U Chicago vs Georgetown

[Anonymous]

Who is telling him he won't get into Penn? If that is his first choice, I think he should apply there.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think ED to Chicago is so much easier than ED to Penn?

Seems comparable to me.

Because Chicago admits the bulk of its class ED and Penn doesn’t.

Penn's ED rate is 14.8%. I haven't seen the latest leaked ED stats from UChicago, though a few years ago it was something like 18%, so mid-teens seems likely, around the same as Penn.

In my opinion, the main difference would be that UChicago is looking for a certain type of applicant and the Uncommon Essay is very, very important. Either he is or isn't that type of applicant.

per admitted students webinar shortly after the EA/ED1 round, there were over 20,000 applicants and they accepted 1000. So that makes it a 5% acceptance rate for that round. What was not said was how much of that was ED and how much was EA which people here like to split hairs on. The one sure thing is that the EA rate for this round is not zero as my child that needed FA was accepted and they applied EA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chicago for econ. no question

Nobel prize winner, George Akerlof, says hi.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago for econ. no question

Nobel prize winner, George Akerlof, says hi.

And 99 Nobel Prize winners from UChicago say "Hi" back

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think ED to Chicago is so much easier than ED to Penn?

Seems comparable to me.

Because Chicago admits the bulk of its class ED and Penn doesn’t.

Penn's ED rate is 14.8%. I haven't seen the latest leaked ED stats from UChicago, though a few years ago it was something like 18%, so mid-teens seems likely, around the same as Penn.

In my opinion, the main difference would be that UChicago is looking for a certain type of applicant and the Uncommon Essay is very, very important. Either he is or isn't that type of applicant.

per admitted students webinar shortly after the EA/ED1 round, there were over 20,000 applicants and they accepted 1000. So that makes it a 5% acceptance rate for that round. What was not said was how much of that was ED and how much was EA which people here like to split hairs on. The one sure thing is that the EA rate for this round is not zero as my child that needed FA was accepted and they applied EA.

EA is typically in the neighborhood of 2-4%. The difference between ED and EA is not splitting hairs.

[Anonymous]

I think Chicago is the answer. And I think he wants Chicago? This is an easy call.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do you think ED to Chicago is so much easier than ED to Penn?

Seems comparable to me.

Because Chicago admits the bulk of its class ED and Penn doesn’t.

Penn's ED rate is 14.8%. I haven't seen the latest leaked ED stats from UChicago, though a few years ago it was something like 18%, so mid-teens seems likely, around the same as Penn.

In my opinion, the main difference would be that UChicago is looking for a certain type of applicant and the Uncommon Essay is very, very important. Either he is or isn't that type of applicant.

per admitted students webinar shortly after the EA/ED1 round, there were over 20,000 applicants and they accepted 1000. So that makes it a 5% acceptance rate for that round. What was not said was how much of that was ED and how much was EA which people here like to split hairs on. The one sure thing is that the EA rate for this round is not zero as my child that needed FA was accepted and they applied EA.

There are two types of people in the world: those who recognize obfuscation for what it is, and those who perpetuate it as (dis)information.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago for econ. no question

Nobel prize winner, George Akerlof, says hi.

And 99 Nobel Prize winners from UChicago say "Hi" back

Does this have anything to do with undergraduate studies?

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Anonymous wrote:Chicago for econ. no question

Nobel prize winner, George Akerlof, says hi.

And 99 Nobel Prize winners from UChicago say "Hi" back

Yeah, Chicago has fallen off some and rides its reputation but Akerlof is 84 and only at GU because his wife’s career here. And Chicago still has Heckman, Hansen, Thaler, Diamond, etc. Fama too I guess though he’s even older than Akerlof, not sure how much he does there anymore.

[Anonymous]

Chicago no question!

[Anonymous]

Per my mail carrier, Chicago no question!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah sure, the unqualified “multitudes” are just dying to prove their intellectual mettle and kill a few weeks writing a detailed response to one of the UChicago essay prompts. Half of all teenagers composed a response to this one:

“How many piano tuners are there in Chicago? What is the total length of chalk used by UChicago professors in a year? How many pages of books are in the Regenstein Library? These questions are among a class of estimation problems named after University of Chicago physicist Enrico Fermi. Create your own Fermi estimation problem, give it your best answer, and show us how you got there.”

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Anonymous wrote:If he loves both, he should try for the ED for Chicago, that will be a much easier admit than Georgetown (not that it will be easy). Georgetown's admit rate is extremely low for RE and RD. If it was on the Common App, it would be in the low single digits. I personally Chicago is just stutlifyingly boring with real nerdy strivers, where Georgetown has a greater variety of students and is a bit more grounded. (Yes, I have a kid at Georgetown, and didn't think any of this about Georgetown until I learned about it and experienced it). I have a nephew at Chicago and while I know it less well, I think my perception is pretty accurate.

I think your perception is extremely inaccurate.

OP - in what way is this inaccurate? Only thing I don't understand why she says the admit rate for GU is lower than UC?

DP here. Technically, the GU admit rate is higher because they only receive applications from students who really want to attend Georgetown, as they are not on the Common App. Students have to be very serious about applying or they just won't apply. This is the opposite of Chicago who invites multitudes more to apply, many many of them for free, and has an ED option, through which most of its students are admitted. It's true what the poster said, if GU was on the common app, its rate would drop by at least 50% if not more. And that doesn't even account for TO, which GU never moved to.

Still easier to answer a couple of extra questions through the Common App then to do the completely separate GU application. They are old school and invite only those truly interested to apply.

[Anonymous]

If they love econ, isn't this a no brainer? UChicago.

I was a math major there, but my econ friends all were research assistants to either nobel prize winners or bates clark medalists (to be fair, they may not have has the award then, but did eventually win it). A few of them quit the academic track to work in tech/quant finance, but a good chunk are now senior economists or professors. I see their work in the news. Nothing against georgetown overall, but if the goal is to dive deep into econ, Chicago is probably the best place to be an undergrad. (Funnily two of my classmates are econ profs in the area - one at Georgetown and another at Hopkins, i think they went from Uchicago to someplace like MIT or Princeton before becoming profs)

[Anonymous]

Haven't been on this site for a while, dug up this post to follow up! After some debate DC picked Chicago and got in ED. But from what I'm reading I guess everyone hates Chicago now? Oh well. DS seems happy! Is going with 2 other kids he knows well and they are both smart lovely kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Haven't been on this site for a while, dug up this post to follow up! After some debate DC picked Chicago and got in ED. But from what I'm reading I guess everyone hates Chicago now? Oh well. DS seems happy! Is going with 2 other kids he knows well and they are both smart lovely kids.

Congratulations- amazing school. Ignore the haters. Your son will have an incredible experience