Locals squirt tourists w/ water guns: Barcelona mass tourism protests

[Anonymous]

Just go to Madrid. It's better anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:We have a little weekend house on the Shenandoah River. It's a small community of homes -- maybe just shy of 100, not all of them river front (most not river front). Unsurprisingly, several river front properties have been purchased and turned into AirBnbs fairly recently. A couple of homes were even built, brand new, as AirBnbs. I think in the last 5 years or so.

I actually worry about the folks who live there year-round doing something drastic (maybe even violent). The resentment has been brewing for years and is really bad at this point. The big complaint is speeding (our roads are gravel, speed limit is 15, and people have kids and pets out playing), but there is simmering class tension at the root of it. I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that rage is building regarding the Airbnbs.

So this does not surprise me. Airbnbs are stressing communities all over the world.

If there is any class tension rage building, your little non-primary residence is right in the bulls eye of it. You think you are better than people who can only afford to spend a few nights in your paradise, but you are not.

We have owned our house there for over 30 years. My DH is on the board of the HOA (which does nothing but road upkeep). We know almost everyone, and were up there for a week last week dog sitting for a neighbor whose spouse had a stroke. We have done volunteer hard labor on the roads when they needed work and the coffers were running dry. We are part of the community, contribute to it more than most, and have do so for decades.

Not the same thing as the exploitive Airbnb situation at all. So take your assumptions and ignorant aggression elsewhere.

DP. This self-righteous post does not actually respond to the good point unpacking what you even mean by “class tensions”? Okay, so you (or your DH it sounds like) is a good noble aristocrat and how dare people visit his kingdom?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If hotels would make more comfortable options for a family of four without having to get two rooms, I would absolutely use them over Airbnbs. But it almost always makes more sense cost wise for us to do an Airbnb, which gives us extra money to spend throughout the city on other stuff.

Way to prioritize your pocketbook over the far more critical housing rights of locals.

What else do you expect people to do?

They expect you to not travel to places where you cannot afford to stay in however many hotel rooms needed for your family.

Hotels failed to offer the product so a competitor moved in.

That's basic economics.

Some selfish tourists prioritize the ridiculous need for extra space and a kitchen over the far more important housing needs of locals.

Do you stay in a hostel?

If not, why are so selfish to think you need your own room.

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Anonymous wrote:The logical conclusion of the argument is to ban all second homes and timeshares.

Actually ban home ownership. Some people put parts of their own homes on air and b and b. Or list their homes when they are being a tourist elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why locals assaulting tourists and harassing them is a good thing, especially since all these people are doing here in the reel is supporting local businesses, and the locals have no clue if they are staying at an air bnb or hotel...I personally stayed at a hotel in Barcelona and would have been pretty pissed off if people did this to me.

I’m the op and I agree. It speaks volumes about the locals. Imagine if we did that to tourists in DC?

“Walk on the left, stand still on the right!!!” Squirt squirt squirt

Now imagine if you couldn't find a place to live in your hometown because all the local housing stock was short term rentals going to tourists. Squirt squirt indeed.

Why do you think NYC moved to ban Air BnB?

And? How many apartments do you think suddenly became available for the locals?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why locals assaulting tourists and harassing them is a good thing, especially since all these people are doing here in the reel is supporting local businesses, and the locals have no clue if they are staying at an air bnb or hotel...I personally stayed at a hotel in Barcelona and would have been pretty pissed off if people did this to me.

I’m the op and I agree. It speaks volumes about the locals. Imagine if we did that to tourists in DC?

“Walk on the left, stand still on the right!!!” Squirt squirt squirt

Now imagine if you couldn't find a place to live in your hometown because all the local housing stock was short term rentals going to tourists. Squirt squirt indeed.

Why do you think NYC moved to ban Air BnB?

And? How many apartments do you think suddenly became available for the locals?

It hasn’t been in effect for a year. Get back to me in 5 years and see what happened.

[Anonymous]

These quacks are from the same line as the activist who are spray painting monuments and throwing oil at paintings.

[Anonymous]

No one wants Barcelona to turn into Venice. They should start requiring tourist visas and capping them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean if some bish squirted me, she would regret it. I don’t play. She’d at the very least have a torn ACL and maybe a fractured skull.

And you'd be imprisoned in a foreign country. Enjoy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a little weekend house on the Shenandoah River. It's a small community of homes -- maybe just shy of 100, not all of them river front (most not river front). Unsurprisingly, several river front properties have been purchased and turned into AirBnbs fairly recently. A couple of homes were even built, brand new, as AirBnbs. I think in the last 5 years or so.

I actually worry about the folks who live there year-round doing something drastic (maybe even violent). The resentment has been brewing for years and is really bad at this point. The big complaint is speeding (our roads are gravel, speed limit is 15, and people have kids and pets out playing), but there is simmering class tension at the root of it. I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that rage is building regarding the Airbnbs.

So this does not surprise me. Airbnbs are stressing communities all over the world.

If there is any class tension rage building, your little non-primary residence is right in the bulls eye of it. You think you are better than people who can only afford to spend a few nights in your paradise, but you are not.

We have owned our house there for over 30 years. My DH is on the board of the HOA (which does nothing but road upkeep). We know almost everyone, and were up there for a week last week dog sitting for a neighbor whose spouse had a stroke. We have done volunteer hard labor on the roads when they needed work and the coffers were running dry. We are part of the community, contribute to it more than most, and have do so for decades.

Not the same thing as the exploitive Airbnb situation at all. So take your assumptions and ignorant aggression elsewhere.

DP. This self-righteous post does not actually respond to the good point unpacking what you even mean by “class tensions”? Okay, so you (or your DH it sounds like) is a good noble aristocrat and how dare people visit his kingdom?

Yeah, if you want to call a literal hunting/fishing shack purchased 30 years ago a kingdom. We are not rich people.

The class tensions are pretty clear in the Airbnb debate. Anyone commenting on a thread about what happened in Spain should have a modicum of understanding of such things or sit down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why locals assaulting tourists and harassing them is a good thing, especially since all these people are doing here in the reel is supporting local businesses, and the locals have no clue if they are staying at an air bnb or hotel...I personally stayed at a hotel in Barcelona and would have been pretty pissed off if people did this to me.

I’m the op and I agree. It speaks volumes about the locals. Imagine if we did that to tourists in DC?

“Walk on the left, stand still on the right!!!” Squirt squirt squirt

Now imagine if you couldn't find a place to live in your hometown because all the local housing stock was short term rentals going to tourists. Squirt squirt indeed.

Why do you think NYC moved to ban Air BnB?

And? How many apartments do you think suddenly became available for the locals?

It hasn’t been in effect for a year. Get back to me in 5 years and see what happened.

I’ll tell you what happened. In my neighborhood, all those AirB&B places were accessory units which people had no intentions to rent out full time. So they are not renting them at all or offer them from time to time to clearly temporary situations- friends’ kids interning for summer, locally through the word of mouth for visiting relatives, etc. The rumors of the whole buildings converted to illegal hotels were grossly overblown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If hotels would make more comfortable options for a family of four without having to get two rooms, I would absolutely use them over Airbnbs. But it almost always makes more sense cost wise for us to do an Airbnb, which gives us extra money to spend throughout the city on other stuff.

This argument comes up on every thread about traveling abroad/use of Air BnBs. And no one ever has an answer to how do locals travel across Europe. They must be renting Air BnBs too to travel with children, right?

Read the reviews of any place in Europe on Airbnb—you will see most of them are written by…surprise! Other Europeans!

Of course they are. Because unlike most snobs here in DCUM, that love to sh!t on Americans, all walks of life use AirBnb, not just the bottom dwelling low income housing killer that is the evil empire known as America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a little weekend house on the Shenandoah River. It's a small community of homes -- maybe just shy of 100, not all of them river front (most not river front). Unsurprisingly, several river front properties have been purchased and turned into AirBnbs fairly recently. A couple of homes were even built, brand new, as AirBnbs. I think in the last 5 years or so.

I actually worry about the folks who live there year-round doing something drastic (maybe even violent). The resentment has been brewing for years and is really bad at this point. The big complaint is speeding (our roads are gravel, speed limit is 15, and people have kids and pets out playing), but there is simmering class tension at the root of it. I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that rage is building regarding the Airbnbs.

So this does not surprise me. Airbnbs are stressing communities all over the world.

If there is any class tension rage building, your little non-primary residence is right in the bulls eye of it. You think you are better than people who can only afford to spend a few nights in your paradise, but you are not.

We have owned our house there for over 30 years. My DH is on the board of the HOA (which does nothing but road upkeep). We know almost everyone, and were up there for a week last week dog sitting for a neighbor whose spouse had a stroke. We have done volunteer hard labor on the roads when they needed work and the coffers were running dry. We are part of the community, contribute to it more than most, and have do so for decades.

Not the same thing as the exploitive Airbnb situation at all. So take your assumptions and ignorant aggression elsewhere.

DP. This self-righteous post does not actually respond to the good point unpacking what you even mean by “class tensions”? Okay, so you (or your DH it sounds like) is a good noble aristocrat and how dare people visit his kingdom?

Yeah, if you want to call a literal hunting/fishing shack purchased 30 years ago a kingdom. We are not rich people.

The class tensions are pretty clear in the Airbnb debate. Anyone commenting on a thread about what happened in Spain should have a modicum of understanding of such things or sit down.

Not everyone was so lucky as to purchase a vacation home 30 years ago and now be sitting on huge equity so keep your self-delusion that you are salt of the earth in check please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure why locals assaulting tourists and harassing them is a good thing, especially since all these people are doing here in the reel is supporting local businesses, and the locals have no clue if they are staying at an air bnb or hotel...I personally stayed at a hotel in Barcelona and would have been pretty pissed off if people did this to me.

I’m the op and I agree. It speaks volumes about the locals. Imagine if we did that to tourists in DC?

“Walk on the left, stand still on the right!!!” Squirt squirt squirt

Now imagine if you couldn't find a place to live in your hometown because all the local housing stock was short term rentals going to tourists. Squirt squirt indeed.

Why do you think NYC moved to ban Air BnB?

And? How many apartments do you think suddenly became available for the locals?

It hasn’t been in effect for a year. Get back to me in 5 years and see what happened.

I’ll tell you what happened. In my neighborhood, all those AirB&B places were accessory units which people had no intentions to rent out full time. So they are not renting them at all or offer them from time to time to clearly temporary situations- friends’ kids interning for summer, locally through the word of mouth for visiting relatives, etc. The rumors of the whole buildings converted to illegal hotels were grossly overblown.

This would be very few units in NYC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have a little weekend house on the Shenandoah River. It's a small community of homes -- maybe just shy of 100, not all of them river front (most not river front). Unsurprisingly, several river front properties have been purchased and turned into AirBnbs fairly recently. A couple of homes were even built, brand new, as AirBnbs. I think in the last 5 years or so.

I actually worry about the folks who live there year-round doing something drastic (maybe even violent). The resentment has been brewing for years and is really bad at this point. The big complaint is speeding (our roads are gravel, speed limit is 15, and people have kids and pets out playing), but there is simmering class tension at the root of it. I don't think it is an exaggeration to say that rage is building regarding the Airbnbs.

So this does not surprise me. Airbnbs are stressing communities all over the world.

If there is any class tension rage building, your little non-primary residence is right in the bulls eye of it. You think you are better than people who can only afford to spend a few nights in your paradise, but you are not.

We have owned our house there for over 30 years. My DH is on the board of the HOA (which does nothing but road upkeep). We know almost everyone, and were up there for a week last week dog sitting for a neighbor whose spouse had a stroke. We have done volunteer hard labor on the roads when they needed work and the coffers were running dry. We are part of the community, contribute to it more than most, and have do so for decades.

Not the same thing as the exploitive Airbnb situation at all. So take your assumptions and ignorant aggression elsewhere.

DP. This self-righteous post does not actually respond to the good point unpacking what you even mean by “class tensions”? Okay, so you (or your DH it sounds like) is a good noble aristocrat and how dare people visit his kingdom?

Yeah, if you want to call a literal hunting/fishing shack purchased 30 years ago a kingdom. We are not rich people.

The class tensions are pretty clear in the Airbnb debate. Anyone commenting on a thread about what happened in Spain should have a modicum of understanding of such things or sit down.

Exactly. What’s a shack for you, could be an actual home for the local.