Killing the Purple Line is the prudent economic decision - despite billions spent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public services are not businesses, they are not meant to make a profit

Exactly. They are jobs programs used to employ those that would be unable to find work in the corporate world due to their incompetence.

???


The are transportation programs to facilitate getting people from one place to another in a clean and cheap manner.

Think if all the cars that won't be using the beltway to get from Prince George's County to Bethesda/NIH etc. and vice versa.

[Anonymous]

I have been driving around / through the construction for so many years. Just finish it already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Bethesda to UMD? We want it. Thousands of college students, university profs and employees are eagerly waiting for it.

Don't be stupid.

oh yes, all those UMD students commuting from downtown Bethesda..

Driving, even with traffic, will be faster

No it won't be - the Purple Line which will have it's own right of way for most of the route will take 9 minutes to go from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

There is no way even at 2AM to cover that distance today in 9 minutes.

Also left out of this discussion is that the project will extend the Capital Crescent Trail (the most used multi-use trail in the country) from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

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All of which will bring more crime to Bethesda.

So you think someone will take a streetcar to bethesda, commit a crime, and then....wait for a streetcar to make off with their bounty?

That is a heck of a racial profiling ask there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Bethesda to UMD? We want it. Thousands of college students, university profs and employees are eagerly waiting for it.

Don't be stupid.

oh yes, all those UMD students commuting from downtown Bethesda..

Driving, even with traffic, will be faster

No it won't be - the Purple Line which will have it's own right of way for most of the route will take 9 minutes to go from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

There is no way even at 2AM to cover that distance today in 9 minutes.

Also left out of this discussion is that the project will extend the Capital Crescent Trail (the most used multi-use trail in the country) from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

.

All of which will bring more crime to Bethesda.

So you think someone will take a streetcar to bethesda, commit a crime, and then....wait for a streetcar to make off with their bounty?

That is a heck of a racial profiling ask there.

The purple line is a subway not a streetcar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Bethesda to UMD? We want it. Thousands of college students, university profs and employees are eagerly waiting for it.

Don't be stupid.

oh yes, all those UMD students commuting from downtown Bethesda..

Driving, even with traffic, will be faster

No it won't be - the Purple Line which will have it's own right of way for most of the route will take 9 minutes to go from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

There is no way even at 2AM to cover that distance today in 9 minutes.

Also left out of this discussion is that the project will extend the Capital Crescent Trail (the most used multi-use trail in the country) from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

.

All of which will bring more crime to Bethesda.

So you think someone will take a streetcar to bethesda, commit a crime, and then....wait for a streetcar to make off with their bounty?

That is a heck of a racial profiling ask there.

The purple line is a subway not a streetcar.

Light rail, not subway not streetcar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Bethesda to UMD? We want it. Thousands of college students, university profs and employees are eagerly waiting for it.

Don't be stupid.

oh yes, all those UMD students commuting from downtown Bethesda..

Driving, even with traffic, will be faster

No it won't be - the Purple Line which will have it's own right of way for most of the route will take 9 minutes to go from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

There is no way even at 2AM to cover that distance today in 9 minutes.

Also left out of this discussion is that the project will extend the Capital Crescent Trail (the most used multi-use trail in the country) from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

.

All of which will bring more crime to Bethesda.

So you think someone will take a streetcar to bethesda, commit a crime, and then....wait for a streetcar to make off with their bounty?

That is a heck of a racial profiling ask there.

The purple line is a subway not a streetcar.

Light rail, not subway not streetcar

Irrelevant semantic distinctions.

Light rail and streetcar in essence are the same thing.

And since the Purple Line actually goes underground (briefly) in both Bethesda and Silver Spring it technically is also a subway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The is a complete waste of money and it will bankrupt MD. Virginia is not not stupid enough to subsidize this mistake. We will not contribute extra to cover the fiscal shortfall from Marylands irresponsible financial decisions. There is no political will to bail out MD here, so good luck everyone else.

Ummm Virginia just spent even more more money extending Metrorail out to Dulles and Alexandria just spent another $450 million on an infill Metro station.

Virginia spent money on extending Metrorail to connect quickly growing job centers to transit. They’ll easily get a return on the investment. What quickly growing job centers is the Purple Line connecting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Bethesda to UMD? We want it. Thousands of college students, university profs and employees are eagerly waiting for it.

Don't be stupid.

oh yes, all those UMD students commuting from downtown Bethesda..

Driving, even with traffic, will be faster

No it won't be - the Purple Line which will have it's own right of way for most of the route will take 9 minutes to go from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

There is no way even at 2AM to cover that distance today in 9 minutes.

Also left out of this discussion is that the project will extend the Capital Crescent Trail (the most used multi-use trail in the country) from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

.

All of which will bring more crime to Bethesda.

So you think someone will take a streetcar to bethesda, commit a crime, and then....wait for a streetcar to make off with their bounty?

That is a heck of a racial profiling ask there.

It happens more than you think along the Metro. Criminals have even rolled shopping carts full on stolen goods to the Metro elevator from the DC Target on Connecticut Ave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The is a complete waste of money and it will bankrupt MD. Virginia is not not stupid enough to subsidize this mistake. We will not contribute extra to cover the fiscal shortfall from Marylands irresponsible financial decisions. There is no political will to bail out MD here, so good luck everyone else.

Ummm Virginia just spent even more more money extending Metrorail out to Dulles and Alexandria just spent another $450 million on an infill Metro station.

Virginia spent money on extending Metrorail to connect quickly growing job centers to transit. They’ll easily get a return on the investment. What quickly growing job centers is the Purple Line connecting?

The Chevy Chase Lake Towne Centre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The is a complete waste of money and it will bankrupt MD. Virginia is not not stupid enough to subsidize this mistake. We will not contribute extra to cover the fiscal shortfall from Marylands irresponsible financial decisions. There is no political will to bail out MD here, so good luck everyone else.

Ummm Virginia just spent even more more money extending Metrorail out to Dulles and Alexandria just spent another $450 million on an infill Metro station.

Virginia spent money on extending Metrorail to connect quickly growing job centers to transit. They’ll easily get a return on the investment. What quickly growing job centers is the Purple Line connecting?

There are many lower income residents of PG County that work in Montgomery COunty where they cannot afford to live. You will have store clerks, home and office cleaners, barristas, fast food employees, gas station attendants and many other hourly employees who cannot afford to live in Montgomery County, now able to live in less expensive areas and commute to work.

You will also have employees and students at UMD, National Archives, FDA, NASA, New Carrolton Federal Building (mostly Treasury employees), Dept of Agriculture commuting Eastbound.

Right now, to travel from one county to the other on public transit, the have to take very time consuming busses (and many bus routes have been cut in the last 3 years) or take Metro downtown. You need green/yellow line in PG county and Red line in Montgomery County. Either way public transit currently takes 2-3 times longer than it will take via Purple line when the route is complete. Also, the Purple line will reduce congestion on the Beltway during typical rush hours as there will be some that take the Purple line instead of having to drive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The is a complete waste of money and it will bankrupt MD. Virginia is not not stupid enough to subsidize this mistake. We will not contribute extra to cover the fiscal shortfall from Marylands irresponsible financial decisions. There is no political will to bail out MD here, so good luck everyone else.

Ummm Virginia just spent even more more money extending Metrorail out to Dulles and Alexandria just spent another $450 million on an infill Metro station.

Virginia spent money on extending Metrorail to connect quickly growing job centers to transit. They’ll easily get a return on the investment. What quickly growing job centers is the Purple Line connecting?

Really - do you not live in lower Montgomery County?

Bethesda in fact is rapidly densifying as is Silver Spring and College Park is also a significant economic hub in the state and all 3 are drowning in cars and congestion even post Covid.

What is laughable is that elsewhere in this thread someone complained about Chevy Chase Land company making money - well guess what - Chevy Chase land company building lots of new multi-unit housing generates lots of tax revenue for the county and state and since folks in multi-unit buildings tend to have few kids they pay more in taxes than they receive in services.

So yeah Maryland and MoCo are in fact getting a return on this investment - please go check out what has already been built adjacent to the PL in Bethesda and at Chevy Chase Lake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The is a complete waste of money and it will bankrupt MD. Virginia is not not stupid enough to subsidize this mistake. We will not contribute extra to cover the fiscal shortfall from Marylands irresponsible financial decisions. There is no political will to bail out MD here, so good luck everyone else.

Ummm Virginia just spent even more more money extending Metrorail out to Dulles and Alexandria just spent another $450 million on an infill Metro station.

Virginia spent money on extending Metrorail to connect quickly growing job centers to transit. They’ll easily get a return on the investment. What quickly growing job centers is the Purple Line connecting?

Really - do you not live in lower Montgomery County?

Bethesda in fact is rapidly densifying as is Silver Spring and College Park is also a significant economic hub in the state and all 3 are drowning in cars and congestion even post Covid.

What is laughable is that elsewhere in this thread someone complained about Chevy Chase Land company making money - well guess what - Chevy Chase land company building lots of new multi-unit housing generates lots of tax revenue for the county and state and since folks in multi-unit buildings tend to have few kids they pay more in taxes than they receive in services.

So yeah Maryland and MoCo are in fact getting a return on this investment - please go check out what has already been built adjacent to the PL in Bethesda and at Chevy Chase Lake.

Chevy Chase Land Co. was once a prolific enforcer of exclusionary racial covenants. The developer has a checkered history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Bethesda to UMD? We want it. Thousands of college students, university profs and employees are eagerly waiting for it.

Don't be stupid.

oh yes, all those UMD students commuting from downtown Bethesda..

Driving, even with traffic, will be faster

No it won't be - the Purple Line which will have it's own right of way for most of the route will take 9 minutes to go from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

There is no way even at 2AM to cover that distance today in 9 minutes.

Also left out of this discussion is that the project will extend the Capital Crescent Trail (the most used multi-use trail in the country) from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

.

All of which will bring more crime to Bethesda.

So you think someone will take a streetcar to bethesda, commit a crime, and then....wait for a streetcar to make off with their bounty?

That is a heck of a racial profiling ask there.

It happens more than you think along the Metro. Criminals have even rolled shopping carts full on stolen goods to the Metro elevator from the DC Target on Connecticut Ave.

Buddy, I’m gonna blow your mind: criminals can drive cars too! In fact, you may not have paid attention, but car jacking has been a thing in the District in the last 3 years. Public transportation is not the only way people can commit crimes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public services are not businesses, they are not meant to make a profit

Exactly. They are jobs programs used to employ those that would be unable to find work in the corporate world due to their incompetence.

???


The are transportation programs to facilitate getting people from one place to another in a clean and cheap manner.

Think if all the cars that won't be using the beltway to get from Prince George's County to Bethesda/NIH etc. and vice versa.

$25 per trip is not cheap and a bus only transit system would be much less expensive than this metro boondoggle.

[Anonymous]

Too bad..Chevy Chase can suck on a big fat purple choad. It's coming.