SCOTUS allows for homeless encampments to be removed

[Anonymous]

Send them to the grifting megapastors. They have huge churches to house them in.

[Anonymous]

Has anyone posting on this thread even actually been homeless for an extended period of time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone posting on this thread even actually been homeless for an extended period of time?

Many people on this thread have had close contact with tent encampments for an extended length of time.

They are bad for everyone, unhoused and housed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone posting on this thread even actually been homeless for an extended period of time?

Many people on this thread have had close contact with tent encampments for an extended length of time.

They are bad for everyone, unhoused and housed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:There are people commenting on this thread from a place of privilege, who have no idea how shelters, urban policy etc work.

So heartless. I hope you NEVER have to experience homelessness.

They think they're insulated from this. It's that old cliche poem over and over again first they came for the homeless, and I did nothing. They forget how the poem ends. We are sleepwalking into something very bad.

The rhetoric against migrants, against trans people, against homeless people is scary. They are slowly criminalizing it all. Meaning they will round up and "detain" them. Forcing them to work for free in the cages and camps you all let them build at the border.

Once they're done with the migrants, trans people, homeless people, who the hell do you think is next?

The 1930's are repeating themselves before our eyes and you morons either can't see it, or you secretly want it.

You need to open your eyes. There’s no infinite source of money. You can’t open the borders to everyone and also house them and also have the money for citizens to have shelters too.

No YOU need to open your eyes. Money isn't real. We have the literal resources to do whatever we need. We do not have the WILL because we allow money, which again is NOT REAL, and the profit motive to justify so much land and literal usable houses to sit empty while desperate people live on the streets.

We have enough of everything we need as a country. We have the housing. We have the land. We have the food.

People go without because we choose to make money more important.

Money isn't real.

Resources are finite and economic incentives matter. You are living in a an imaginary world where competing priorities don’t exist. Yes money is technically “not real”, but there is a finite supply of labor, natural resources and time. Magical beliefs will not help solve problems

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok so when there are homeless people and they can't be on public space and there are no homeless shelters, where do you expect "them" to go?

They can go to shelters. Or if they refuse, then they can go to jail. But they cannot live on public property or on private property.

The Supreme Court caused this mess. Now they have fixed it.

The problem is not that there aren't enough shelters, generally. Homeless people do not like them, for various reasons. Too bad, my house isn't perfect either, but I don't get to just live somewhere else, on someone else's property or on public property.

Shelter are non existent or full. In a lot of places, NIMBYS fight the creation of shelters.

So you want to put people in jail because they are homeless?

They can be trained, get jobs, earn a living, and rent.

Mentally ill? Longterm hospitalization.

Criminals? Prison.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ok so when there are homeless people and they can't be on public space and there are no homeless shelters, where do you expect "them" to go?

They can go to shelters. Or if they refuse, then they can go to jail. But they cannot live on public property or on private property.

The Supreme Court caused this mess. Now they have fixed it.

The problem is not that there aren't enough shelters, generally. Homeless people do not like them, for various reasons. Too bad, my house isn't perfect either, but I don't get to just live somewhere else, on someone else's property or on public property.

Institutions and treatment centers? I thought all the states that decriminalized drugs claimed they'd be using the tax to fund more treatment

[Anonymous]

I agree that the solution partly lies in changing laws regarding involuntary treatment for the mentally ill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So glad for this ruling as I know live in California. So are the majority of my friends who are liberal Democrats. There are so many drug addict and/or mentally ill vagrants who have come to California and absolutely refuse help. This is the key here. So many aggressive vagrants are refusing help and setting up camp wherever they want.

They are not on the outskirts of cities and towns, they are setting up tents and tarps in parks under playground equipment, beaches, in the doorways of storefronts, and leaving needles and feces all over. So sad that every morning small business owners have to be cleaning up feces from their doorways and in alleys in the back of their buildings.

My teens surf and I worry about them stepping in needles and getting hepatitis from the polluted water because there is so much feces in the water from homeless living in the river bottom.

Every time we go to beach cleanups so many needles are found. My son found a packet of white powdery crystal in a baggie in a tube. The waiver for the beach clean up includes in capital letters the inherent hazard of a beach clean includes getting harmed by needles.

It is so frustrating for school kids who have to walk to school to pass by strung out homeless who block the sidewalk.

Everyone still has compassion for the single mom who is getting evicted, the elderly who are getting priced out, the homeless who actually want help. This ruling helps sweep the vagrants out of parks, sidewalks, beaches, etc.

Have you considered voting Republican for your local representation?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone posting on this thread even actually been homeless for an extended period of time?

NP. I haven’t been homeless but my sister and her daughter were when she escaped an abusive marriage. The SCOTUS are just monsters. If you’re homeless, where are you going to go?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So glad for this ruling as I know live in California. So are the majority of my friends who are liberal Democrats. There are so many drug addict and/or mentally ill vagrants who have come to California and absolutely refuse help. This is the key here. So many aggressive vagrants are refusing help and setting up camp wherever they want.

They are not on the outskirts of cities and towns, they are setting up tents and tarps in parks under playground equipment, beaches, in the doorways of storefronts, and leaving needles and feces all over. So sad that every morning small business owners have to be cleaning up feces from their doorways and in alleys in the back of their buildings.

My teens surf and I worry about them stepping in needles and getting hepatitis from the polluted water because there is so much feces in the water from homeless living in the river bottom.

Every time we go to beach cleanups so many needles are found. My son found a packet of white powdery crystal in a baggie in a tube. The waiver for the beach clean up includes in capital letters the inherent hazard of a beach clean includes getting harmed by needles.

It is so frustrating for school kids who have to walk to school to pass by strung out homeless who block the sidewalk.

Everyone still has compassion for the single mom who is getting evicted, the elderly who are getting priced out, the homeless who actually want help. This ruling helps sweep the vagrants out of parks, sidewalks, beaches, etc.

Have you considered voting Republican for your local representation?

DP. Republicans don’t fix problems; they just make people illegal. They make life harder for everyone. The only people they fight for are rich white people and fetuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So glad for this ruling as I know live in California. So are the majority of my friends who are liberal Democrats. There are so many drug addict and/or mentally ill vagrants who have come to California and absolutely refuse help. This is the key here. So many aggressive vagrants are refusing help and setting up camp wherever they want.

They are not on the outskirts of cities and towns, they are setting up tents and tarps in parks under playground equipment, beaches, in the doorways of storefronts, and leaving needles and feces all over. So sad that every morning small business owners have to be cleaning up feces from their doorways and in alleys in the back of their buildings.

My teens surf and I worry about them stepping in needles and getting hepatitis from the polluted water because there is so much feces in the water from homeless living in the river bottom.

Every time we go to beach cleanups so many needles are found. My son found a packet of white powdery crystal in a baggie in a tube. The waiver for the beach clean up includes in capital letters the inherent hazard of a beach clean includes getting harmed by needles.

It is so frustrating for school kids who have to walk to school to pass by strung out homeless who block the sidewalk.

Everyone still has compassion for the single mom who is getting evicted, the elderly who are getting priced out, the homeless who actually want help. This ruling helps sweep the vagrants out of parks, sidewalks, beaches, etc.

Have you considered voting Republican for your local representation?

DP. Republicans don’t fix problems; they just make people illegal. They make life harder for everyone. The only people they fight for are rich white people and fetuses.

Republican cities aren’t the ones with the tent encampments. No one is “made” illegal. Behaviors are illegal.

[Anonymous]

This decision could threaten the thriving tent camp/stolen bike chop shop industry in my hometown. What will we do without these solid citizens?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone posting on this thread even actually been homeless for an extended period of time?

NP. I haven’t been homeless but my sister and her daughter were when she escaped an abusive marriage. The SCOTUS are just monsters. If you’re homeless, where are you going to go?

A tent encampment was a better option for your sister and niece than a women's shelter? I would have thought the opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are people commenting on this thread from a place of privilege, who have no idea how shelters, urban policy etc work.

So heartless. I hope you NEVER have to experience homelessness.

They think they're insulated from this. It's that old cliche poem over and over again first they came for the homeless, and I did nothing. They forget how the poem ends. We are sleepwalking into something very bad.

The rhetoric against migrants, against trans people, against homeless people is scary. They are slowly criminalizing it all. Meaning they will round up and "detain" them. Forcing them to work for free in the cages and camps you all let them build at the border.

Once they're done with the migrants, trans people, homeless people, who the hell do you think is next?

The 1930's are repeating themselves before our eyes and you morons either can't see it, or you secretly want it.

You need to open your eyes. There’s no infinite source of money. You can’t open the borders to everyone and also house them and also have the money for citizens to have shelters too.

No YOU need to open your eyes. Money isn't real. We have the literal resources to do whatever we need. We do not have the WILL because we allow money, which again is NOT REAL, and the profit motive to justify so much land and literal usable houses to sit empty while desperate people live on the streets.

We have enough of everything we need as a country. We have the housing. We have the land. We have the food.

People go without because we choose to make money more important.

Money isn't real.

Resources are finite and economic incentives matter. You are living in a an imaginary world where competing priorities don’t exist. Yes money is technically “not real”, but there is a finite supply of labor, natural resources and time. Magical beliefs will not help solve problems

Exactly my point. We have what we need to house people. We simply do not have the WILL to house them. Money is more important than people.