Why is Biden not addressing Israel or the university protests?

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Pregnant women would like a word. Seriously, Gaza is NOT the issue you think it is.

What do you mean “not the issue [you] think it is”?

It’s the full throated support of the U.S. for the killing of children. Pretend every adult in Gaza is Hamas and you still have the death of more than ten thousand children to account for. This is completely against every single thing Joe Biden said about his foreign policy.

I’m a woman with a daughter, planning an another pregnancy. The Dobbs case is huge for me. But this will apparently be the single time Americans will be able to communicate to Joe Biden that support for Israel will cost a Democrat his job. He can either learn that lesson before the election and pivot— right now— or he can learn it after the election while he watches the Trump victory speech and knows he sacrificed the safety of the women of this country in order to support the killing of children abroad.

Sure. It’s almost as if Trump and the Republicans have been out-performing every election for the past two years. Cast your protest vote and be irrelevant. NGAF.

Thanks for your support. You seem to believe the only way to be “relevant” is to vote for Joe Biden, but he seems entirely disinterested in what his constituency wants on this issue. So I’m comfortable with irrelevance.

If you think Israel/Gaza is the most important issue facing our country right now, you’re either not paying attention, don’t understand politics, or you’ve been persuaded by online trolls to be apathetic. Maybe all three.

Option four: I think the killing of tens of thousands of children with U.S taxpayer dollars is the biggest error of our country right now, and the person in the White House is where the buck stops.

And you think that will stop with Trump? Lololololololol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Pregnant women would like a word. Seriously, Gaza is NOT the issue you think it is.

Do pregnant women in Gaza have worth to you? The dead pregnant women who having post mortem c sections? The pregnant women who are having c sections without anesthesia? The malnourished pregnant women giving birth to 5 lb babies and then not having enough milk or clean water to feed them?

What is happening in Gaza is more important to me personally than abortion rights.

Staying home or voting for Trump isn’t going to help anyone in Gaza.

DP

I think the calculus is more like this: I’m willing to sacrifice short-term discomfort for the long-term gain of suffocating the part of the democratic party that MIGHT be salvageable.

Easy for me to say because I’m not likely to suffer under a second Trump administration, but I also think there is a grave misunderstanding of how badly President Biden has mishandled this situation. He has looked inept and cuckolded by Netanyahu at best, and criminally complicit in genocidal war crimes at worst.

I am Muslim and this is the type of conversation I have been having . We certainly don't think things will be easier for us as Muslim Americans living under a Trump presidency. I have always voted D, but we can't just have have our votes taken for granted.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Pregnant women would like a word. Seriously, Gaza is NOT the issue you think it is.

What do you mean “not the issue [you] think it is”?

It’s the full throated support of the U.S. for the killing of children. Pretend every adult in Gaza is Hamas and you still have the death of more than ten thousand children to account for. This is completely against every single thing Joe Biden said about his foreign policy.

I’m a woman with a daughter, planning an another pregnancy. The Dobbs case is huge for me. But this will apparently be the single time Americans will be able to communicate to Joe Biden that support for Israel will cost a Democrat his job. He can either learn that lesson before the election and pivot— right now— or he can learn it after the election while he watches the Trump victory speech and knows he sacrificed the safety of the women of this country in order to support the killing of children abroad.

Sure. It’s almost as if Trump and the Republicans have been out-performing every election for the past two years. Cast your protest vote and be irrelevant. NGAF.

Thanks for your support. You seem to believe the only way to be “relevant” is to vote for Joe Biden, but he seems entirely disinterested in what his constituency wants on this issue. So I’m comfortable with irrelevance.

If you think Israel/Gaza is the most important issue facing our country right now, you’re either not paying attention, don’t understand politics, or you’ve been persuaded by online trolls to be apathetic. Maybe all three.

Option four: I think the killing of tens of thousands of children with U.S taxpayer dollars is the biggest error of our country right now, and the person in the White House is where the buck stops.

You do you.

[Anonymous]

This thread reminds me to tell everyone I know to watch The Social Dilemma again.

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

And please don’t come crying to us when your candidate sacrificed American women and American democracy to allow Netanyahu to kill more children without consequences. We have been trying to warn you since January, you will have no way to say thug wasn’t a deliberate choice.

Trump isn’t gong to do a thing for Gaza. So you can vote with the millions of other issues facing our country in mind instead of throwing a temper tantrum about the one issue on which you can’t have your way. Be a responsible adult citizen.

I’m being a responsible adult citizen: I’ve written every one of my elected officials to say I will not vote for anyone who isn’t supporting an immediate ceasefire and restrictions on U.S military assistance by November.

You’re right Trump doesn’t are a penny for Gaza. So the Democrats can choose to keep their jobs by doing what their voters are asking, or they can choose to lose in order to send money to support the killing of children. It’s not being a responsible citizen to keep people in power who ignore their voters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Pregnant women would like a word. Seriously, Gaza is NOT the issue you think it is.

What do you mean “not the issue [you] think it is”?

It’s the full throated support of the U.S. for the killing of children. Pretend every adult in Gaza is Hamas and you still have the death of more than ten thousand children to account for. This is completely against every single thing Joe Biden said about his foreign policy.

I’m a woman with a daughter, planning an another pregnancy. The Dobbs case is huge for me. But this will apparently be the single time Americans will be able to communicate to Joe Biden that support for Israel will cost a Democrat his job. He can either learn that lesson before the election and pivot— right now— or he can learn it after the election while he watches the Trump victory speech and knows he sacrificed the safety of the women of this country in order to support the killing of children abroad.

Sure. It’s almost as if Trump and the Republicans have been out-performing every election for the past two years. Cast your protest vote and be irrelevant. NGAF.

Thanks for your support. You seem to believe the only way to be “relevant” is to vote for Joe Biden, but he seems entirely disinterested in what his constituency wants on this issue. So I’m comfortable with irrelevance.

If you think Israel/Gaza is the most important issue facing our country right now, you’re either not paying attention, don’t understand politics, or you’ve been persuaded by online trolls to be apathetic. Maybe all three.

Option four: I think the killing of tens of thousands of children with U.S taxpayer dollars is the biggest error of our country right now, and the person in the White House is where the buck stops.

And you think that will stop with Trump? Lololololololol

I guess the theory being they'll vote for Trump to punish the Democrats for Israel/Gaza so that Democrats change policy going forward. It's beyond hopelessly naive...but what can you do. They're (for now) committed to complete ignorance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

And please don’t come crying to us when your candidate sacrificed American women and American democracy to allow Netanyahu to kill more children without consequences. We have been trying to warn you since January, you will have no way to say thug wasn’t a deliberate choice.

Trump isn’t gong to do a thing for Gaza. So you can vote with the millions of other issues facing our country in mind instead of throwing a temper tantrum about the one issue on which you can’t have your way. Be a responsible adult citizen.

I’m being a responsible adult citizen: I’ve written every one of my elected officials to say I will not vote for anyone who isn’t supporting an immediate ceasefire and restrictions on U.S military assistance by November.

You’re right Trump doesn’t are a penny for Gaza. So the Democrats can choose to keep their jobs by doing what their voters are asking, or they can choose to lose in order to send money to support the killing of children. It’s not being a responsible citizen to keep people in power who ignore their voters.

And Democrat voters are 100% in favor of this? You realize that the world is a much more complex place that your simple-minded take?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Pregnant women would like a word. Seriously, Gaza is NOT the issue you think it is.

What do you mean “not the issue [you] think it is”?

It’s the full throated support of the U.S. for the killing of children. Pretend every adult in Gaza is Hamas and you still have the death of more than ten thousand children to account for. This is completely against every single thing Joe Biden said about his foreign policy.

I’m a woman with a daughter, planning an another pregnancy. The Dobbs case is huge for me. But this will apparently be the single time Americans will be able to communicate to Joe Biden that support for Israel will cost a Democrat his job. He can either learn that lesson before the election and pivot— right now— or he can learn it after the election while he watches the Trump victory speech and knows he sacrificed the safety of the women of this country in order to support the killing of children abroad.

Sure. It’s almost as if Trump and the Republicans have been out-performing every election for the past two years. Cast your protest vote and be irrelevant. NGAF.

Thanks for your support. You seem to believe the only way to be “relevant” is to vote for Joe Biden, but he seems entirely disinterested in what his constituency wants on this issue. So I’m comfortable with irrelevance.

If you think Israel/Gaza is the most important issue facing our country right now, you’re either not paying attention, don’t understand politics, or you’ve been persuaded by online trolls to be apathetic. Maybe all three.

Option four: I think the killing of tens of thousands of children with U.S taxpayer dollars is the biggest error of our country right now, and the person in the White House is where the buck stops.

And you think that will stop with Trump? Lololololololol

I think if the Democrats lose in 2024 over Gaza, a 2028 candidate will not support the killing of civilians. Otherwise we’re complicit not just in this horror but the next one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

And please don’t come crying to us when your candidate sacrificed American women and American democracy to allow Netanyahu to kill more children without consequences. We have been trying to warn you since January, you will have no way to say thug wasn’t a deliberate choice.

Trump isn’t gong to do a thing for Gaza. So you can vote with the millions of other issues facing our country in mind instead of throwing a temper tantrum about the one issue on which you can’t have your way. Be a responsible adult citizen.

I’m being a responsible adult citizen: I’ve written every one of my elected officials to say I will not vote for anyone who isn’t supporting an immediate ceasefire and restrictions on U.S military assistance by November.

You’re right Trump doesn’t are a penny for Gaza. So the Democrats can choose to keep their jobs by doing what their voters are asking, or they can choose to lose in order to send money to support the killing of children. It’s not being a responsible citizen to keep people in power who ignore their voters.

Democracy requires compromise and no one person gets everything they want. You choose to be a one issue voter on a matter that neither of the nominees will support but you are ignoring the other MAJOR differences in the two candidates that will severely impact the future of our country for generations. Not mature thinking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Pregnant women would like a word. Seriously, Gaza is NOT the issue you think it is.

What do you mean “not the issue [you] think it is”?

It’s the full throated support of the U.S. for the killing of children. Pretend every adult in Gaza is Hamas and you still have the death of more than ten thousand children to account for. This is completely against every single thing Joe Biden said about his foreign policy.

I’m a woman with a daughter, planning an another pregnancy. The Dobbs case is huge for me. But this will apparently be the single time Americans will be able to communicate to Joe Biden that support for Israel will cost a Democrat his job. He can either learn that lesson before the election and pivot— right now— or he can learn it after the election while he watches the Trump victory speech and knows he sacrificed the safety of the women of this country in order to support the killing of children abroad.

Sure. It’s almost as if Trump and the Republicans have been out-performing every election for the past two years. Cast your protest vote and be irrelevant. NGAF.

Thanks for your support. You seem to believe the only way to be “relevant” is to vote for Joe Biden, but he seems entirely disinterested in what his constituency wants on this issue. So I’m comfortable with irrelevance.

If you think Israel/Gaza is the most important issue facing our country right now, you’re either not paying attention, don’t understand politics, or you’ve been persuaded by online trolls to be apathetic. Maybe all three.

Option four: I think the killing of tens of thousands of children with U.S taxpayer dollars is the biggest error of our country right now, and the person in the White House is where the buck stops.

And you think that will stop with Trump? Lololololololol

I think if the Democrats lose in 2024 over Gaza, a 2028 candidate will not support the killing of civilians. Otherwise we’re complicit not just in this horror but the next one.

You’re either pretending to be a democrat or you’re ignorant of history and politics. If Trump wins, there won’t be a 2028 democrat candidate to vote for. It will be a North Korea or Russian kind of election.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

Who do you think will be learning the lesson here?

If Biden loses, other than removing him from office, what benefit is there to Palestinian supporters? What do you believe Trump, in conjunction with the Republicans on Congress will do differently?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

And please don’t come crying to us when your candidate sacrificed American women and American democracy to allow Netanyahu to kill more children without consequences. We have been trying to warn you since January, you will have no way to say thug wasn’t a deliberate choice.

Trump isn’t gong to do a thing for Gaza. So you can vote with the millions of other issues facing our country in mind instead of throwing a temper tantrum about the one issue on which you can’t have your way. Be a responsible adult citizen.

I’m being a responsible adult citizen: I’ve written every one of my elected officials to say I will not vote for anyone who isn’t supporting an immediate ceasefire and restrictions on U.S military assistance by November.

You’re right Trump doesn’t are a penny for Gaza. So the Democrats can choose to keep their jobs by doing what their voters are asking, or they can choose to lose in order to send money to support the killing of children. It’s not being a responsible citizen to keep people in power who ignore their voters.

Democracy requires compromise and no one person gets everything they want. You choose to be a one issue voter on a matter that neither of the nominees will support but you are ignoring the other MAJOR differences in the two candidates that will severely impact the future of our country for generations. Not mature thinking.

My support for Biden was a compromise in 2020, he is significantly right of me and I supported Warren. He has never once delivered “everything” I want or even close to it.

Now he has gone past what I can support ethically. He has gone past what many can stomach, from a humanist view. He needs to either correct course or try to court the voters who are ok with the mass killing of children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

Who do you think will be learning the lesson here?

If Biden loses, other than removing him from office, what benefit is there to Palestinian supporters? What do you believe Trump, in conjunction with the Republicans on Congress will do differently?

It’s not clear, but I think you’re adding on to my comment rather than asking me these questions because I agree with you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Don’t come crying to the rest of us when you realize you sat on your hands when the threat of authoritarianism loomed over America. There’s no such thing as a protest vote.

Who do you think will be learning the lesson here?

If Biden loses, other than removing him from office, what benefit is there to Palestinian supporters? What do you believe Trump, in conjunction with the Republicans on Congress will do differently?

DP, but it seems clear to me that this is a medium/long-term play to bend the Democratic leadership to follow where the youth are leading it. Its a calculated risk to have four years of Trump to get a "better" candidate in 28+. Its about the only move one can make to break the Israeli control of American politics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is done. I hate Trump but I am sitting this election out, I cannot vote for Biden. There are many more like me in the suburbs.

Pregnant women would like a word. Seriously, Gaza is NOT the issue you think it is.

What do you mean “not the issue [you] think it is”?

It’s the full throated support of the U.S. for the killing of children. Pretend every adult in Gaza is Hamas and you still have the death of more than ten thousand children to account for. This is completely against every single thing Joe Biden said about his foreign policy.

I’m a woman with a daughter, planning an another pregnancy. The Dobbs case is huge for me. But this will apparently be the single time Americans will be able to communicate to Joe Biden that support for Israel will cost a Democrat his job. He can either learn that lesson before the election and pivot— right now— or he can learn it after the election while he watches the Trump victory speech and knows he sacrificed the safety of the women of this country in order to support the killing of children abroad.

Sure. It’s almost as if Trump and the Republicans have been out-performing every election for the past two years. Cast your protest vote and be irrelevant. NGAF.

Thanks for your support. You seem to believe the only way to be “relevant” is to vote for Joe Biden, but he seems entirely disinterested in what his constituency wants on this issue. So I’m comfortable with irrelevance.

If you think Israel/Gaza is the most important issue facing our country right now, you’re either not paying attention, don’t understand politics, or you’ve been persuaded by online trolls to be apathetic. Maybe all three.

Option four: I think the killing of tens of thousands of children with U.S taxpayer dollars is the biggest error of our country right now, and the person in the White House is where the buck stops.

And you think that will stop with Trump? Lololololololol

I think if the Democrats lose in 2024 over Gaza, a 2028 candidate will not support the killing of civilians. Otherwise we’re complicit not just in this horror but the next one.

You’re either pretending to be a democrat or you’re ignorant of history and politics. If Trump wins, there won’t be a 2028 democrat candidate to vote for. It will be a North Korea or Russian kind of election.

That’s what they said in 2016 and yet democracy endures. I believe we can survive Trump for four more years if we must. I hope Biden won’t force us into that reality