I’m not. I still have family and friends in socal. Stanford, Berkeley and ucla are the in state schools Californians aspire too. Davis, uc San Diego, and Santa Barbara are considered better than usc, which is considered Pepperdine with football. USC is where you go cuz you think it’ll help you get a job at your buddy’s dads company. |
You don't know how to read the numbers they are producing. It is not double counting people who apply to mulitple UC schools. You can see each school by itself. Fewer apply to Irvine than UCLA for example....but a person who applies to both is counted as 1 in the overall figure. |
In 2023 - 25 Sidwell students applied to Berkeley and 27 applied to UCLA...... look before you leap. |
I know a Sidwell kid going to UCLA who is definitely not a recruited athlete. So your numbers aren't totally correct. |
Similar story but higher gpa just under 3.9 not accepted to Berkeley, WL at UCLA, accepted UCSD, Deferred then rejected Pomona, accepted Oxy and Santa Clara - attending elsewhere (outside of CA) |
And how many were admitted to each? |
Berkeley lists 0 but we know a student is there - so it's hard to say whether that is a reporting error vs a student getting off WL UCLA lists 3 (and we know of 3 accepted there) |
Did they have any Bs? |
How would I possibly know this? Come on. Note - B's in freshman year don't matter. Also note - there have been big UCLA athletic recruits in recent years. One of the UCLA acceptances had very very high grades. so I'd suspect no B. |
Which is why it is more selective than any other school you named other than Stanford. |
You ask this question like Bs are the only thing that matter. Do these students getting denied have strong ECs, do they have strong essays? One B or a few Bs definitely isn’t a disqualification for UCB. Check their common data set. A majority of students accepted don’t have perfect GPAs. |
I'm not the PP speaking of B's - but to your point on those being denied..... there are definitely Big 3 students with zero B's, that have very high stats, high rigor, solid ECs, and strong essays who are still getting a WLs/rejections from Cal and UCLA. |
I’m still puzzled as to why any Big 3 student would really want to attend Cal and UCLA with their subpar public facilities (especially Cal), impacted classes (both), and high OOS tuition (both). |
For my DC, it was the strong programs in their area of interest. TBH, it was also mystery to me, since they mostly applied to smaller private schools. They did like the weather - but it wasn't just any school in CA. They had zero interest in USC, for example. |
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UCLA and cal are great schools. Most see it as a step above Michigan, uva, and the like. Honestly, they’re probably the two best public universities in the country. And they both have pretty cool campuses. I get it.
Just be aware, if coming from a fancy east coast school there will be some social adaptation required. California is very different. Take the flip flops, but leave the sperry topsiders and vineyard vines polos at home. |