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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I definitely avoid people like you (and others) who chronically complain about DC, yet you’re still here. Do us both a favor and move.

By your logic, a person who complains about any aspect of life in the U.S. should move to another country.

False equivalency.

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How so?

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Anonymous wrote:^ I forgot to add, people like you are insufferable because you’re too much of a coward to move, but you complain incessantly about DC and its residents. PSA: DC isn’t going to change, so suck it up or MOVE! No one is going to listen to you complain about a problem with a simple solution.

Geez - not PP but you are really the one that is the problem here, not the PP. Those of us who aren't interested in this BS do our best to not engage with people like you. And I'm sure you are doing the same.

Yes, I definitely avoid people like you (and others) who chronically complain about DC, yet you’re still here. Do us both a favor and move.

Assumptions - I don't complain about DC. I just don't like people like you.

It’s mutual. I despise people like you.

no surprise there

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Anonymous wrote:UCLA and cal are great schools. Most see it as a step above Michigan, uva, and the like. Honestly, they’re probably the two best public universities in the country. And they both have pretty cool campuses. I get it.

Just be aware, if coming from a fancy east coast school there will be some social adaptation required. California is very different. Take the flip flops, but leave the sperry topsiders and vineyard vines polos at home.

I agree that they’re great schools, I just don’t understand why a Big 3 student would choose a huge, public, cattle-call like environment over a comparable private university. I also don’t think there’s really any appreciable difference between Cal, UCLA, and Michigan. They’re very much peer institutions. It just depends on what you want to study and where you want to live for 4 years.

There was definitely a trend at my daughter’s private this year toward big state schools. Many were tired of the small private environment and looking for something bigger. As a parent, I think the big “cattle call” schools as you called them can provide invaluable real-life experience that some kids who’ve grown up in the private school bubble need.

If my private school child didn’t want to attend a small private college, I would suggest a large private university, not a ginormous state school with impacted majors, or a tiny SLAC. So, I would suggest anything from Ivies to T50 private universities, depending on grades. They will definitely get real-life experiences at larger private universities. No need for big cattle-call State U.

A larger private is still private—if you are trying to get away from the elite part of the private vibe which some are, an Ivy or larger private really doesn’t do the trick.

That’s where you lost me. Why would my child want to get away from anything elite? Elite is the best.
I guess some people don’t mind general population. To each his own…

Not PP - but I think it's not the elite institution they want to escape - but the rich and sometimes entitled classmates. Not every private is elite....but most large private schools (especially outside of elite) are filled with wealthy full pay students.

I don’t get this at all. Isn’t every parent and kid trying for an Ivy or top 20 doing it with dreams of being successful and wealthy? But you have disdain for families that are successful and wealthy? Isn’t that the dream?

Successful is not the same thing as being wealthy if your values go beyond material things. My husband and I are double and triple Ivy grads but we work in the public sector by choice.

We’d love for our kids to have the same caliber of education we received. We got terrific educations at our respective institutions for which we are grateful. The credentials opened up doors and opportunities. I went to school with some amazing minds and, yes, the networks and connections have helped, too.

We don’t necessarily want our children to be wealthy but we do want them to be happy and successful at whatever careers and pursuits they choose. Being a graduate of a top notch school = more choices.

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Anonymous wrote:UCLA and cal are great schools. Most see it as a step above Michigan, uva, and the like. Honestly, they’re probably the two best public universities in the country. And they both have pretty cool campuses. I get it.

Just be aware, if coming from a fancy east coast school there will be some social adaptation required. California is very different. Take the flip flops, but leave the sperry topsiders and vineyard vines polos at home.

I agree that they’re great schools, I just don’t understand why a Big 3 student would choose a huge, public, cattle-call like environment over a comparable private university. I also don’t think there’s really any appreciable difference between Cal, UCLA, and Michigan. They’re very much peer institutions. It just depends on what you want to study and where you want to live for 4 years.

There was definitely a trend at my daughter’s private this year toward big state schools. Many were tired of the small private environment and looking for something bigger. As a parent, I think the big “cattle call” schools as you called them can provide invaluable real-life experience that some kids who’ve grown up in the private school bubble need.

If my private school child didn’t want to attend a small private college, I would suggest a large private university, not a ginormous state school with impacted majors, or a tiny SLAC. So, I would suggest anything from Ivies to T50 private universities, depending on grades. They will definitely get real-life experiences at larger private universities. No need for big cattle-call State U.

A larger private is still private—if you are trying to get away from the elite part of the private vibe which some are, an Ivy or larger private really doesn’t do the trick.

That’s where you lost me. Why would my child want to get away from anything elite? Elite is the best.
I guess some people don’t mind general population. To each his own…

Not PP - but I think it's not the elite institution they want to escape - but the rich and sometimes entitled classmates. Not every private is elite....but most large private schools (especially outside of elite) are filled with wealthy full pay students.

I don’t get this at all. Isn’t every parent and kid trying for an Ivy or top 20 doing it with dreams of being successful and wealthy? But you have disdain for families that are successful and wealthy? Isn’t that the dream?

Successful is not the same thing as being wealthy if your values go beyond material things. My husband and I are double and triple Ivy grads but we work in the public sector by choice.

We’d love for our kids to have the same caliber of education we received. We got terrific educations at our respective institutions for which we are grateful. The credentials opened up doors and opportunities. I went to school with some amazing minds and, yes, the networks and connections have helped, too.

We don’t necessarily want our children to be wealthy but we do want them to be happy and successful at whatever careers and pursuits they choose. Being a graduate of a top notch school = more choices.

Different person here - but you must admit that T20 are not the only top notch school options, right?

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Anonymous wrote:UCLA and cal are great schools. Most see it as a step above Michigan, uva, and the like. Honestly, they’re probably the two best public universities in the country. And they both have pretty cool campuses. I get it.

Just be aware, if coming from a fancy east coast school there will be some social adaptation required. California is very different. Take the flip flops, but leave the sperry topsiders and vineyard vines polos at home.

I agree that they’re great schools, I just don’t understand why a Big 3 student would choose a huge, public, cattle-call like environment over a comparable private university. I also don’t think there’s really any appreciable difference between Cal, UCLA, and Michigan. They’re very much peer institutions. It just depends on what you want to study and where you want to live for 4 years.

There was definitely a trend at my daughter’s private this year toward big state schools. Many were tired of the small private environment and looking for something bigger. As a parent, I think the big “cattle call” schools as you called them can provide invaluable real-life experience that some kids who’ve grown up in the private school bubble need.

If my private school child didn’t want to attend a small private college, I would suggest a large private university, not a ginormous state school with impacted majors, or a tiny SLAC. So, I would suggest anything from Ivies to T50 private universities, depending on grades. They will definitely get real-life experiences at larger private universities. No need for big cattle-call State U.

A larger private is still private—if you are trying to get away from the elite part of the private vibe which some are, an Ivy or larger private really doesn’t do the trick.

That’s where you lost me. Why would my child want to get away from anything elite? Elite is the best.
I guess some people don’t mind general population. To each his own…

Not PP - but I think it's not the elite institution they want to escape - but the rich and sometimes entitled classmates. Not every private is elite....but most large private schools (especially outside of elite) are filled with wealthy full pay students.

I don’t get this at all. Isn’t every parent and kid trying for an Ivy or top 20 doing it with dreams of being successful and wealthy? But you have disdain for families that are successful and wealthy? Isn’t that the dream?

Successful is not the same thing as being wealthy if your values go beyond material things. My husband and I are double and triple Ivy grads but we work in the public sector by choice.

We’d love for our kids to have the same caliber of education we received. We got terrific educations at our respective institutions for which we are grateful. The credentials opened up doors and opportunities. I went to school with some amazing minds and, yes, the networks and connections have helped, too.

We don’t necessarily want our children to be wealthy but we do want them to be happy and successful at whatever careers and pursuits they choose. Being a graduate of a top notch school = more choices.

Different person here - but you must admit that T20 are not the only top notch school options, right?

Yes, of course. The extra dimension is prestige and respect for the credential. I’m sure Williams provides a top notch education as does Duke. They don’t have the same door-opening power as Harvard or Princeton.

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Anonymous wrote:UCLA and cal are great schools. Most see it as a step above Michigan, uva, and the like. Honestly, they’re probably the two best public universities in the country. And they both have pretty cool campuses. I get it.

Just be aware, if coming from a fancy east coast school there will be some social adaptation required. California is very different. Take the flip flops, but leave the sperry topsiders and vineyard vines polos at home.

I agree that they’re great schools, I just don’t understand why a Big 3 student would choose a huge, public, cattle-call like environment over a comparable private university. I also don’t think there’s really any appreciable difference between Cal, UCLA, and Michigan. They’re very much peer institutions. It just depends on what you want to study and where you want to live for 4 years.

There was definitely a trend at my daughter’s private this year toward big state schools. Many were tired of the small private environment and looking for something bigger. As a parent, I think the big “cattle call” schools as you called them can provide invaluable real-life experience that some kids who’ve grown up in the private school bubble need.

If my private school child didn’t want to attend a small private college, I would suggest a large private university, not a ginormous state school with impacted majors, or a tiny SLAC. So, I would suggest anything from Ivies to T50 private universities, depending on grades. They will definitely get real-life experiences at larger private universities. No need for big cattle-call State U.

A larger private is still private—if you are trying to get away from the elite part of the private vibe which some are, an Ivy or larger private really doesn’t do the trick.

That’s where you lost me. Why would my child want to get away from anything elite? Elite is the best.
I guess some people don’t mind general population. To each his own…

Not PP - but I think it's not the elite institution they want to escape - but the rich and sometimes entitled classmates. Not every private is elite....but most large private schools (especially outside of elite) are filled with wealthy full pay students.

I don’t get this at all. Isn’t every parent and kid trying for an Ivy or top 20 doing it with dreams of being successful and wealthy? But you have disdain for families that are successful and wealthy? Isn’t that the dream?

Successful is not the same thing as being wealthy if your values go beyond material things. My husband and I are double and triple Ivy grads but we work in the public sector by choice.

We’d love for our kids to have the same caliber of education we received. We got terrific educations at our respective institutions for which we are grateful. The credentials opened up doors and opportunities. I went to school with some amazing minds and, yes, the networks and connections have helped, too.

We don’t necessarily want our children to be wealthy but we do want them to be happy and successful at whatever careers and pursuits they choose. Being a graduate of a top notch school = more choices.

Different person here - but you must admit that T20 are not the only top notch school options, right?

Yes, of course. The extra dimension is prestige and respect for the credential. I’m sure Williams provides a top notch education as does Duke. They don’t have the same door-opening power as Harvard or Princeton.

Sigh. Well - hope all your double and triple Ivy legacies help your children get into your desired college. (You know they already have those open doors, right?)

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Anonymous wrote:UCLA and cal are great schools. Most see it as a step above Michigan, uva, and the like. Honestly, they’re probably the two best public universities in the country. And they both have pretty cool campuses. I get it.

Just be aware, if coming from a fancy east coast school there will be some social adaptation required. California is very different. Take the flip flops, but leave the sperry topsiders and vineyard vines polos at home.

I agree that they’re great schools, I just don’t understand why a Big 3 student would choose a huge, public, cattle-call like environment over a comparable private university. I also don’t think there’s really any appreciable difference between Cal, UCLA, and Michigan. They’re very much peer institutions. It just depends on what you want to study and where you want to live for 4 years.

There was definitely a trend at my daughter’s private this year toward big state schools. Many were tired of the small private environment and looking for something bigger. As a parent, I think the big “cattle call” schools as you called them can provide invaluable real-life experience that some kids who’ve grown up in the private school bubble need.

If my private school child didn’t want to attend a small private college, I would suggest a large private university, not a ginormous state school with impacted majors, or a tiny SLAC. So, I would suggest anything from Ivies to T50 private universities, depending on grades. They will definitely get real-life experiences at larger private universities. No need for big cattle-call State U.

A larger private is still private—if you are trying to get away from the elite part of the private vibe which some are, an Ivy or larger private really doesn’t do the trick.

That’s where you lost me. Why would my child want to get away from anything elite? Elite is the best.
I guess some people don’t mind general population. To each his own…

Not PP - but I think it's not the elite institution they want to escape - but the rich and sometimes entitled classmates. Not every private is elite....but most large private schools (especially outside of elite) are filled with wealthy full pay students.

I don’t get this at all. Isn’t every parent and kid trying for an Ivy or top 20 doing it with dreams of being successful and wealthy? But you have disdain for families that are successful and wealthy? Isn’t that the dream?

Successful is not the same thing as being wealthy if your values go beyond material things. My husband and I are double and triple Ivy grads but we work in the public sector by choice.

We’d love for our kids to have the same caliber of education we received. We got terrific educations at our respective institutions for which we are grateful. The credentials opened up doors and opportunities. I went to school with some amazing minds and, yes, the networks and connections have helped, too.

We don’t necessarily want our children to be wealthy but we do want them to be happy and successful at whatever careers and pursuits they choose. Being a graduate of a top notch school = more choices.

Different person here - but you must admit that T20 are not the only top notch school options, right?

Yes, of course. The extra dimension is prestige and respect for the credential. I’m sure Williams provides a top notch education as does Duke. They don’t have the same door-opening power as Harvard or Princeton.

I do t think that’s true anymore. The Harvard and Princeton alums I know are done with their schools. They want Naval Academy, Duke and Stanford grads. They don’t want the headaches that come with the kids from those schools.

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Anonymous wrote:UCLA and cal are great schools. Most see it as a step above Michigan, uva, and the like. Honestly, they’re probably the two best public universities in the country. And they both have pretty cool campuses. I get it.

Just be aware, if coming from a fancy east coast school there will be some social adaptation required. California is very different. Take the flip flops, but leave the sperry topsiders and vineyard vines polos at home.

I agree that they’re great schools, I just don’t understand why a Big 3 student would choose a huge, public, cattle-call like environment over a comparable private university. I also don’t think there’s really any appreciable difference between Cal, UCLA, and Michigan. They’re very much peer institutions. It just depends on what you want to study and where you want to live for 4 years.

There was definitely a trend at my daughter’s private this year toward big state schools. Many were tired of the small private environment and looking for something bigger. As a parent, I think the big “cattle call” schools as you called them can provide invaluable real-life experience that some kids who’ve grown up in the private school bubble need.

If my private school child didn’t want to attend a small private college, I would suggest a large private university, not a ginormous state school with impacted majors, or a tiny SLAC. So, I would suggest anything from Ivies to T50 private universities, depending on grades. They will definitely get real-life experiences at larger private universities. No need for big cattle-call State U.

A larger private is still private—if you are trying to get away from the elite part of the private vibe which some are, an Ivy or larger private really doesn’t do the trick.

That’s where you lost me. Why would my child want to get away from anything elite? Elite is the best.
I guess some people don’t mind general population. To each his own…

Not PP - but I think it's not the elite institution they want to escape - but the rich and sometimes entitled classmates. Not every private is elite....but most large private schools (especially outside of elite) are filled with wealthy full pay students.

I don’t get this at all. Isn’t every parent and kid trying for an Ivy or top 20 doing it with dreams of being successful and wealthy? But you have disdain for families that are successful and wealthy? Isn’t that the dream?

Successful is not the same thing as being wealthy if your values go beyond material things. My husband and I are double and triple Ivy grads but we work in the public sector by choice.

We’d love for our kids to have the same caliber of education we received. We got terrific educations at our respective institutions for which we are grateful. The credentials opened up doors and opportunities. I went to school with some amazing minds and, yes, the networks and connections have helped, too.

We don’t necessarily want our children to be wealthy but we do want them to be happy and successful at whatever careers and pursuits they choose. Being a graduate of a top notch school = more choices.

Different person here - but you must admit that T20 are not the only top notch school options, right?

Yes, of course. The extra dimension is prestige and respect for the credential. I’m sure Williams provides a top notch education as does Duke. They don’t have the same door-opening power as Harvard or Princeton.

I do t think that’s true anymore. The Harvard and Princeton alums I know are done with their schools. They want Naval Academy, Duke and Stanford grads. They don’t want the headaches that come with the kids from those schools.

Sure, Jan. 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:UCLA and cal are great schools. Most see it as a step above Michigan, uva, and the like. Honestly, they’re probably the two best public universities in the country. And they both have pretty cool campuses. I get it.

Just be aware, if coming from a fancy east coast school there will be some social adaptation required. California is very different. Take the flip flops, but leave the sperry topsiders and vineyard vines polos at home.

I agree that they’re great schools, I just don’t understand why a Big 3 student would choose a huge, public, cattle-call like environment over a comparable private university. I also don’t think there’s really any appreciable difference between Cal, UCLA, and Michigan. They’re very much peer institutions. It just depends on what you want to study and where you want to live for 4 years.

There was definitely a trend at my daughter’s private this year toward big state schools. Many were tired of the small private environment and looking for something bigger. As a parent, I think the big “cattle call” schools as you called them can provide invaluable real-life experience that some kids who’ve grown up in the private school bubble need.

If my private school child didn’t want to attend a small private college, I would suggest a large private university, not a ginormous state school with impacted majors, or a tiny SLAC. So, I would suggest anything from Ivies to T50 private universities, depending on grades. They will definitely get real-life experiences at larger private universities. No need for big cattle-call State U.

A larger private is still private—if you are trying to get away from the elite part of the private vibe which some are, an Ivy or larger private really doesn’t do the trick.

That’s where you lost me. Why would my child want to get away from anything elite? Elite is the best.
I guess some people don’t mind general population. To each his own…

Not PP - but I think it's not the elite institution they want to escape - but the rich and sometimes entitled classmates. Not every private is elite....but most large private schools (especially outside of elite) are filled with wealthy full pay students.

I don’t get this at all. Isn’t every parent and kid trying for an Ivy or top 20 doing it with dreams of being successful and wealthy? But you have disdain for families that are successful and wealthy? Isn’t that the dream?

Successful is not the same thing as being wealthy if your values go beyond material things. My husband and I are double and triple Ivy grads but we work in the public sector by choice.

We’d love for our kids to have the same caliber of education we received. We got terrific educations at our respective institutions for which we are grateful. The credentials opened up doors and opportunities. I went to school with some amazing minds and, yes, the networks and connections have helped, too.

We don’t necessarily want our children to be wealthy but we do want them to be happy and successful at whatever careers and pursuits they choose. Being a graduate of a top notch school = more choices.

Different person here - but you must admit that T20 are not the only top notch school options, right?

Yes, of course. The extra dimension is prestige and respect for the credential. I’m sure Williams provides a top notch education as does Duke. They don’t have the same door-opening power as Harvard or Princeton.

I do t think that’s true anymore. The Harvard and Princeton alums I know are done with their schools. They want Naval Academy, Duke and Stanford grads. They don’t want the headaches that come with the kids from those schools.

Sure, Jan. 🙄

NP - but I've also heard multiple people tell me they tend to stay away from HYP applicants because they are more trouble than they are worth. High expectations and drive and attitude - overblown (or fragile) egos . I have heard separate people (who don't know each other) describe these grads as needing to be "de-programmed" and the employers can avoid the hassles by just hiring other grads instead.