really cant imagine there are others in our part of the county who would do that either (except maybe someone like the pp who wanted a specific program and is paying for it). That covers a good chunk of the DC border right there.

There was a poster on another thread who mentioned moving from MoCo to DC. She was in either Bethesda or Chevy Chase and didn't like the really high student:staff ratios in MoCo. They moved to DC, got into Cap City charter school and now her child is in a class of around 20 with 3 teachers. She couldn't be happier, so, yeah - there are definitely people coming to DC from MoCo because there are good reasons to do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read all these posts but I live in the Whitman district right over the DC line and I can't even imagine why I would choose to send my child to DCPS when I can send them to some of the best schools in the country in my own county. I really cant imagine there are others in our part of the county who would do that either (except maybe someone like the pp who wanted a specific program and is paying for it). That covers a good chunk of the DC border right there.

There was a poster on another thread who mentioned moving from MoCo to DC. She was in either Bethesda or Chevy Chase and didn't like the really high student:staff ratios in MoCo. They moved to DC, got into Cap City charter school and now her child is in a class of around 20 with 3 teachers. She couldn't be happier, so, yeah - there are definitely people coming to DC from MoCo because there are good reasons to do it.

But in your example the person moved to DC so presumably is now a DC resident. So shouldn't they be allowed to attend DCPS? Will be interesting to see what they choose when it comes time for high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven't read all these posts but I live in the Whitman district right over the DC line and I can't even imagine why I would choose to send my child to DCPS when I can send them to some of the best schools in the country in my own county. I really cant imagine there are others in our part of the county who would do that either (except maybe someone like the pp who wanted a specific program and is paying for it). That covers a good chunk of the DC border right there.

There was a poster on another thread who mentioned moving from MoCo to DC. She was in either Bethesda or Chevy Chase and didn't like the really high student:staff ratios in MoCo. They moved to DC, got into Cap City charter school and now her child is in a class of around 20 with 3 teachers. She couldn't be happier, so, yeah - there are definitely people coming to DC from MoCo because there are good reasons to do it.

But in your example the person moved to DC so presumably is now a DC resident. So shouldn't they be allowed to attend DCPS? Will be interesting to see what they choose when it comes time for high school.

Of course she should be allowed to send her child to a DC public school. However the child is in Cap City (charter) which goes all the way through H.S.

The point was that this PP said " I really cant imagine there are others in our part of the county who would do that either (except maybe someone like the pp who wanted a specific program and is paying for it)" as though because she couldn't imagine it suggested there really shouldn't be a problem. However, her failure of imagination is refuted by another poster who found Cap City superior to the school(s) her child had attended in Bethesda. Ergo, there are probably other parents as well who aren't drinking the MoCo kool-aid.

[Anonymous]

What are we talking about here, 20-30 kids, max, who sneak into DC schools? Nobody has mentioned more than 2-3 kids at even the most likely targets of MoCo infiltration, such as Yu Ying. And nobody from MoCo is clamoring to get into Ballou. So all this outrage seems a bit overblown.

(And before you ask, we're not sending our MoCo kid to a DC school.)

[Anonymous]

I think its more than 20-30 kids. The wierd part is that they are sometimes sending their kids to really mediocre DCPS schools. Like, its hard to believe the schools are better that their neighborhood school - I think some parents do it for convenience and cheap aftercare.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are we talking about here, 20-30 kids, max, who sneak into DC schools? Nobody has mentioned more than 2-3 kids at even the most likely targets of MoCo infiltration, such as Yu Ying. And nobody from MoCo is clamoring to get into Ballou. So all this outrage seems a bit overblown.

(And before you ask, we're not sending our MoCo kid to a DC school.)

Agree with you. I mostly know people who have moved to MCPS for the schools, or a few DC residents who sent their kids to MCPS and paid the tuition (and a few more who did not pay the tuition). I suspect there is as much, if not more, outbound cheating as inbound. I think the Wilson program is actually pretty good but I am not going to send my kid there over Whitman.

[Anonymous]

If you spend a morning at one of the Capitol Hill publics, I'd estimate probably half of the license plates are from MD. Granted, the numbers are skewed by the fact that most in-boundary kids walk to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you spend a morning at one of the Capitol Hill publics, I'd estimate probably half of the license plates are from MD. Granted, the numbers are skewed by the fact that most in-boundary kids walk to school.

I think you're on to something. The real problem isn't kids from MoCo attending DCPS. It's kids from "Ward 9" attending DCPS.

[Anonymous]

I tend to think the combination of non-custodial parent, and various other non-traditional households accounts for more of the "out-of-state license plate" phenomenon than out-and-out fraud. There are very few traditional households in that cohort anymore--the scope of that issue is easy to underestimate.

[Anonymous]

Also sometimes people move and don't change their tags.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also sometimes people move and don't change their tags.

Although that's rarely a long-term thing with the stepped-up enforcement in DC.

http://dmv.washingtondc.gov/serv/registration/ROSA.shtm

I *love* calling the MPD/DPW on folks with out-of-state tags. I do it even when they're parked on private property (which is no less illegal). The enforcement folks are super-tenacious.