Killing the Purple Line is the prudent economic decision - despite billions spent

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Anonymous wrote:Just fire all of the employees and hire non union workers. Pension liabilities and outrageous salaries are killing the metro.

Metro workers get paid way, wayyy too much.. Those clowns in the booths are do nothing lazy bums who allow fare evasion. They act so onery and pissed off whenever you simply ask them for help because they might have to stop using their phones for 2 minutes. They get paid way too much money to do nothing. Fire them all and save the metro.

They contracted out bus operations from one of the bus garages to a private company. It didn’t go so well. Our area is liberal and pro union. Wmata management are not miracle workers.

This area is not alone in out-of-control government spending. At some point people will realize the impact it has on housing affordability.

The area is out of control in wealthy litigants that make the cost of everything development-related skyrocket. Too many lawyers, too much money going to law firms to fight things. People have too many rights and too muc bc ability to give “input”

People think it's racism that public projects run through minority neighborhoods. It's simply because those neighborhoods don't have expensive legal representation to stop "things I don't like."

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Anonymous wrote:Just fire all of the employees and hire non union workers. Pension liabilities and outrageous salaries are killing the metro.

Metro workers get paid way, wayyy too much.. Those clowns in the booths are do nothing lazy bums who allow fare evasion. They act so onery and pissed off whenever you simply ask them for help because they might have to stop using their phones for 2 minutes. They get paid way too much money to do nothing. Fire them all and save the metro.

They contracted out bus operations from one of the bus garages to a private company. It didn’t go so well. Our area is liberal and pro union. Wmata management are not miracle workers.

This area is not alone in out-of-control government spending. At some point people will realize the impact it has on housing affordability.

The area is out of control in wealthy litigants that make the cost of everything development-related skyrocket. Too many lawyers, too much money going to law firms to fight things. People have too many rights and too muc bc ability to give “input”

People think it's racism that public projects run through minority neighborhoods. It's simply because those neighborhoods don't have expensive legal representation to stop "things I don't like."

And why do these neighborhoods not have that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just fire all of the employees and hire non union workers. Pension liabilities and outrageous salaries are killing the metro.

Metro workers get paid way, wayyy too much.. Those clowns in the booths are do nothing lazy bums who allow fare evasion. They act so onery and pissed off whenever you simply ask them for help because they might have to stop using their phones for 2 minutes. They get paid way too much money to do nothing. Fire them all and save the metro.

They contracted out bus operations from one of the bus garages to a private company. It didn’t go so well. Our area is liberal and pro union. Wmata management are not miracle workers.

This area is not alone in out-of-control government spending. At some point people will realize the impact it has on housing affordability.

The area is out of control in wealthy litigants that make the cost of everything development-related skyrocket. Too many lawyers, too much money going to law firms to fight things. People have too many rights and too muc bc ability to give “input”

Agreed! Infrastructure work gets done quick and cheap in China because people don’t have rights. The US is the most expensive country in the world to do infrastructure projects - it’s the far extreme because everyone gets a say. A middle path is better but how to get there in our country - is it possible?

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Anonymous wrote:Just fire all of the employees and hire non union workers. Pension liabilities and outrageous salaries are killing the metro.

Metro workers get paid way, wayyy too much.. Those clowns in the booths are do nothing lazy bums who allow fare evasion. They act so onery and pissed off whenever you simply ask them for help because they might have to stop using their phones for 2 minutes. They get paid way too much money to do nothing. Fire them all and save the metro.

They contracted out bus operations from one of the bus garages to a private company. It didn’t go so well. Our area is liberal and pro union. Wmata management are not miracle workers.

This area is not alone in out-of-control government spending. At some point people will realize the impact it has on housing affordability.

The area is out of control in wealthy litigants that make the cost of everything development-related skyrocket. Too many lawyers, too much money going to law firms to fight things. People have too many rights and too muc bc ability to give “input”

Agreed! Infrastructure work gets done quick and cheap in China because people don’t have rights. The US is the most expensive country in the world to do infrastructure projects - it’s the far extreme because everyone gets a say. A middle path is better but how to get there in our country - is it possible?

It's not true that everyone gets a say. The wealthy and well-connected get a say.

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Anonymous wrote:Just fire all of the employees and hire non union workers. Pension liabilities and outrageous salaries are killing the metro.

Metro workers get paid way, wayyy too much.. Those clowns in the booths are do nothing lazy bums who allow fare evasion. They act so onery and pissed off whenever you simply ask them for help because they might have to stop using their phones for 2 minutes. They get paid way too much money to do nothing. Fire them all and save the metro.

They contracted out bus operations from one of the bus garages to a private company. It didn’t go so well. Our area is liberal and pro union. Wmata management are not miracle workers.

This area is not alone in out-of-control government spending. At some point people will realize the impact it has on housing affordability.

The area is out of control in wealthy litigants that make the cost of everything development-related skyrocket. Too many lawyers, too much money going to law firms to fight things. People have too many rights and too muc bc ability to give “input”

Interesting then that the big, expensive real estate development law firms are among Greater Greater Washington’s biggest funders (along with the Chevy Chase Land Co with its history of racial covenants).

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Anonymous wrote:OP you don’t have basic facts. The Purple Line isn’t a Wmata project. It’s an MDOT project.

Wmata doesn’t have any light rail.

You shouldn’t be posting on a subject you’re too lazy to do a basic google search on.

If WMATA has no light rail, who runs that total waste of money light rail on H St NE in the heart of DC?

DDOT

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Anonymous wrote:OP you don’t have basic facts. The Purple Line isn’t a Wmata project. It’s an MDOT project.

Wmata doesn’t have any light rail.

You shouldn’t be posting on a subject you’re too lazy to do a basic google search on.

If WMATA has no light rail, who runs that total waste of money light rail on H St NE in the heart of DC?

DDOT

What a waste of money that light rail POS has been in DC. Suspect Purple Line will be an even bigger waste.

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Anonymous wrote:Just fire all of the employees and hire non union workers. Pension liabilities and outrageous salaries are killing the metro.

Metro workers get paid way, wayyy too much.. Those clowns in the booths are do nothing lazy bums who allow fare evasion. They act so onery and pissed off whenever you simply ask them for help because they might have to stop using their phones for 2 minutes. They get paid way too much money to do nothing. Fire them all and save the metro.

They contracted out bus operations from one of the bus garages to a private company. It didn’t go so well. Our area is liberal and pro union. Wmata management are not miracle workers.

This area is not alone in out-of-control government spending. At some point people will realize the impact it has on housing affordability.

The area is out of control in wealthy litigants that make the cost of everything development-related skyrocket. Too many lawyers, too much money going to law firms to fight things. People have too many rights and too muc bc ability to give “input”

This is the face of fascism. Lie down and do exactly what your government tells you to do without question or challenge. Screw you.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you kidding? Bethesda to UMD? We want it. Thousands of college students, university profs and employees are eagerly waiting for it.

Don't be stupid.

oh yes, all those UMD students commuting from downtown Bethesda..

Driving, even with traffic, will be faster

No it won't be - the Purple Line which will have it's own right of way for most of the route will take 9 minutes to go from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

There is no way even at 2AM to cover that distance today in 9 minutes.

Also left out of this discussion is that the project will extend the Capital Crescent Trail (the most used multi-use trail in the country) from Bethesda to Silver Spring.

You won't be taking metro at 2AM either. And while it might take 9 minutes, the trains don't run every minute.

Expected headways are 7.5 minutes during rush hour and 10 minutes the rest of the time.

Can you currently get from Bethesda to Silver Spring in 20 minutes using any other form or transportation at any time of day?

Yes. East-West Highway.

Not when there are lots of other people trying to do the same thing in their cars at the same time as you in your car. Plus unfortunately the people who are in buses get stuck amongst the people who are in cars. One bus full of people, surrounded by lots of cars, each with 1 person. I am thrilled about the Purple Line (9 minutes between Bethesda and Silver Spring) and also about the Capital Crescent Trail.

I'm on that road almost every day. None of those issues occur. I also support the purple line.

You are saying that East-West Highway between Silver Spring and Bethesda is never gridlocked?

There's a problem getting onto E-W in Bethesda because of the ridiculous decision to get rid of an entrance lane and in Takoma Park where it's a single lane but otherwise it is suprisingly and consistently free flowing. I've also never seen buses stuck.

I find the desire to exaggerate and exacerbate traffic issues wrongheaded and short sighted.

The purple line is a good idea and should have been done decades ago. The lack of east west mass transit routes in MD (and VA) is the major problem with our subway system. Buses are not the same.

I live off of EWH between Silver Spring and Bethesda. It is crowded every morning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just fire all of the employees and hire non union workers. Pension liabilities and outrageous salaries are killing the metro.

Metro workers get paid way, wayyy too much.. Those clowns in the booths are do nothing lazy bums who allow fare evasion. They act so onery and pissed off whenever you simply ask them for help because they might have to stop using their phones for 2 minutes. They get paid way too much money to do nothing. Fire them all and save the metro.

They contracted out bus operations from one of the bus garages to a private company. It didn’t go so well. Our area is liberal and pro union. Wmata management are not miracle workers.

This area is not alone in out-of-control government spending. At some point people will realize the impact it has on housing affordability.

The area is out of control in wealthy litigants that make the cost of everything development-related skyrocket. Too many lawyers, too much money going to law firms to fight things. People have too many rights and too muc bc ability to give “input”

This is the face of fascism. Lie down and do exactly what your government tells you to do without question or challenge. Screw you.

The face of fascism is when you have your shed on county property and you don't want to move it so you file an adverse possession claim. https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/md-court-of-appeals/1723766.html

The face of fascism is when you get your municipality to pay an expert to go look for an endangered species, but the expert doesn't find any, but you file a lawsuit anyway, which you can do because you're your own lawyer. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2014/11/06/chevy-chase-approves-25000-to-search-for-endangered-species-dna-near-purple-line/

The face of fascism is when the judge in the lawsuit, who should have recused himself, delays issuing a final ruling for over a year, because without any final ruling, there can't be any appeal of the final ruling. https://wtop.com/maryland/2017/05/purple-line-judge-issues-his-final-ruling-on-light-rail-project/

No, wait, that's not the face of fascism, that's the face of well-connected people who think they shouldn't have to accept no for an answer. It turns out they did have to accept no for an answer. Unfortunately we're all on the hook for the additional costs and delays caused by their actions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just fire all of the employees and hire non union workers. Pension liabilities and outrageous salaries are killing the metro.

Metro workers get paid way, wayyy too much.. Those clowns in the booths are do nothing lazy bums who allow fare evasion. They act so onery and pissed off whenever you simply ask them for help because they might have to stop using their phones for 2 minutes. They get paid way too much money to do nothing. Fire them all and save the metro.

They contracted out bus operations from one of the bus garages to a private company. It didn’t go so well. Our area is liberal and pro union. Wmata management are not miracle workers.

This area is not alone in out-of-control government spending. At some point people will realize the impact it has on housing affordability.

The area is out of control in wealthy litigants that make the cost of everything development-related skyrocket. Too many lawyers, too much money going to law firms to fight things. People have too many rights and too muc bc ability to give “input”

Interesting then that the big, expensive real estate development law firms are among Greater Greater Washington’s biggest funders (along with the Chevy Chase Land Co with its history of racial covenants).

Could you please explain what is interesting about this?

[Anonymous]

May not be exactly be fascism but the development lobby (which backed the Purple Line to unlock properties for big projects) seems to have harnessed pro-transit “progressives” as the useful idiots of property rights Libertarians and grifting Trumpers.

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Anonymous wrote:May not be exactly be fascism but the development lobby (which backed the Purple Line to unlock properties for big projects) seems to have harnessed pro-transit “progressives” as the useful idiots of property rights Libertarians and grifting Trumpers.

You are truly smooth-brained. There are no Trumpers in Chevy Chase save for the political appointees. And why are you against property rights? It’s the most American thing ever.

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Anonymous wrote:May not be exactly be fascism but the development lobby (which backed the Purple Line to unlock properties for big projects) seems to have harnessed pro-transit “progressives” as the useful idiots of property rights Libertarians and grifting Trumpers.

Don't be silly, the Trumpers oppose the Purple Line. And they also oppose federal funding of transit. The Libertarians also aren't fans.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just fire all of the employees and hire non union workers. Pension liabilities and outrageous salaries are killing the metro.

Metro workers get paid way, wayyy too much.. Those clowns in the booths are do nothing lazy bums who allow fare evasion. They act so onery and pissed off whenever you simply ask them for help because they might have to stop using their phones for 2 minutes. They get paid way too much money to do nothing. Fire them all and save the metro.

They contracted out bus operations from one of the bus garages to a private company. It didn’t go so well. Our area is liberal and pro union. Wmata management are not miracle workers.

This area is not alone in out-of-control government spending. At some point people will realize the impact it has on housing affordability.

The area is out of control in wealthy litigants that make the cost of everything development-related skyrocket. Too many lawyers, too much money going to law firms to fight things. People have too many rights and too muc bc ability to give “input”

Here it is folks, your local YIMBY checking in. Residents have too much say in what happens in the county.

Well, unless you agree with them, then the residents are just “activists.”