Starting to question the high protein hype

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:120g is 1 whole chicken, fine to eat one after leg day but every day for 6 month? How did you stomach that much.

120g of protein is 400g of chicken breast and that can easily be eaten in two meals. But obviously you don't have to eat just chicken. You can do yoghurt, eggs, cottage cheese, fish. Tons of protein dense option with low calorie content. And considering many other foods (bread, legumes, some veggies) contain protein too it all adds up. 120g is very easy to get and stomach. I get that without even trying. It is just a normal way of eating for me. And I still get plenty of carbs and fat too as 120g of protein is only 480 calories.

I’m just curious how many calories you eat ever day. I only eat about 1400 calories a day and there’s no way I could hit 120 g of protein unless it was all I ate. Looking back over my food tracker for the past 4 months, the only says that I even hit over 80 are the days I eat fish, which I probably shouldn’t eat every day.

120g of protein is just 480 calories. Still plenty left for other things even if you just eat 1400, but you should try to eat more. 1400 is very low for an adult.

Ma’am, with all due respect, you need to stop giving nutrition advice. You are what the kids refer to as confidently incorrect.

You sound like a man, full of insults but no real content.
Now tell me, which part is incorrect, the 480 calories? Or eat more than 1400?

No, I sound like an adult woman who eats around 1400 calories a day and who is perfectly aware that a significant number of adult women are some combination of smaller, older, or less active than me.

You, however, sound like an idiot who gets most of her nutrition advice from TikTok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:120g is 1 whole chicken, fine to eat one after leg day but every day for 6 month? How did you stomach that much.

120g of protein is 400g of chicken breast and that can easily be eaten in two meals. But obviously you don't have to eat just chicken. You can do yoghurt, eggs, cottage cheese, fish. Tons of protein dense option with low calorie content. And considering many other foods (bread, legumes, some veggies) contain protein too it all adds up. 120g is very easy to get and stomach. I get that without even trying. It is just a normal way of eating for me. And I still get plenty of carbs and fat too as 120g of protein is only 480 calories.

I’m just curious how many calories you eat ever day. I only eat about 1400 calories a day and there’s no way I could hit 120 g of protein unless it was all I ate. Looking back over my food tracker for the past 4 months, the only says that I even hit over 80 are the days I eat fish, which I probably shouldn’t eat every day.

120g of protein is just 480 calories. Still plenty left for other things even if you just eat 1400, but you should try to eat more. 1400 is very low for an adult.

Ma’am, with all due respect, you need to stop giving nutrition advice. You are what the kids refer to as confidently incorrect.

You sound like a man, full of insults but no real content.
Now tell me, which part is incorrect, the 480 calories? Or eat more than 1400?

No, I sound like an adult woman who eats around 1400 calories a day and who is perfectly aware that a significant number of adult women are some combination of smaller, older, or less active than me.

You, however, sound like an idiot who gets most of her nutrition advice from TikTok.

Ah I see, you are on a low calories diet of course you are always cranky

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:120g is 1 whole chicken, fine to eat one after leg day but every day for 6 month? How did you stomach that much.

120g of protein is 400g of chicken breast and that can easily be eaten in two meals. But obviously you don't have to eat just chicken. You can do yoghurt, eggs, cottage cheese, fish. Tons of protein dense option with low calorie content. And considering many other foods (bread, legumes, some veggies) contain protein too it all adds up. 120g is very easy to get and stomach. I get that without even trying. It is just a normal way of eating for me. And I still get plenty of carbs and fat too as 120g of protein is only 480 calories.

I’m just curious how many calories you eat ever day. I only eat about 1400 calories a day and there’s no way I could hit 120 g of protein unless it was all I ate. Looking back over my food tracker for the past 4 months, the only says that I even hit over 80 are the days I eat fish, which I probably shouldn’t eat every day.

120g of protein is just 480 calories. Still plenty left for other things even if you just eat 1400, but you should try to eat more. 1400 is very low for an adult.

Ma’am, with all due respect, you need to stop giving nutrition advice. You are what the kids refer to as confidently incorrect.

You sound like a man, full of insults but no real content.
Now tell me, which part is incorrect, the 480 calories? Or eat more than 1400?

No, I sound like an adult woman who eats around 1400 calories a day and who is perfectly aware that a significant number of adult women are some combination of smaller, older, or less active than me.

You, however, sound like an idiot who gets most of her nutrition advice from TikTok.

Ah I see, you are on a low calories diet of course you are always cranky

This must be an example of that “real content” you yearn for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People tracking macros and calories and whatnot are so boring. It makes me want to dive facefirst into a large lasagna.

I agree with you, and I’m the OP!

+1

there is no need for the average person, even in cal deficit, to track macros.

The macro all persons should be tracking is FIBER. Most Americans are fiber deficient and a fiber deficient diet is linked to poorer health and earlier death. The body of research is unquestionable.

Get 25-50g of fiber from whole foodstuffs as minimally processed as possible heavy on the beans/legumes and green leafy vegetables and berries every day. Do that and your health will transform, assuming you also ditch the mass quantities of animal protein and the sugar and added sugars in UPFs and also steer clear of seed oils.

I was with you until you uttered the phrase “seed oils.”

Seed oils are very unhealthful compared to much healthier alternatives such as extra virgin olive oil, a fruit oil that is minimally processed. Seed oils are often processed chemically and while in tbr abstract omega 6 fatty acid is good for us, at the current ratio many Americans are consuming it (20:1) relative to omega 3 fatty acid, it it driving chronic inflammation which drives numerous chronic illnesses.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/are-vegetable-and-seed-oils-bad#omega-6

Seed oils in moderation might be okay but most Americans consuming 60-70% of calories from UPFs are also consuming way more than moderate amounts of seed oils because they are present in so many UPFs.

The only seed oil I consume regularly is what is included in my natural peanut butter and is thus minimally processed. I eat plenty of nuts and seeds and just skip the chemical processing bleaching etc. I prefer to cook with evoo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People tracking macros and calories and whatnot are so boring. It makes me want to dive facefirst into a large lasagna.

I agree with you, and I’m the OP!

+1

there is no need for the average person, even in cal deficit, to track macros.

The macro all persons should be tracking is FIBER. Most Americans are fiber deficient and a fiber deficient diet is linked to poorer health and earlier death. The body of research is unquestionable.

Get 25-50g of fiber from whole foodstuffs as minimally processed as possible heavy on the beans/legumes and green leafy vegetables and berries every day. Do that and your health will transform, assuming you also ditch the mass quantities of animal protein and the sugar and added sugars in UPFs and also steer clear of seed oils.

I was with you until you uttered the phrase “seed oils.”

Seed oils are very unhealthful compared to much healthier alternatives such as extra virgin olive oil, a fruit oil that is minimally processed. Seed oils are often processed chemically and while in tbr abstract omega 6 fatty acid is good for us, at the current ratio many Americans are consuming it (20:1) relative to omega 3 fatty acid, it it driving chronic inflammation which drives numerous chronic illnesses.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/are-vegetable-and-seed-oils-bad#omega-6

Seed oils in moderation might be okay but most Americans consuming 60-70% of calories from UPFs are also consuming way more than moderate amounts of seed oils because they are present in so many UPFs.

The only seed oil I consume regularly is what is included in my natural peanut butter and is thus minimally processed. I eat plenty of nuts and seeds and just skip the chemical processing bleaching etc. I prefer to cook with evoo.

You can get natural PB with no oil. I also
Ditched JIF due to the oil in it.

[Anonymous]

If I eat the same things I can get 90-100g/day on about 1500/1600 calories. I’d have to consume a protein shake or other pre made protein product to get 125 or more.

Tracking food and calories makes me depressed and increases my obsession and food disorders I used to struggle with. I tried to track macros for a week and I was obsessing over the olive oil amount I used to sauté my spinach.

Anyway I’ve lost weight without obsessively tracking.

[Anonymous]

I, too think the high protein hype is a fad that will pass. Getting more than 80 grams of protein a day consistenly is not realistic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People tracking macros and calories and whatnot are so boring. It makes me want to dive facefirst into a large lasagna.

I agree with you, and I’m the OP!

+1

there is no need for the average person, even in cal deficit, to track macros.

The macro all persons should be tracking is FIBER. Most Americans are fiber deficient and a fiber deficient diet is linked to poorer health and earlier death. The body of research is unquestionable.

Get 25-50g of fiber from whole foodstuffs as minimally processed as possible heavy on the beans/legumes and green leafy vegetables and berries every day. Do that and your health will transform, assuming you also ditch the mass quantities of animal protein and the sugar and added sugars in UPFs and also steer clear of seed oils.

I was with you until you uttered the phrase “seed oils.”

Seed oils are very unhealthful compared to much healthier alternatives such as extra virgin olive oil, a fruit oil that is minimally processed. Seed oils are often processed chemically and while in tbr abstract omega 6 fatty acid is good for us, at the current ratio many Americans are consuming it (20:1) relative to omega 3 fatty acid, it it driving chronic inflammation which drives numerous chronic illnesses.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/are-vegetable-and-seed-oils-bad#omega-6

Seed oils in moderation might be okay but most Americans consuming 60-70% of calories from UPFs are also consuming way more than moderate amounts of seed oils because they are present in so many UPFs.

The only seed oil I consume regularly is what is included in my natural peanut butter and is thus minimally processed. I eat plenty of nuts and seeds and just skip the chemical processing bleaching etc. I prefer to cook with evoo.

Why does your natural peanut butter have added oil? Mine does not.

Cooking with evoo isn’t wise because it’s not supposed to be heated to high temperatures.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People tracking macros and calories and whatnot are so boring. It makes me want to dive facefirst into a large lasagna.

I agree with you, and I’m the OP!

+1

there is no need for the average person, even in cal deficit, to track macros.

The macro all persons should be tracking is FIBER. Most Americans are fiber deficient and a fiber deficient diet is linked to poorer health and earlier death. The body of research is unquestionable.

Get 25-50g of fiber from whole foodstuffs as minimally processed as possible heavy on the beans/legumes and green leafy vegetables and berries every day. Do that and your health will transform, assuming you also ditch the mass quantities of animal protein and the sugar and added sugars in UPFs and also steer clear of seed oils.

I was with you until you uttered the phrase “seed oils.”

Seed oils are very unhealthful compared to much healthier alternatives such as extra virgin olive oil, a fruit oil that is minimally processed. Seed oils are often processed chemically and while in tbr abstract omega 6 fatty acid is good for us, at the current ratio many Americans are consuming it (20:1) relative to omega 3 fatty acid, it it driving chronic inflammation which drives numerous chronic illnesses.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/are-vegetable-and-seed-oils-bad#omega-6

Seed oils in moderation might be okay but most Americans consuming 60-70% of calories from UPFs are also consuming way more than moderate amounts of seed oils because they are present in so many UPFs.

The only seed oil I consume regularly is what is included in my natural peanut butter and is thus minimally processed. I eat plenty of nuts and seeds and just skip the chemical processing bleaching etc. I prefer to cook with evoo.

Why does your natural peanut butter have added oil? Mine does not.

Cooking with evoo isn’t wise because it’s not supposed to be heated to high temperatures.

What’s better? Avocado?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve been working hard on my diet for a year now. I’ve lost fat and retained muscle by eating 100-120 grams of protein daily and lifting weights. I’m a 130 pound woman. I just got new bloodwork at my annual exam. My LDL cholesterol and BUN/creatinine levels are elevated and my doctor thinks my diet is to blame. So what gives? I thought I was doing all the right things!

Doctors are some of the worst people to consult about proper nutrtion and lifestyle choices.
They make their money by people being unhealthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People tracking macros and calories and whatnot are so boring. It makes me want to dive facefirst into a large lasagna.

I agree with you, and I’m the OP!

+1

there is no need for the average person, even in cal deficit, to track macros.

The macro all persons should be tracking is FIBER. Most Americans are fiber deficient and a fiber deficient diet is linked to poorer health and earlier death. The body of research is unquestionable.

Get 25-50g of fiber from whole foodstuffs as minimally processed as possible heavy on the beans/legumes and green leafy vegetables and berries every day. Do that and your health will transform, assuming you also ditch the mass quantities of animal protein and the sugar and added sugars in UPFs and also steer clear of seed oils.

I was with you until you uttered the phrase “seed oils.”

Seed oils are very unhealthful compared to much healthier alternatives such as extra virgin olive oil, a fruit oil that is minimally processed. Seed oils are often processed chemically and while in tbr abstract omega 6 fatty acid is good for us, at the current ratio many Americans are consuming it (20:1) relative to omega 3 fatty acid, it it driving chronic inflammation which drives numerous chronic illnesses.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/are-vegetable-and-seed-oils-bad#omega-6

Seed oils in moderation might be okay but most Americans consuming 60-70% of calories from UPFs are also consuming way more than moderate amounts of seed oils because they are present in so many UPFs.

The only seed oil I consume regularly is what is included in my natural peanut butter and is thus minimally processed. I eat plenty of nuts and seeds and just skip the chemical processing bleaching etc. I prefer to cook with evoo.

Why does your natural peanut butter have added oil? Mine does not.

Cooking with evoo isn’t wise because it’s not supposed to be heated to high temperatures.

What’s better? Avocado?

I use grapeseed oil but I rarely cook with oil so there you go.

[Anonymous]

I was told when I was pregnant to eat 80-100 g of protein a day and about 60g when not pregnant. No woman needs to consume more than 60-65 g a day unless pregnant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was told when I was pregnant to eat 80-100 g of protein a day and about 60g when not pregnant. No woman needs to consume more than 60-65 g a day unless pregnant.

A pregnant woman doesn't need to consume any extra food the first few months if she has an adequate diet already. A fetus requires very few calories. Gaining more than 10lbs during a preganancy, in addition to the 6-9lb fetus, is simply overeating.

Protein requirements are based upon LMM. The more LMM, the more protein required. Activity as well. Some women require 150 grams of protein or more a day if active.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was told when I was pregnant to eat 80-100 g of protein a day and about 60g when not pregnant. No woman needs to consume more than 60-65 g a day unless pregnant.

A pregnant woman doesn't need to consume any extra food the first few months if she has an adequate diet already. A fetus requires very few calories. Gaining more than 10lbs during a preganancy, in addition to the 6-9lb fetus, is simply overeating.

Protein requirements are based upon LMM. The more LMM, the more protein required. Activity as well. Some women require 150 grams of protein or more a day if active.

What is LMM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I was told when I was pregnant to eat 80-100 g of protein a day and about 60g when not pregnant. No woman needs to consume more than 60-65 g a day unless pregnant.

A pregnant woman doesn't need to consume any extra food the first few months if she has an adequate diet already. A fetus requires very few calories. Gaining more than 10lbs during a preganancy, in addition to the 6-9lb fetus, is simply overeating.

Protein requirements are based upon LMM. The more LMM, the more protein required. Activity as well. Some women require 150 grams of protein or more a day if active.

What is LMM?

I think PP meant LBM or lean body mass. And yes, many women need more than 60g. You can’t ignore size and activity level when determining protein needs.