Bethesda Row after the Purple Line Opens?

[Anonymous]

If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you wanted access to jobs, they should have extended the Purple Line to Tysons. That would save people a lot more time, curb emissions from cars jammed on the Beltway etc.

Let's get the New Carrollton - Bethesda section built and operating first.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It would be fine if we had enough cops, but we don't. They drive out of their police station on St Elmo and speed down Old Georgetown Road to patrol wherever. Very few walking around. Try calling with any issue other than major crimes--you are ignored.

Wait, I thought Old Georgetown Road was filled with cars day and night because of the bike lanes? So you are telling me that is a lie too?

DP. Unfortunately there are no bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road in downtown Bethesda. I wish the bike lanes did go all the way to downtown Bethesda, so I wouldn't have to ride on the sidewalk between downtown Bethesda and Cedar Lane. Or in the road, but I only do that when I happen to be going somewhere with other people on bikes, and that inconveniences drivers even more.

There is a bike path from NIH to downtown Bethesda— it starts maybe a block from Cedar Lane

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.

Move to Great Falls, Falls Church, Rockville or Gaithersburg. You could also rent in Georgetown or Foxhall

I agree with OP - look at Pentagon City Mall. It used to be nice but it's kind of a mess now.

That metro has been there for DECADES. That mall's issue has and always will be the layout that forces you to hit anchors or the now two centrally located elevators to move around. It's time consuming and inconvenient.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It would be fine if we had enough cops, but we don't. They drive out of their police station on St Elmo and speed down Old Georgetown Road to patrol wherever. Very few walking around. Try calling with any issue other than major crimes--you are ignored.

Wait, I thought Old Georgetown Road was filled with cars day and night because of the bike lanes? So you are telling me that is a lie too?

DP. Unfortunately there are no bike lanes on Old Georgetown Road in downtown Bethesda. I wish the bike lanes did go all the way to downtown Bethesda, so I wouldn't have to ride on the sidewalk between downtown Bethesda and Cedar Lane. Or in the road, but I only do that when I happen to be going somewhere with other people on bikes, and that inconveniences drivers even more.

There is a bike path from NIH to downtown Bethesda— it starts maybe a block from Cedar Lane

No, there isn't. That's the Bethesda Trolley Trail. Calling that a bike path is like calling the sidewalk a bike path.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.

Let's put this in some context, shall we?

The Americas were first settled by the peoples we now as "Native Americans" who migrated, most likely, across the Bering Straits from the Asian landmass. Europeans starting arriving on the continent from the late 15th century, wiping out and displacing Native Americans en masse.

Some time thereafter, landowners in the southern United States realized that they could make a lot of money for themselves by importing slaves and putting them to work harvesting cotton and other crops. About a hundred and sixty odd years ago and for reasons that are still debated, the northern United States went to war with the southern United States, with the victory of the former bringing an end to mass slavery.

To escape widespread discrimination and drawn by economic opportunities created by the Industrial Revolution, millions of freed slaves and their dependents migrated from the southern United States to the cities of northern United States. Millions of Europeans also migrated to these cities for similar reasons.

The advent of the streetcar, trolleys, and later automobiles allowed many white families - who generally earned better incomes than blacks and were not subject to discriminatory lending practices such as redlining - to flee the urban core to the emerging suburbs. Around the middle of the century, the popularity of the automobile meant that forms of public transportation between the urban core and the suburbs were no longer profitable, resulting in the dismantling of streetcar and trolley systems.

Beginning in around the 1970s, de-industrialization and various other factors led to the decay of many urban centers, impoverishing many black families who lacked the ability to move. Beginning in around the 1990s, however, reforms dismantled discriminatory lending and enabled the migration of many black families from the urban core to the suburbs. With the growth of the service sector, businesses and employment also shifted somewhat from the urban core to the suburbs.

To relieve increasing congestion on suburban streets, tackle climate change, but also to allow relatively poor families living in the suburbs to reach jobs located in other suburbs, jurisdictions such as Montgomery County, Maryland developed public transportation systems to connect different suburbs. These systems were opposed, however, by people like the OP who apparently abhor any public program that could possibly do anything to chip away at hundreds of years of rampant economic inequality in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op should just say they’re racist instead of all this fake concern. There’s nothing stopping the “wrong people” from taking the red line up to Bethesda Row already.

The purple line will let people go from Bethesda to silver spring very quickly and painlessly. Id love to go meet my friends at Denizens and not have to drive back

I am not PP but I guess I am racist if I don't want crime. It's not rocket science to see who is doing the looting and carjackings? Funny, I've never seen a 15yr old in a Landon hoodie rob Nike.

Say what you want but there are not many looters/carjackers with Bethesda addresses. They come from other areas and come via public transit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It will have people congestion but with, per capital, fewer cars. Business there will thrive and there will be plenty of "eyes on the street"

OPs concerns are totally unfounded and bordering on racist.

DP.

Wrong. Her concerns are well-founded.

I worked at a retail complex (a mall) in Baltimore county both before the Baltimore subway opened, and after.

Crime skyrocketed when the subway reached the mall.

It eventually closed because crime made it unprofitable and was later demolished.

But Bethesda Row already has a lot of public transportation, Metro and buses. And see Georgetown, there is no metro and certainly not shortage of crime

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.

Can you explain how you think the Purple Line will be different from the transit line that already stops in Bethesda, the Red Line, or from the bus lines that already go there?

Allow me: the purple line stop is much closer to SFHs and Bethesda Row than the Red Line

Hop on, hop off crimes of opportunity

— lives near Tenley metro and Fh metro in multimillion $ home

I also live near those Metro stops and am not concerned about the Purple Line in Bethesda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the "karens" on this thread understand that someone who has just committed a crime is not going to then head to a train and wait for it, and then get on it as their "getaway?"

This happens all of the time right now all over the DMV and the kids just get on the train, or even the bus.

Are you sure about who the Karens are in these posts? How about if you don’t live in Bethesda you mind your own business, Karen/Ken?

[Anonymous]

Where do you think the people that work in all those stores live?

[Anonymous]

At the current rate of work, this is a problem for our children or grandchildren. We will all be long gone by the time anyone actually rides on a PL train.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At the current rate of work, this is a problem for our children or grandchildren. We will all be long gone by the time anyone actually rides on a PL train.

I plan to still be alive in 2027. Or even in 2030.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.

I wish TV Nation was still around to show up such cretinous snobbery:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.

Log off. There are plenty of non wealthy residents in Bethesda who need public transport. Also, aren’t we moving towards more sustainable modes of transportation?!

Are there a lot of residents of Bethesda that are dying for public transport? Where are they going?

The staff who serve your coffee want to get to work more easily. Is that such a bad idea? They're coming from the East. They just want to clean your stores and serve your McDonald's. Cut them some slack.